RSN- I definitely can’t afford $13k for an atv.  That’s more than what I’ve paid for my last 3 vehicles combined.
(My last 3 vehicles were a hand me down olds silhouette van, a $800 Previa van and now a $3000 Odyssey van which is moving to Lanai in May if young Brothers don’t cancel shipping again)

I would have to buy a used one

Yah don’t buy a jeep it’s an over priced piece of shit. Seems with your budget I would get a Toyota pickup with a solid axle.

Hi State - Yeah...my neighbor had a Jeep.   I don’t recall it being that great.

RSN- out of curiosity I looked for used atv’s and found only one....the racing kind.   None of the rancher types.  I guess a lot of the new generation just stays home and plays video games?  I used to see a bit of atv’s on Craigslist years ago.

Even a decent used ATV Rancher style 4x4 will run about $2500 to $5000.  New they are going to run $8500 and up.  A decent used 4x4 ATV is not easy to find.  I looked at CL for 4 minths before I found  good Kawasaki for $2600.  You won't find a decent street legal 4x4 of any kind for less than $5000.  Anything cheaper would be a rust bucket, need a lot of work, have a lot of hidden problems or maybe all 3.  In most cases you get what you pay for.

From what it sounds like you wont be needing it for any major off roading so a stock 4wd nissan/toyota will get you there and back. It will boil down to how much you want to spend and your preference. I also recommend buying as close to stock as possible, most people have no clue what they're doing functionally in terms of mods to their trucks. From your description the mods I would do would be good tires and a winch like bass said. I've never needed a winch, but better to have it and not need it as they say.

RSN - oh boy.  A used atv is still pretty expensive.   They look fun to ride.

Kia - my brother in law is one of those lolos!!  He did the big lift kit, big tires and idk what else.....my dad said it was all cosmetic....and added a lot of weight ...I think it affected the transmission...possibly the motor.....got rid of it.  I’m almost positive it never went off the road....maybe park by the beach at most.

So now whenever I see a lifted vehicle for sale I don’t even consider it.  I just think he has a small pee pee and the motor and trans may be in poor shape.  A lot of them look almost new

I’m not going anywhere crazy so I’ll lilkely skip the winch for now.   The property already has a lot of roads.  I mainly don’t want to park on the side of the road and find the shoulder is saturated and my fwd van is spinning.  The place is on the windward side.

If it was on the west side, I’d just use the Odyssey...dead shocks and all.

Hmmm.  I heard some people have Toyota 4wd vans.  Hiace or something and Mitsubishi delica 4wd vans

Cheapest answer
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Out for a leisurely ride with his HOG!

Out for a leisurely ride with his HOG!

Da cheapest ansa is buy one gud  set boots an walk feet.

Hah!!  I was thinking of getting a moped or electric mountain bike!!

Leave the moped at the bottom

Drive truck to the top.

Hunt going down

Take moped up.  One person can load the moped, just no get burned.

Yes, I’m vertically challenged

Worried about a lift causing engine damage? Lol

I don’t know if the guy who did the mods to the truck knows what he is doing.  I would prefer stock

Even at my work, guys with decades of experience.....

I’m one of them.......

Do you have dogs? Myself personally I avoid hunting in the rain. Hate the Mud.
If a good used truck is what you're looking for then I would recommend you look at a used Tundra 05-06 4x4. They are about the size of a new Tacoma and have the better V8 engine then the earlier years. Still people selling them are asking way over KBB. (Yes gas millage sucks! But all Toyota's aren't very good on gas)
I know you said you wouldn't do American.
If you don't have dogs and basically only hunt alone? Jeep would be my recommendation also. the Dana solid axles are almost bullet proof.
1st gen Tacoma trucks have engine issues and ball joint issues. 2nd gen Tacomas have wheel bearing issues. (Don't get me wrong I'm 100% a Tacoma guy) Just love the look of the truck.
But for purely 4x4 utility use the jeep is hard to beat. IMHO!
Make sure you get a good set of offroad tires.

Good Luck!

Hi T
I have to put aside the 4x4 search until I ship my odyssey van to Lanai and sell my daughter’s car.  Directive from my boss.

The 4x4 will become my daughter’s “vehicle” till she moves away in a year or so

I’ll get my wife’s old sienna for now

Before the boss laid down the law, I was looking at a Suzuki Grand Vitara.  It’s unibody and ladder frame so it does okay off road.  Has lo in awd.  Definitely not a body on frame like a truck or other true off road vehicle.  Hopefully enough to not get stuck.  It can fit five and is cheap!

Thanks for the advice.  I’ve been considering a tundra.  But I’m kind of short.  The newer tundras are huge.  I’ll keep my eyes open for an older tundra

Are the tundras after 2006 alright?  Other than making me look like a Oompa Loompa and poor gas mileage

For tires I guess I’ll ask here after I get a vehicle.

I can’t get a Jeep.  They generally have rag tops and it’s hard to enjoy a meal when I have to keep eyeballing the vehicle from the restaurant after going to kokohead. 

For the private land, I’m guessing 4-6 people and I guess in groups of 2.  No dogs.

In the public areas I go by myself, but not by choice.  I’m a newb so I prefer to go with one of my friends or coworkers who are also beginning and not real serious.... but none are interested.  I don’t ask the real hunters.  They would probably get irritated or feel like they are babysitting.  Ok going alone.  Just no can huli and get hurt

The Winchester is doing great.  Only thing is one of my coworkers is always using it so I never use it.  I have to use one of my loaners instead.  I guess they like the look and feel of wood compared to plastic.