Private outdoor shooting range (Read 17332 times)

Brystont1

Private outdoor shooting range
« on: April 02, 2020, 01:14:56 PM »
Is there a reason why no one has opened a private outdoor shooting range on Oahu? No space? Too expensive? Too much complainers

I would think an outdoor range on the west side would be a pretty good idea.

mangosteenqueen

Re: Private outdoor shooting range
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2020, 01:46:33 PM »
Not Oahu but the Big Island used to have a indoor range in Hilo. Never went there but I was glad there was a venue in town. Unfortunately they closed down, I think it was for family health reasons so they tried to sell all their assets or change ownership but no one was willing to take up the deal so we don’t have a indoor range in town without having to drive out 16mi up the mountain to the 100yd public range.

I’d imagine noise would be a issue especially for a island with a large population, cost to get a permit and such, cost of land, and liability. 

RSN172

Re: Private outdoor shooting range
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2020, 04:07:45 PM »
I have my own range on my property on the BI.  15 and 50 yds.  No close neighbors and I hear gun shots all the time around me.  The closest neighbor on my South side, about 300 yards away, told my wife don't worry when you hear gunshots from his direction.  He is just doing target practice.  She told him my husband does the same.  I live in what even some BI people said is the boonies, but I love it here.
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zippz

Re: Private outdoor shooting range
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2020, 05:15:53 PM »
Difficult to open a commercial or a private range open to the public unless you can find the perfect spot in a remote area.  Doable for your own private range.

Besides what you mentioned, noise complaints, zoning, large downrange impact area, environmental impact, costly lead removal, etc.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Private outdoor shooting range
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2020, 05:24:45 PM »
Difficult to open a commercial or a private range open to the public unless you can find the perfect spot in a remote area.  Doable for your own private range.

Besides what you mentioned, noise complaints, zoning, large downrange impact area, environmental impact, costly lead removal, etc.

Don't forget all the "campaign contributions" to the city council, zoning commission, building permit office, inspectors, EPA, neighborhood boards and #distressed Hawaiian protesters/protectors.
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Jmoto808

Re: Private outdoor shooting range
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2020, 10:28:24 PM »
I always wished / hoped maybe we would have someone who had hookups within the "ranch" community and could setup simple prs or 22elr shooting. Would have a small fee to enter as to compensate for the owners time and land. Obviously the hardest part is having the trust to allow people to do that, one neglitent discharge in the wrong area and the whole thing will turn to shit. But the reward would be great as it would be the only way to have a community of shooters who can come together and learn from one another. Plus it would be in a non-club setting that isnt limited to dod, military, etc.

spicynoodle_1

Re: Private outdoor shooting range
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2020, 11:45:44 PM »
There was a private shooting range at Tradewinds Ranch. We went a couple of times. Short range about 40yds. It was a lot of fun, they had tons of steel targets. We shot pistols and rifles. Everyone brought their own firearms and ammo and we had a blast! Literally! Then towards the end we shot clays. Dont know if they still got it. Yelp says they closed down...

eyeeatingfish

Re: Private outdoor shooting range
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2020, 09:59:59 PM »
Is there a reason why no one has opened a private outdoor shooting range on Oahu? No space? Too expensive? Too much complainers

I would think an outdoor range on the west side would be a pretty good idea.

There are private outdoor ranges on Oahu but they are either invite only or ranges specifically for classes.

Waverider82

Re: Private outdoor shooting range
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2023, 06:36:39 PM »
There was a private shooting range at Tradewinds Ranch. We went a couple of times. Short range about 40yds. It was a lot of fun, they had tons of steel targets. We shot pistols and rifles. Everyone brought their own firearms and ammo and we had a blast! Literally! Then towards the end we shot clays. Dont know if they still got it. Yelp says they closed down...

Sorry for the necro, but this is even more relevant now that Kokohead and Puuloa range are closed.  Tradewinds is open and has been holding CCW quals. There's another one at Waianae, but I don't think I'm privy to share the exact place for that one.

Are there any other private ranges on Oahu who are open to accommodate CCW quals or just to plink? The indoor ranges nearby are either too expensive or too far.

Teichi

Re: Private outdoor shooting range
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2023, 07:08:55 PM »
Sorry for the necro, but this is even more relevant now that Kokohead and Puuloa range are closed.  Tradewinds is open and has been holding CCW quals. There's another one at Waianae, but I don't think I'm privy to share the exact place for that one.

Are there any other private ranges on Oahu who are open to accommodate CCW quals or just to plink? The indoor ranges nearby are either too expensive or too far.
Pu'uloa is not closed. It is just closed to the public. There are a lot of hoops to jump through to shoot there.

Waverider82

Re: Private outdoor shooting range
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2023, 07:58:43 PM »
Pu'uloa is not closed. It is just closed to the public. There are a lot of hoops to jump through to shoot there.

Alright, let me be more clear: are they any places open to the public, who can't be bothered to jump any more hoops other than permission from the range owner?

zippz

Re: Private outdoor shooting range
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2023, 10:19:41 PM »
A proper outdoor range is costly and there are many restrictions.  Can't be near housing due to noise.  Need a safe downrange using. A mountain as a backstop or a mile of unpopulated land downrange.  Lead cleanup.  Zoning laws makes large plot of commercial land expensive, or doing commercial activities on AG land has limits.  Most of all, liability makes it a no go for many large landowners.

zippz

Re: Private outdoor shooting range
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2023, 10:26:58 PM »
Alright, let me be more clear: are they any places open to the public, who can't be bothered to jump any more hoops other than permission from the range owner?

I don't see that happening on Oahu, a range open to anyone.  For all the reasons I stated above.   

To get access to the private ranges you have to build the relationships and make friends.  Join shooting clubs and meet people.  Volunteer.  Take classes at those ranges.   Show you can shoot safely.
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Rhed

Re: Private outdoor shooting range
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2023, 10:53:58 PM »
Pu'uloa is not closed. It is just closed to the public. There are a lot of hoops to jump through to shoot there.

DOD can or no?

Teichi

Re: Private outdoor shooting range
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2023, 11:32:03 PM »
DOD can or no?
Can if you have good karma.

groveler

Re: Private outdoor shooting range
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2023, 11:40:29 PM »
A proper outdoor range is costly and there are many restrictions.  Can't be near housing due to noise.  Need a safe downrange using. A mountain as a backstop or a mile of unpopulated land downrange.  Lead cleanup.  Zoning laws makes large plot of commercial land expensive, or doing commercial activities on AG land has limits.  Most of all, liability makes it a no go for many large landowners.
Lots of private ranges on the BI.
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aletheuo137

Re: Private outdoor shooting range
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2023, 06:37:30 AM »
Alright, let me be more clear: are they any places open to the public, who can't be bothered to jump any more hoops other than permission from the range owner?
Short answer, No!

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randay

Re: Private outdoor shooting range
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2023, 06:41:22 AM »
get a boat

drck1000

Re: Private outdoor shooting range
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2023, 07:16:56 AM »
There used to be quite a few opportunities to shoot on private property on Oahu, but less and less over the past 2-3 months or so "thanks" to the selfish acts of a few. . .

I wouldn't call Tradewinds Ranch "open".  If you know the owner of the property (who is a really cool guy and staunch 2a supporter), you may be able to get time slots to shoot there.  Last I recall, the situations with neighboring properties got tighter, so who knows how that will affect availability.   
« Last Edit: January 30, 2023, 08:44:12 AM by drck1000 »

macsak

Re: Private outdoor shooting range
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2023, 11:20:17 AM »
heads

There used to be quite a few opportunities to shoot on private property on Oahu, but less and less over the past 2-3 months or so "thanks" to the selfish acts of a few. . .

I wouldn't call Tradewinds Ranch "open".  If you know the owner of the property (who is a really cool guy and staunch 2a supporter), you may be able to get time slots to shoot there.  Last I recall, the situations with neighboring properties got tighter, so who knows how that will affect availability.