This state is broken. I hate to be “one of those people” that flee a state rather then stand and try to change the laws but I just see no light at the end of the tunnel. People here, especially Hawaiians, don’t give a crap about politics. This allows politicians to run unelected and propose and enforce crappy policies. I don’t see myself living here much longer.

With that being said, what state, if you had to, would you guys go to? I’d love to go to Wyoming. Clean air, secluded, unreal hunting and fishing, lax gun laws, just to name a few things. Frigid winters is the only thing stopping me. How about you guys?

Arizona. Before I came back home, I was living in Cali, but hanging out in AZ once a month (at least). I like it there, even in the summer!

For me, NV.  I have friends and a daughter and 3 grandkids in Vegas.  AZ would be my 2nd choice.  Got some friends in Kingman and Phoenix.

AZ

bunch of oppressed, distressed people hating the govt but keep voting or no vote the same politicians every time

wah wah I hate the USA but I love dem welfare chks! gotta buy me some fat bracelets bling bling

AZ

bunch of oppressed, distressed people hating the govt but keep voting or no vote the same politicians every time

wah wah I hate the USA but I love dem welfare chks! gotta buy me some fat bracelets bling bling

If you feel so distressed about your Hawaiian, local, and Democratic Party voting neighbors, why don't you just leave?

No one is forcing you to live a distressed filled life in Hawaii.

Better yet, why don't you go OHA or to Governor Ige's office, exercise your 1st Amendment rights, and let your feeling be known.   

If you feel so distressed about your Hawaiian, local, and Democratic Party voting neighbors, why don't you just leave?

No one is forcing you to live a distressed filled life in Hawaii.

Better yet, why don't you go OHA or to Governor Ige's office, exercise your 1st Amendment rights, and let your feeling be known.   

that's a lot of ASSumptions you made Brother Numsie. Where did I mention anything about race or party?

that's a lot of ASSumptions you made Brother Numsie. Where did I mention anything about race or party?

Well, let's take a look at what you posted and what meaning it inferred.

bunch of oppressed, distressed people hating the govt but keep voting or no vote the same politicians every time

The only group in Hawaii who are in distress due to the illegal occupation by the US is the Hawaiians.  When you reference people who "keep voting or no vote the same politicians every time", the groups of people that could possibly fit the bill are Hawaiians, locals, or residents that consistently vote Democrat.



wah wah I hate the USA but I love dem welfare chks! gotta buy me some fat bracelets bling bling

The only group in Hawaii that has some reason to hate the US and whose population has quite large number who are on welfare are the Hawaiians, once again,

If not the groups I listed, what other groups of people are you referring?

Please tell, I would love to join in the bashing.   

Been scouting Arizona for some time.  Have a few relatives there and not unfamiliar territory.

They need help from all the democrats recently infesting the place.

I've tossed the idea around of moving to TX with some buddies that live there.  Also UT and MT for other reasons.  But none very seriously since I was taking care of elder family.  Now that those family members have passed, less of an anchor keeping me here.  Right now, it's a good job (at least overall and relatively) and current generation family. 

I've tossed the idea around of moving to TX with some buddies that live there.  Also UT and MT for other reasons.  But none very seriously since I was taking care of elder family.  Now that those family members have passed, less of an anchor keeping me here.  Right now, it's a good job (at least overall and relatively) and current generation family.

TX is a big state.
My experience is extremely hot and humid summers.  Cold winters.
MT Hot summers but dry.  Extremely cold winters.
( my uncle and some other family lived there)
UT, I just drove through in mid winter,  very windy.
You spent time in Seattle and are a Hawaii guy,
I'd look at SE AK.  But I'm retired and can go anywhere.
I'll stay in HI myself.  I'll watch the Democrats self destruct.
but I'm safely on an outer island surrounded by farms and ranches.

TX is a big state.
My experience is extremely hot and humid summers.  Cold winters.
MT Hot summers but dry.  Extremely cold winters.
( my uncle and some other family lived there)
UT, I just drove through in mid winter,  very windy.
You spent time in Seattle and are a Hawaii guy,
I'd look at SE AK.  But I'm retired and can go anywhere.
I'll stay in HI myself.  I'll watch the Democrats self destruct.
but I'm safely on an outer island surrounded by farms and ranches.

There are many things about TX that is appealing, at least parts of it.  I have been to various parts for work and it is amazing how things change from north Texas (closer to LA) to middle of Texas, to southern TX.  I would probably stay away from southern parts.  Good buddies are in DFW, Houston burbs, and near Amarillo. 

I've been to AK many times and have a bunch of good friends there as well.  Anchorage would be hell for me, but I don't think I am built to live out say Wasilla or Talkeetna where I know more folks. 

My aunt lives in Hamilton, VA.  She has 10 acres there as a "hobby farm".  Land values there going way up as the affluent move out to that area for the hobby aspect as well as wanting to get away from the DC metro area.  Lots of yuppies.  My aunt has lived there for 20 years and has seen a lot of changes.  She also has a farm in WV as well where she raises horses.  In her VA property, she has a deer stand.  She has a lever action 30-30, but doesn't hunt.  She has a natural spring so it seems to attract deer.  That and I think the deer caught on that she doesn't hunt, so they are safe there.  She's not against hunting and she said she would, but just doesn't.  Yet. . .

...
I'll stay in HI myself.  I'll watch the Democrats self destruct.
but I'm safely on an outer island surrounded by farms and ranches and volcanoes and telescope protesters.

FIFY.   

TX is a big state.
My experience is extremely hot and humid summers.

Had to spend some time in Greenville north of Dallas in the summer, working on a project at E-Systems.

Unbelievably hot and humid.  Rain at night, bright sun in the morning.  Come out of the motel room and see steam rising up off the grass.  Unreal.

Never spent any time in west Texas near new Mexico, might be more tolerable.

Rejected working in Florida for the same reason.  Heat as in the desert i can deal with.  Add in humidity and I suffer.

Had to spend some time in Greenville north of Dallas in the summer, working on a project at E-Systems.

Unbelievably hot and humid.  Rain at night, bright sun in the morning.  Come out of the motel room and see steam rising up off the grass.  Unreal.

Never spent any time in west Texas near new Mexico, might be more tolerable.

Rejected working in Florida for the same reason.  Heat as in the desert i can deal with.  Add in humidity and I suffer.

I lived in Oklahoma for 5 years.

There, it's not the heat, it's the stupidity.   

FIFY.   

FIFY
Ten years ago I would have been "hunting" in the area
of the protestors.  I would have made them nervous.
I drove that road for ten years, I also know the back way in.
My present income is not impacted by protestors, but I know
people who are very impacted.
As for disasters, you missed wild fires, tropical storms
Tsunamis, earthquakes, tornadoes, drought
( lots of people here on catchment), flood, et al
You can even experience a blizzard here.
I was trying hard to figure out what natural disaster
we don't experience here.
Sand storm is the only one. I could think of.
Still the BI is the best place I've ever lived.
Every place I've ever lived as an adult has been
declared a disaster area( Not my fault) that covers
many places. from Mississippi to Guam to Hawaii
and a lot in between
I just wish we could rid ourselves of the Democrat
infestation.  However,  realistically,   you have
that problem everywhere you go in America.

Everywhere west of the Rockies is turning into the Sahara, and at some point utilities will be ridiculously expensive and the grid failures will kill people from the lack of AC. Better to try and find somewhere that has a renewable water source that is not contaminated.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/04/16/drought-worst-western-megadrought-here-study-says/5145929002/

Prescott, Arizona!

I lived in Oklahoma for 5 years.

There, it's not the heat, it's the stupidity.   

Only drove through OK on I-40, no idea about the local critters.

Could never live in a place so flat and bleak.  Need a view like I have now, just without the miserable political climate of Hawaii.

Prescott, Arizona!

You know I can’t resist your post! 

I just moved to Prescott Valley, a suburb of Prescott. Housing is a little cheaper here than in Prescott proper and a lot cheaper than Hawaii. Also, more country out here than in Prescott. With Prescott having only a population of around 40k it is still a small town feel. We are up around 5,300-5,500 feet in elevation so when it is 115 in Phoenix it is around 90 in Prescott. We get snow out here to the tune of only a couple of feet in a year. And my understanding is that it doesn’t stick and is gone in a day or two. We just had a small amount of hail earlier this week. The people here so far have been very welcoming and friendly.

We have been here since the 2nd and we are enjoying it here so far. We miss Hawaii but we had to leave because I retired and we can’t afford to stay here on a fixed income. Also, the medical facilities here leave a lot to be desired if you have some major issues like my wife. Those were the reasons we left for. While the political and anti 2A atmosphere here is maddening at times I always felt it was worth fighting for. But that is JMHO.

Well, let's take a look at what you posted and what meaning it inferred.



If not the groups I listed, what other groups of people are you referring?

Please tell, I would love to join in the bashing.   

Don't be inserting your comments in my quotes and making it appear that I said all those things YOU inferred.