And did they (our leaders) even try to explore the idea of public assistance in running KHSC?  I'm pretty sure there are tons of 2a members willing to volunteer to maintain and help run the ranges to help keep costs down.  Yes, there are liability concerns but there are such things as waivers the volunteers can sign.

Just floating an idea. What about a small fee to use the range($5), but the fee waived for people who are registered volunteers. Then if someone was interested in volunteering, they would take a class on proper safety and operation of the range, have a little time with a someone trained, and have their info on a list. That way they could volunteer when they want, or be contacted when people might be needed. I would think you would get enough people volunteering that you would have a full educated staff. I mean you could volunteer for half a day, and shoot the other half, you're already there. Also the range could bring in money for maintenance, remediation, and even improvements.

Just floating an idea. What about a small fee to use the range($5), but the fee waived for people who are registered volunteers. Then if someone was interested in volunteering, they would take a class on proper safety and operation of the range, have a little time with a someone trained, and have their info on a list. That way they could volunteer when they want, or be contacted when people might be needed. I would think you would get enough people volunteering that you would have a full educated staff. I mean you could volunteer for half a day, and shoot the other half, you're already there. Also the range could bring in money for maintenance, remediation, and even improvements.

Just floating an idea. What about a small fee to use the range($5), but the fee waived for people who are registered volunteers. Then if someone was interested in volunteering, they would take a class on proper safety and operation of the range, have a little time with a someone trained, and have their info on a list. That way they could volunteer when they want, or be contacted when people might be needed. I would think you would get enough people volunteering that you would have a full educated staff. I mean you could volunteer for half a day, and shoot the other half, you're already there. Also the range could bring in money for maintenance, remediation, and even improvements.

Attached are the two Council Bills that are going to be discussed.  Also the comment of a retired Judge, Gun enthusiast, and 2A supporter, Judge Choy...

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These two bills benefit the Kokohead shooters. It addresses the $15 per hour event fee now being imposed on all organizations.One bill says the fee only applies if the event is not being held during normal park hours. The second bill exempts 501(c)(3) non-profit organizations from the $15 per hour fee.

It appears parks dir. Cabato's impostion of the $15 hourly fee has stirred up a hornets nest of protest. Considering the many organizations that use the City's 288 parks island wide. The senior citizen and youth sports groups must be up in arms.

The firearms community should support this. We should all send emails to all of the city council members supporting these two bills and objecting to all fees.

And keep in mind the proposed $7 per hour individual user fee for Kokohead is in the works as well.

As a shooter at the Kokohead Shooting complex I am sure you are aware that a number of proposals are in the works.

$3 to $7 per hour individual user fee at the Kokohead range
Current $15 per hour organization event fee at all parks (all matches and club events)
City bill 1-2012 seeking to exempt non-profit 501(c)(3) organizations for the $15  per hour fee
City bill 60-2011 seeks to have the $15 per hour organization fee apply only to events that do not take place during normal park hours.

Numbered items 1 and 2 are detrimental to Kokohead shooters and should be opposed.

The notion that range user fees will be used to improve the range is naive. Doubtful the city will dedicate/ear mark these funds or place them in a trust fund. And even if they did they could sweep the monies into the general fund during a budget crisis. This has historically happen. On the state level the ear marked Hurricane fund was swept into the general fund to balance the budget.

Each of us pay property tax even when you are renting. Portions of this tax is suppose to go to Kokohead. If we start paying a fee,  that part of our property tax will go to the other parks. Essentially Kokohead shooters  will be singled out to pay for their own range while all the other park users will not. If the city wants to have all park users help, this individual fee proposal should apply to all parks including Waikiki, Ala Moana beach parks and all of the other 288 park facility island wide. Kokohead should not be one of the few parks subject to fees. (Hanauma Bay and Foster Botanical Garden are two City sites with a fee)

Gun guys should not be the city parks dept. ATM when ever they need more funding.

Below is the contact info for city council members. You can email your opposition to all Kokohead fees. Email council member in your district and cc all the others. In the subject write  "Opposing parks and shooting range fees".

Even if some council members maybe anti-gun a lot of opposing emails will give them second thoughts and could have them back off. Email email. Numbers count.
 Darryl

$5 won't do much, would have to be like $10-$15 to make it worth while to get anything done.  Get more steel targets at the range, have target frames available, fix everything.  Fix the roads and parking.  People would pay


Ukumehame is club run ranges by mostly volunteers.  It's hard to find volunteers like that for general range use.  SRGC had trouble getting volunteers to run their ranges or do duty's in the past.  Nowlt sure how it is now.

I’d support a $10-$15 range fee or yearly pass.  Money collected should go directly to the range for maintenance.  As a range user it makes sense that shooters pay something for the upkeep.  I go fishing as a hobby but still need to pay ramp fees for launching my boat and I also pay for commercial bottom fishing license just to catch onaga and opakapaka.  I hope my $$$ help with harbor maintenance and I support similar fees for kokohead..

https://www.kitv.com/news/local/illegal-gun-range-in-waianae-highlights-lack-of-shooting-ranges-on-oahu/article_81db7118-a9a3-11ed-8312-232b3d9e642b.html

https://www.kitv.com/news/local/illegal-gun-range-in-waianae-highlights-lack-of-shooting-ranges-on-oahu/article_81db7118-a9a3-11ed-8312-232b3d9e642b.html

Violated the #1 rule of gun ranges...Don't piss off the neighbors.

Violated the #1 rule of gun ranges...Don't piss off the neighbors.

Oahu has a lot of cry babies, especially in areas like Crylua and Hawaii-Cry.

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Absolutely correct. Hawaii is a small place. You have to be diplomatic.

Just get your hunting license and you can go shooting in the mountains its way better and more fun then sitting on a bench shooting 100yards

I think the city is feeling the pressure now.  More people going into the mountains, people shooting on non regulated “private” ranges.  I’ll bet they push the opening of kokohead.  Just crossing my fingers got good news next week.  Positive thoughts

The BI is the size of the state of Connecticut and only two hundred thousand people.
Yet we have to play by Ohau's shitty rules. I don't feel very diplomatic.