My poverty elcan, made in Russia lol

A buddy of mine has that Holosun. I like it. That the one with the 65 MOA circle, right? I like that reticle...

that's the one
can also switch to just red dot, or just the circle with the crosshairs

I use 2-7’s on my AR’s.
I figure inside 35 feet, HD distance, I’m point shooting or using a sidearm.
35 feet and out I can shoot with two eyes open.
One reticle is illuminated dot in crosshairs.

Zombie apocalypse I’ll need to able to head shot at 50 to 100 yards.

I figured out, for me, I can’t shoot for shit with a red dot at distance and angle of pie plate is no fun at the range.

I use 2-7’s on my AR’s.
I figure inside 35 feet, HD distance, I’m point shooting or using a sidearm.
35 feet I can shoot with two eyes open.
One reticle is illuminated dot in crosshairs.

Zombie apocalypse I’ll need to able to head shot at 50 to 100 yards.

I figured out, for me, I can’t shoot for shit with a red dot at distance and angle of pie plate is no fun at the range.

I used to use the Burris fullfield ii 2-7x35. Was a nice optic, liked the concept, and it was lighter than a LPVO but I hated how the whole rear bulb turns when you change magnifications and the limited options on the market for a 2-7x. Right now I’m eyeing out on the Sig Sierra3BDX 2.5-8x and set up the reticle for a bdc layout.

I use 2-7’s on my AR’s.
I figure inside 35 feet, HD distance, I’m point shooting or using a sidearm.
35 feet and out I can shoot with two eyes open.
One reticle is illuminated dot in crosshairs.

Zombie apocalypse I’ll need to able to head shot at 50 to 100 yards.

I figured out, for me, I can’t shoot for shit with a red dot at distance and angle of pie plate is no fun at the range.

Sounds like you need Inspector to come back and punch holes in your target (in place of hitting steel behind you). 

 
 

I fall back on ACOGs. Few moving parts.The widely issued TA31 has a very short eye relief but in terms of simplicity it works all the time. If the tritium wears out and you have the light tube, just tape a small LED keychain to the top of it. The All Guard team used paper hole reinforcement to reduce parallax errors. I've had luck with machined acrylic ocular pieces with a a center aperture. The TA11 is heavier but offers a more forgiving eye relief. In a CQB situation you can look over the top of the sight for speed.
The best advice I adhere to is "Fear the man (or woman) with one gun (or optic)"

For a pure defensive rifle that would see range use from time to time, I’d personally be using an RDS and grab a pair of binoculars or a spotting scope to check groupings since Koko Head is limited to100 yards.  For hard use, I trust aimpoint the most but like the eotech reticle.  I’m also a fan of Holosun for a more budgetary rds.  I think they’ve made their mark in the market and have proven to be fairly rugged.

That being said, I’m in the process of wanting to build a shtf rifle.  I’ll be putting an LVPO on it and am contemplating a top or offset mounted mrds.  For that type of build, I’m looking for something that is reliable, great at 1x, clear glass and daylight bright.  Money no object, I’d probably be looking at a Kahles K16i, Nightforce ATACR, or Gen III razor.  At around $1,000, I’d be looking at a used Razor Gen II E, maybe a a trijicon credo 1-6 sfp, or others in that range.  At around $500-600, I’d be looking at the Steiner p4xi, vortex viper pst gen II 1-6, and the Swampfox Arrowhead 1-8 or 1-10.

I did have the new Vortex 1-8 strike eagle on order for weeks and was still processing. took a couple days and 2 emails to cancel it bc they weren't taking phone calls
while I was waiting I was looking at the Swampfox Arrowhead. new company. I think started in 2018? from what people were saying its better than Primary Arms. clearer glass, better turrets, tracking is good. I cant afford a $2k optic, but something in the 500-600 range is within reach. I had the new Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8 on order for weeks and it was still being processed, so I figured it wasn't even in stock yet. it took 2 days and 2 emails to get it cancelled bc they weren't taking phone calls due to covid19.  idk wtf that means. customer service is customer service. corona virus or not. our customer service at work is the same if not better bc of corona virus. anyway I cancelled that order and took a chance on the Swampfox Arrowhead 1-10. from what I hear its very good. it shipped out the day after I ordered it so that's a good start. we'll see when it gets here.

I'll have the Holosun on my HD AR, so this 1-10 will be on a different AR. upgraded its current optic

I fall back on ACOGs. Few moving parts.The widely issued TA31 has a very short eye relief but in terms of simplicity it works all the time. If the tritium wears out and you have the light tube, just tape a small LED keychain to the top of it. The All Guard team used paper hole reinforcement to reduce parallax errors. I've had luck with machined acrylic ocular pieces with a a center aperture. The TA11 is heavier but offers a more forgiving eye relief. In a CQB situation you can look over the top of the sight for speed.
The best advice I adhere to is "Fear the man (or woman) with one gun (or optic)"

Have you ever considered buying tritium vials instead of the led light to put on top of the acog’s tritium/fiber optic?
You can get them from mixglo and they aren’t very expensive (though they’re tiny but they’re bright). That’s what I did when I still had a SeeAll sight, bought a tiny tritium rod from them and stuck it in one of the little holes in the fiber optic and sealed it with tape and it was overall cheaper than buying the SeeAll tritium sight.

I did have the new Vortex 1-8 strike eagle on order for weeks and was still processing. took a couple days and 2 emails to cancel it bc they weren't taking phone calls
while I was waiting I was looking at the Swampfox Arrowhead. new company. I think started in 2018? from what people were saying its better than Primary Arms. clearer glass, better turrets, tracking is good. I cant afford a $2k optic, but something in the 500-600 range is within reach. I had the new Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8 on order for weeks and it was still being processed, so I figured it wasn't even in stock yet. it took 2 days and 2 emails to get it cancelled bc they weren't taking phone calls due to covid19.  idk wtf that means. customer service is customer service. corona virus or not. our customer service at work is the same if not better bc of corona virus. anyway I cancelled that order and took a chance on the Swampfox Arrowhead 1-10. from what I hear its very good. it shipped out the day after I ordered it so that's a good start. we'll see when it gets here.

I'll have the Holosun on my HD AR, so this 1-10 will be on a different AR. upgraded its current optic

Sucks to hear that Vortex's CS left you hanging (well, worse).  I heard their CS is excellent, but I only have experience with working with their dealers/distributors.  Vortex is in WI, and I didn't think shutdowns were particularly widespread and strict there.  That said, I have seen many companies that seem close to normal operation in terms of online ordering and stuff.  Sucks to hear that they let you down, but hopefully that opens the door for Swampfox.  Good to get feedback from a source that is closer to home, as opposed to weeding through the various YouTube videos.  Hopefully the range opens soon.  Sounds like you have at least two things that need to be tested.   

Sucks to hear that Vortex's CS left you hanging (well, worse).  I heard their CS is excellent, but I only have experience with working with their dealers/distributors.  Vortex is in WI, and I didn't think shutdowns were particularly widespread and strict there.  That said, I have seen many companies that seem close to normal operation in terms of online ordering and stuff.  Sucks to hear that they let you down, but hopefully that opens the door for Swampfox.  Good to get feedback from a source that is closer to home, as opposed to weeding through the various YouTube videos.  Hopefully the range opens soon.  Sounds like you have at least two things that need to be tested.   

Sorry I should've been more specific. It was PSA I ordered the vortex from, so it's their customer service not Vortex. It said in stock, but after a few weeks it said backorder, maybe they are just super busy and their computer inventory is off.  Said things may take as long as 5 days to ship but it went to 3 weeks. But by that time I wanted to try the swampfox anyways. I already have a few vortex and they are very good. Just figured I'll try something new

PSA usually ships within a reasonable time, but this time took a few weeks and still processing

And Swampfox had 25% off so that was an incentive too

Sorry I should've been more specific. It was PSA I ordered the vortex from, so it's their customer service not Vortex. It said in stock, but after a few weeks it said backorder, maybe they are just super busy and their computer inventory is off.  Said things may take as long as 5 days to ship but it went to 3 weeks. But by that time I wanted to try the swampfox anyways. I already have a few vortex and they are very good. Just figured I'll try something new

Ahh.  Yeah, I've heard mixed reviews of PSA's CS.  For me, they've been nothing but awesome.  Things shipped very quickly after ordering, arrived quickly, good quality products (esp for the price), good sales, etc.  The one negative for me is their rifle mag policy, but whatevers.

On the other hand, I have many friends who have pretty much written off ordering from PSA.  Reports of shipping delays, particularly on items shown as in stock.  Sounds similar to your experience.  If an item was shown as in stock and took 3 weeks to ship is UNSAT.  I would be understanding if they gave me an update that their inventory wasn't up to date. 

As a side, but similar topic, Geissele really pissed a lot of people off in their last Black Friday sale.  My order took over 3 months.  What eventually got to me were that someone on their social media started talking $hit back to people commenting.  Second was that they practically started flaunting business as usual and moving onto other things all while hundreds of orders still backordered.  I mean quality products is the main thing, but CS to me is huge. 

I hope that’s not the case with my PSA order. I just placed an order for their 20” fsb upper earlier this morning.
Never had a problem with their shipping speed, but I’ve heard stories about the quality of their assemblies such as loose or overtorqued barrel nuts, gas keys shearing off, upper doesn’t cycle...etc. Personally I’ve experienced the overtorqued barrel nut when I tried to upgrade a PSA upper to a free float handguard, and a BCG doesn’t like to run after several mags without adding more oil.

Swampfox has some odd marketing vids. I dont' think they are a manufacturer but a branding company like Osprey.

Swampfox has some odd marketing vids. I dont' think they are a manufacturer but a branding company like Osprey.

From what I hear, they are not a manufacturer. They do design their optics then a manufacturer on China makes it
I hope it's much better than Osprey 
Owner used to work at Primary Arms, then went on his own.
PA makes their optics same way. Swampfox reticle is similar to acss reticle, but more simple

From what I hear, they are not a manufacturer. They do design their optics then a manufacturer on China makes it
I hope it's much better than Osprey 
Owner used to work at Primary Arms, then went on his own.
PA makes their optics same way. Swampfox reticle is similar to acss reticle, but more simple

Instead of having a whole page dedicated to telling the story of Francis Marion, have a page detailing the mechanics of their scopes. Like this: https://www.nightforceoptics.com/technology

I was skeptical of Nightforce when they came out years ago but after reading about what they know in design, manufacture and shooting NF scopes I am confident in their products and would spend my money on NF.

I must have ordered at least a dozen times from PSA. each time before has been quick shipping. So I'm not writing them off yet. They're probably just really busy

I hear a lot of complaints about shipping delays from optics planet right now from other firearms websites. I guess these big well known firearms and parts websites and stores are all busy now and selling out. Even Aero Precision website backordered

I tend of hear negative stuff about swampfox optics.

Most “budget” optics are made in China, hence the backorders.