History of Therapy & Gun Ownership in Hawaii (Read 4615 times)

BigWave2001

History of Therapy & Gun Ownership in Hawaii
« on: March 31, 2020, 09:49:29 AM »
I’ve gone to therapy for OCD several times in the past few years.  Does anyone know if this will prevent me from obtaining a permit to acquire? 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: History of Therapy & Gun Ownership in Hawaii
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2020, 11:54:55 AM »
I’ve gone to therapy for OCD several times in the past few years.  Does anyone know if this will prevent me from obtaining a permit to acquire?

If there's a record of mental health or "behavioral services" visits in your medical info, then you'll likely be rejected until you bring in a letter from your/another doctor saying you are no longer experiencing the problems being treated and can own a gun.

You can either apply first and see if they deny you, or you can go ahead and get the letter and submit it with the application. 

My suggestion would be "don't volunteer any information".  Wait until they deny you -- IF they deny you.  if they approve you, then this is a non-issue.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

rklapp

Re: History of Therapy & Gun Ownership in Hawaii
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2020, 11:55:55 AM »
Or tell them you don't have a doctor, right?
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: History of Therapy & Gun Ownership in Hawaii
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2020, 11:56:51 AM »
Or tell them you don't have a doctor, right?

Only if that's the truth.

Lying on the application is not recommended.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: History of Therapy & Gun Ownership in Hawaii
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2020, 12:47:56 PM »
Only if that's the truth.

Lying on the application is not recommended.

no one here does anything illegal...

changemyoil66

Re: History of Therapy & Gun Ownership in Hawaii
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2020, 01:02:40 PM »
no one here does anything illegal...

I do not own any firearms, ammo, reloading equipment, body armor, comms, preps, TP

groveler

Re: History of Therapy & Gun Ownership in Hawaii
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2020, 04:34:13 PM »
I do not own any firearms, ammo, reloading equipment, body armor, comms, preps, TP

I lost all mine in a boating accident, in Idaho years ago.  Snake river.

groveler

Re: History of Therapy & Gun Ownership in Hawaii
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2020, 04:37:59 PM »
no one here does anything illegal...
Absolutely NOT!
We obey the King, and
practice Aloha.

RSN172

Re: History of Therapy & Gun Ownership in Hawaii
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2020, 05:10:25 PM »
no one here does anything illegal...
Wat if you lost your mind and dunno whea you stay?
Happily living in Puna

stangzilla

Re: History of Therapy & Gun Ownership in Hawaii
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2020, 08:49:54 AM »
up to HPD if they will red flag you or not.  and up to your doctor if he/she will disclose that or not.
if you have Kaiser, a doctor wont even look at the HPD letter.  it just goes to a clerk in records who sees if you went to behavioral health.  if so, they send your visit notes to HPD.  then up to HPD if they will red flag you or not.  so its not even a doctors decision, its HPD's
then if red flagged, you need to get clearance from a doctor

RSN172

Re: History of Therapy & Gun Ownership in Hawaii
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2020, 09:02:20 AM »
if red flagged, you need to get clearance from a doctor

Go see Dr Josh Green...he likes to help. LOL
Seriously, talk to our resident doc, tillamook if he can help.  He is on the BI though, another reason good to move over here.
Happily living in Puna

tillamook

Re: History of Therapy & Gun Ownership in Hawaii
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2020, 09:14:28 AM »
OCD would absolutely not disqualify someone but that all depends on finding a physician to agree to writing the letter.  (excuse the joke) but you probably do a better job taking care of your firearms with OCD.  :shaka:

Because of COVID we are doing mostly telemedicine visits now.  So I will consider doing these clearance visits remotely now over video (we're set up with facetime and several other video formats to connect with us).  I'll just need to get clearance from my employer and find out what they will charge. 

If you are told you need a clearance letter let me know and we can see if we can set up a telemedicine visit remotely. 


Flapp_Jackson

Re: History of Therapy & Gun Ownership in Hawaii
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2020, 11:05:58 AM »
up to HPD if they will red flag you or not.  and up to your doctor if he/she will disclose that or not.
if you have Kaiser, a doctor wont even look at the HPD letter.  it just goes to a clerk in records who sees if you went to behavioral health.  if so, they send your visit notes to HPD.  then up to HPD if they will red flag you or not.  so its not even a doctors decision, its HPD's
then if red flagged, you need to get clearance from a doctor

Someone posted on here that the Kaiser process is SUPPOSED to be: a clerk reviews your record, and flags it if you had any contact with behavioral services; then, a doctor is SUPPOSED to review those records to see if you should be allowed to own firearms.  If the doctor thinks your case doesn't warrant a denial, then they don't respond to HPD.  They have no duty to reply, and HPD has to take that as a favorable response -- no news is good news. 

Some have had Kaiser send the response to HPD BEFORE a doctor's review, which then gets the applicant an automatic denial pending a doctor's letter that he/she is okay to own guns.  Even if it was Kaiser's mistake that caused you to be denied, their policy is to not issue the needed letters to patients ... period.

That was my understanding anyway.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

BigWave2001

Re: History of Therapy & Gun Ownership in Hawaii
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2020, 11:29:46 AM »
Thanks so much for all of the information everyone!  I currently have VA medical so thankfully I won't have to deal with the Kaiser process, I guess I'll have to apply for my permit and see what happens.  Thanks for the heads-up tillamook!

Rkm623

Re: History of Therapy & Gun Ownership in Hawaii
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2020, 05:03:56 AM »
Hi I have applied for my permit and was told I need a doctors notice. Anyone know a doctor on Oahu I can visit to get my medical sign off? Have to get signature by dec 15! Thanks and aloha🙏🏽
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