AR optic of choice (Read 37445 times)

changemyoil66

Re: AR optic of choice
« Reply #140 on: September 29, 2021, 12:32:38 PM »
Looks > function/utility. . .

#believe

Tacticool bro. Hence why the M45 is a good 1911.

changemyoil66

Re: AR optic of choice
« Reply #141 on: September 29, 2021, 12:34:27 PM »

 (I know where the 100 yard markers are.)


Reminded me of the scene in The Green Berets, where the VC is pacing the firebase.

drck1000

Re: AR optic of choice
« Reply #142 on: September 29, 2021, 12:48:59 PM »
I suck with irons except at pellet gun distances.
I suck with RDS. For real accuracy anyway.
I run 2-7Xs on my ARs except my daughters which has a 4-12X and is a basically a bench gun.
One 2-7 is illuminated with a dot in the crosshairs reticle. Love that reticle.
I figure if I’m using my AR for home defense in my small house, it’s essentially point shooting. 10 yards. Angle of man.
If SHTF I’ve ranged my street out 100 yards and I need optics. (I know where the 100 yard markers are.)
I do have back up irons and a carry handle for my AR though just in case.
Most have fixed front sight base.

At least I know my limitations.
Which are many.
   :D
"Need moar expensif ammo lidat"

 :rofl:

stangzilla

Re: AR optic of choice
« Reply #143 on: September 29, 2021, 12:54:39 PM »
i have 3 AR's all with different purposes:

defensive AR with Holosun 510c and BUIS
range toy AR with 1-10 LPVO
range toy AR10 with 6-24x50 (probably overkill, but shoots great  :thumbsup: )

aieahound

Re: AR optic of choice
« Reply #144 on: September 29, 2021, 12:58:10 PM »
"Need moar expensif ammo lidat"

 :rofl:
Federal Bulk xm193 5.56 baby ! Lake City brass.
Angle of man.
Old OGC sales. They were awesome. (But parking still sucked.)
Got some soft points but saving them for the rainy day. Should probably at least test them.

Gonna buy the good stuff for the October 10th shoot around….no I won’t.
Still gonna be out shooting bulk ball ammo.  :D

That’s messed up. Don’t know why I don’t take shooting the AR and pistols like I do the .22 or .17HMRs ….
Maybe I think they’re more practical than precision.

Good post by Stangz above.
Still like the LVPO’s though. Old eyes?
I know the RDS’s don’t agree with me. I’m better with irons. Wouldn’t be as fast though at angle of man distances.
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drck1000

Re: AR optic of choice
« Reply #145 on: September 29, 2021, 01:40:50 PM »
i have 3 AR's all with different purposes:

defensive AR with Holosun 510c and BUIS
range toy AR with 1-10 LPVO
range toy AR10 with 6-24x50 (probably overkill, but shoots great  :thumbsup: )
Lemme see now:
training/defensive/all-around
main EoTech EXPS
somewhat main Aimpoint CompM5
beater/loaner/tester Aimpoint Pro

training/defensive/test match ammo/be fancy
LPVO 1-8

drck1000

Re: AR optic of choice
« Reply #146 on: September 29, 2021, 01:43:36 PM »
Federal Bulk xm193 5.56 baby ! Lake City brass.
Angle of man.
Old OGC sales. They were awesome. (But parking still sucked.)
Got some soft points but saving them for the rainy day. Should probably at least test them.

Gonna buy the good stuff for the October 10th shoot around….no I won’t.
Still gonna be out shooting bulk ball ammo.  :D

That’s messed up. Don’t know why I don’t take shooting the AR and pistols like I do the .22 or .17HMRs ….
Maybe I think they’re more practical than precision.

Good post by Stangz above.
Still like the LVPO’s though. Old eyes?
I know the RDS’s don’t agree with me. I’m better with irons. Wouldn’t be as fast though at angle of man distances.
I like 193.  Shoots great in at least a couple of my guns.  I mean not like FGMM, but I like it, at least the Federal brown boxes. 

RDS don't agree with you?  So you have astigmatism? Not that it should really matter that much.  When you say "better with irons", you mean results on paper?  Target acquisition?  Comfortable?

macsak

Re: AR optic of choice
« Reply #147 on: September 29, 2021, 02:26:56 PM »
one more than me
i own no scopes either...

Personally, I only have 1 rifle. And I run the SIG Romeo5 because

1) Auto on and off. So no need worry about turning on or leaving on and battery dies in 6 months.
2) My home is 500 sq ft. So a LVPO would get in the way.  It can be learned to acquire in CQB, but a RDS is easier IMO. Also I have no yard. Living on a 3 acre home might benefit more with a LVPO.
3) For the above, I am confident I can engage at 100yards no problem with the RDS. But in reality, max distance would be 10 yards.  Any more and "belief of fear of danger" would be harder to articulate. Unless there's a movie style hotel hallway gun fight or Red Dawn type invasion.  So 10 yards is more than sufficient.
4) The skill builders I have done so far have a max range of 40 yards. Which I can hit an index card with no issues under time.
5) The Romeo5 is cheap compared to other similar type RDS or holographic sights.  I can't imagine myself spending $1200 on an ACOG, on my cheap Smith and Wesson M&P15.

But to each their own. Buy what makes you happy and fits your needs.  And buy once, cry once. I'm learning this more and more as the years go on.

aieahound

Re: AR optic of choice
« Reply #148 on: September 29, 2021, 03:50:16 PM »
I like 193.  Shoots great in at least a couple of my guns.  I mean not like FGMM, but I like it, at least the Federal brown boxes. 

RDS don't agree with you?  So you have astigmatism? Not that it should really matter that much.  When you say "better with irons", you mean results on paper?  Target acquisition?  Comfortable?

For me it’s on paper or steel. I should try another RDS. Was thinking of the Romeo.
Could be I’m left eyed but look through RDS (and scope) with right eye.
Never shot them less than fifty yards.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2021, 03:55:41 PM by aieahound »

drck1000

Re: AR optic of choice
« Reply #149 on: September 29, 2021, 04:19:05 PM »
For me it’s on paper or steel. I should try another RDS. Was thinking of the Romeo.
Could be I’m left eyed but look through RDS (and scope) with right eye.
Never shot them less than fifty yards.
A "not really" pro tip.  It usually helps if you have a least one eye open, that can see the red dot. . .  :rofl:

Hehe.  Kidding, kidding.   ;D

But seriously, I've encounters many, many folks who are cross dominant.  All sorts of different attempts to use optics, where one of the most common but poor results "try" is tilting their head to get their off-side eye to try to see the dot.  Not saying that you are doing that, but that seems to be very common for some reason. 

I've seen folks shoot pretty well with budget optics, as long as they hold zero and can see the reticle or dot.  But NCStar.  That is one POS that I would probably offer to buy someone a new RDS if they had one. . . almost probably. . .

stangzilla

Re: AR optic of choice
« Reply #150 on: September 29, 2021, 04:32:35 PM »
they say the prism scope is good for those with astigmatism
i had 2 of those but sold them, i remember the reticle was pretty clear.  they were primary arms 3x and 5x

changemyoil66

Re: AR optic of choice
« Reply #151 on: September 29, 2021, 04:43:27 PM »
For me it’s on paper or steel. I should try another RDS. Was thinking of the Romeo.
Could be I’m left eyed but look through RDS (and scope) with right eye.
Never shot them less than fifty yards.
Im left eye dominate. But since shooting rifle, trained to become right eye.

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drck1000

Re: AR optic of choice
« Reply #152 on: September 29, 2021, 04:46:32 PM »
they say the prism scope is good for those with astigmatism
i had 2 of those but sold them, i remember the reticle was pretty clear.  they were primary arms 3x and 5x
My EoTech (holographic) is very clear.  Even my astigmatism corrected with contacts, the Aimpoint dot does look like a comma at times, but it doesn't bother me. 

Im left eye dominate. But since shooting rifle, trained to become right eye.

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Cool story bro. . .  :rofl:

aieahound

Re: AR optic of choice
« Reply #153 on: September 29, 2021, 04:52:40 PM »
A "not really" pro tip.  It usually helps if you have a least one eye open, that can see the red dot. . .  :rofl:

Hehe.  Kidding, kidding.   ;D
. . .

Laughed My Ass Off.
Probably my problem.  :rofl:

Reminded me of Metallica song Sandman
“ Sleep with one eye open
Gripping your pillow tight”

Scope I close my left eye.
Pistol I do the head lean.
Greenstomper gangster lean for long timers.
What happened to FredStomper? Just like InspectorDave.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2021, 04:59:17 PM by aieahound »

stangzilla

Re: AR optic of choice
« Reply #154 on: September 29, 2021, 05:05:37 PM »
My EoTech (holographic) is very clear.  Even my astigmatism corrected with contacts, the Aimpoint dot does look like a comma at times, but it doesn't bother me. 
Cool story bro. . .  :rofl:

they say those holo-sights are good for astigmatism too

drck1000

Re: AR optic of choice
« Reply #155 on: September 29, 2021, 05:13:01 PM »
SNIP

What happened to FredStomper? Just like InspectorDave.
I was texting with him yesterday.  He's doing good.  I told him to swing by.  I guess he's shy.  Or his warm milk put him to sleep early. . .  ;D

stangzilla

Re: AR optic of choice
« Reply #156 on: September 29, 2021, 05:18:32 PM »
i have 3 AR's all with different purposes:

defensive AR with Holosun 510c and BUIS
range toy AR with 1-10 LPVO
range toy AR10 with 6-24x50 (probably overkill, but shoots great  :thumbsup: )

i've been thinking of switching optics around a bit
keep the defensive AR as is
put the LPVO 1-10 on the AR10
put the 6-24x50 on my bolt action 223
get another LPVO for the AR15 maybe a 1-6 or 1-8 to replace the 1-10 bc the 1-10 is kind of big on the AR15, but wouldn't be too bad on the AR10 since its a bigger gun. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: AR optic of choice
« Reply #157 on: September 29, 2021, 05:36:57 PM »
Im left eye dominate. But since shooting rifle, trained to become right eye.

Cross-dominant vision is a very complicated topic.

The number one rule I found is to close my dominant left eye when using a magnified optic and right handed rifle.  Other than that situation, I try to keep both eyes open.

Closing one eye can cut the light reaching the optic nerve in half, causing the brain to alter the dilation of the open eye and potentially making it more difficult to see and focus on the target.  Using one eye open can also severely limit depth of field (how much in front of and beyond where you're focusing is actually in focus), and field of vision (distance to the left and right of the target that you are able to see).

There are many variables that can factor into how you compensate for this "condition" while keeping both eyes open. 

This video does an excellent job of addressing pretty much every variable.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: AR optic of choice
« Reply #158 on: September 29, 2021, 05:41:08 PM »
you can be whatever eye you want...cis, non-binary eye #noidiscrimination please

« Last Edit: September 29, 2021, 06:56:16 PM by ren »
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: AR optic of choice
« Reply #159 on: September 29, 2021, 05:49:24 PM »
you can be whatever eye you want...cis, non-binary eye #noidiscrimination please

It won't matter for most anyway.  They can't hit the broad side of a barn with ANY eye/s!

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw