let's forget about science on this one

I'm not understanding, so hurry up and open!

Please note, under Mayor Caldwell’s Emergency Order 2020-08, all City and County of Honolulu parks (except Hanauma Bay Nature Preserve and Koko Head Shooting Complex), are open only for walking, running, jogging, or biking. Unfortunately, we cannot open the Koko Head Shooting Complex for the public at this time although we will likely open it up some time in the near future. We are working on a phased re-opening of this facility. Please note, all City parks are also available for usage of open comfort stations/showers, accessing designated community garden plots, and traversing City parks to engage in ocean activities such as swimming, surfing, solo paddling, and other activities allowed by law.

Typical politician-esque response. . .

it's all about power - nothing to do with what is rational. I bet most politicians don't understand the term "flatten the curve". I bet most of them believe that it refers to having close to zero infections.

When they said they are working on a "phased re-opening of the facility" I resigned myself to accepting that it won't open anytime soon.

Interpretation..... I dont know

called mayor's office and left a message to urge them to expedite the reopening of kokohead shooting complex and how easy it would be to maintain guidelines

also called governor's office but unable to leave message.  they are not taking any messages because Ainokea.  hey Ige…. 

called mayor's office and left a message to urge them to expedite the reopening of kokohead shooting complex and how easy it would be to maintain guidelines

also called governor's office but unable to leave message.  they are not taking any messages because Ainokea.  hey Ige…. 

I'm definitely NO fan of Ige. In fact quite the opposite.  I used to work with his brother and when when Ige was elected, I saw how cabinet positions were filled.  That included said brother and a college classmate (whom incidentally I can't stand either).  So many TOTALLY not fit for those positions. 

Anyways, just when I think Ige can't possibly handle things worse, or come up with a bonehead way to bumble things, he goes and proves me wrong. . . 

I'm definitely NO fan of Ige. In fact quite the opposite.  I used to work with his brother and when when Ige was elected, I saw how cabinet positions were filled.  That included said brother and a college classmate (whom incidentally I can't stand either).  So many TOTALLY not fit for those positions. 

Anyways, just when I think Ige can't possibly handle things worse, or come up with a bonehead way to bumble things, he goes and proves me wrong. . . 

Yeah, still can't figure out how he managed to screw up the opening dates the other day.

You figure, with this crisis the most important criteria in everyone's minds lately, he can at least get the dates right.  It's not like there's more things pressing nowadays, the state is in a literal standstill.  Dead in the water.

Yeah, still can't figure out how he managed to screw up the opening dates the other day.

You figure, with this crisis the most important criteria in everyone's minds lately, he can at least get the dates right.  It's not like there's more things pressing nowadays, the state is in a literal standstill.  Dead in the water.

The shitty thing about all of that (well among others) is that Green is coming out of this looking like a damn savior. 

The shitty thing about all of that (well among others) is that Green is coming out of this looking like a damn savior. 

He is looking like that to a lot of people.
And that’s friggin’ scary.

golf is open, retail will open soon, malls will open next week, salon and haircut places may open soon too.  and Costco is more crowded than its ever been and its been open all this time.
its easier to maintain social distance and keep areas clean and sanitary at the range than it is at a mall or salon. range is very similar to golf driving range or playing golf. golf is not a right, its not even a sport. guys driving around in battery operated tiny cars hitting a small ball into a hole.  that's not a sport.  that's married men hiding from their families.  that's what that is.
when these places open before the range does, that means we are getting screwed! 

One possible hangup for the range not opening yet is the RSO's.  They have to interact with shooters at a close distance due to the noise, and may have to physically touch them.   They also routinely touch the guns to check them.

He is looking like that to a lot of people.
And that’s friggin’ scary.

Yup.  He's a total front.  He was even shown on TV so many times stressing importance of X and then shown on camera later not doing X himself.  I used to see him on walks with his wife (at least I think it was his wife) and totally not "walking the walk" of what he was on TV earlier in the day stating the importance of, which was wearing masks in public. 

The shitty thing about all of that (well among others) is that Green is coming out of this looking like a damn savior.

you left out "i'm a doctor" when you refer to green...

Yup.  He's a total front.  He was even shown on TV so many times stressing importance of X and then shown on camera later not doing X himself.  I used to see him on walks with his wife (at least I think it was his wife) and totally not "walking the walk" of what he was on TV earlier in the day stating the importance of, which was wearing masks in public.

it's worse, he's a full on socialist
and likely to be our next governor
the real doctors and fake doctors all don't care for him...

you left out "i'm a doctor" when you refer to green...

Where the guy throwing the middle finger emoji when I need it?

it's worse, he's a full on socialist
and likely to be our next governor
the real doctors and fake doctors all don't care for him...

Yeah, I got the socialist part from him. Didn’t want to go too far. Ya know, being a public forum and all. :facepalm: :124:

the main reason why they not opening the range soon is bc mayor and governor don't give a crap about the range. that's why
they can give this reason or that reason.  but that's just political talk for "I don't give a crap about you and what you want, even if it makes sense."

Got this list from 10/2019

Governor David Ige
https://governor.hawaii.gov/
808-586-0034
Hawaii State Capitol
Honolulu, HI 96813

Mayor Kirk Caldwell
mayor@honolulu.gov
(808) 768-4141
Fax (808) 768-5552    

City Hall Address below:

Honolulu Hale
530 S. King St.
Honolulu, HI 96813

Honolulu City Council Fax:   (808) 768-5011

 
District 1 -  Kymberly Marcos Pine 
Portions of Ewa Villages and Ewa Beach, Kapolei, Makakilo, Kalaeloa, Honokai Hale, Ko Olina, Nanakuli, Ma'ili, Wai'anae, Makaha, Kea'au, Makua
Phone: (808) 768-5001
E-mail  kmpine@honolulu.gov

District 2 – Heidi Tsuneyoshi
Mililani Mauka,Wahiawa, Mokuleia,Waialua, Haleiwa, Pupukea, Sunset Beach, Kahuku, Laie, Hauula, Punaluu, Kahana, Kaaawa, Kualoa, Waiahole,and Kahaluu
Phone:  (808) 768-5002
E-mail htsuneyoshi@honolulu.gov

District 3 - Ikaika Anderson
Ahuimanu, Heeia, Haiku, Kaneohe, Maunawili, Kailua, Olomana, Enchanted Lake, and Waimanalo.
Phone:  (808) 768-5003
E-mail ianderson@honolulu.gov

District 4 – Tommy Waters
Hawaii Kai, Kuliouou, Niu Valley, Aina Haina, Wailupe, Waialae-Iki, Kalani Valley, Kahala, Wilhemina Rise, Kaimuki, portions of Kapahulu, Diamond Head, Black Point, Waikiki, and Ala Moana Beach Park.
Phone:  (808) 768-5004
E-mail tommy.waters@honolulu.gov

District 5 - Ann Kobayashi
Kaimuki, Palolo Valley, St. Louis Heights, Manoa, Moiliili, McCully, and portions of Ala Moana, Kakaako, and Makiki.
Phone:  (808) 768-5005
E-mail akobayashi@honolulu.gov

District 6 - Carol Fukunaga
Portions of Makiki, Downtown Honolulu, Punchbowl, Pauoa Valley, Nuuanu, Alewa Heights, Papakolea, Fort Shafter, Moanalua, Halawa, Aiea, Kalihi Valley, and portions of Liliha and Kalihi.
Phone:  (808) 768-5006
E-mail cafukunaga@honolulu.gov

District 7 - Joey Manahan
Kalihi, lwilei, Kalihi Kai, Mapunapuna, Salt Lake, Aliamanu, Hickam, Foster Village, Ford Island, and Sand Island.
Phone:  (808) 768-5007
E-mail jmanahan@honolulu.gov

District 8 – Brandon Elefante
Pearl City, Pearl City Peninsula, Waimalu, Crestview, Waipio Gentry, portions of Waipahu.
Phone:  (808) 768-5008
E-mabelefante@honolulu.gov

District 9 - Ron Menor
Waikele, Village Park, Royal Kunia, Mililani Town, West Loch, Iroquois Point, and portions of Ewa Villages and Ewa Beach.
Phone:  (808) 768-5009
E-mail rmenor@honolulu.gov
 

Thanks I will be emailing them daily

One possible hangup for the range not opening yet is the RSO's.  They have to interact with shooters at a close distance due to the noise, and may have to physically touch them.   They also routinely touch the guns to check them.

Dey can use gloves and one bamboo stick fo get da shootas attention.