God speed to our astronauts and America’s next chapter in space exploration! SPACEX rules!

God speed to our astronauts and America’s next chapter in space exploration! SPACEX rules!

Scrubbed due to weather.
Failure is not an option here.

Scrubbed due to weather.
Failure is not an option here.

Definitely! Resked for Saturday @ 3:22 EST!

Dead hooker has to stay on earth a little while longer.

Dead hooker has to stay on earth a little while longer.

I doubt she/he cares ....

 

Elon sure likes spending our tax money. None of his businesses would be profitable without it.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/spacex-prototype-starship-rocket-rips-apart-massive-explosion-day-ahead-manned-launch

Not surprised, given he was one of the first to put self-crashing cars on our roads.

Elon is the wonder kid of the 21st century.  Shows the world about American values in ingenuity and hard work to advance mankind, and that capitalism works.

I can't wait for the moon mission and mars.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/spacex-prototype-starship-rocket-rips-apart-massive-explosion-day-ahead-manned-launch

Not surprised, given he was one of the first to put self-crashing cars on our roads.

I've read that the design philosophies are very different between SpaceX and NASA.  SpaceX takes more risks in development to try new things and speed up testing.  They expect to have failures like this which is why Musk takes pride in calling them "rapid unscheduled disassembly".  But the philosophy seems to work since the Falcon 9 has been successful on 85 out of 87 launches.

NASA puts in enormous resources to ensure there are no failures during design and testing because it would affect public opinion and cut taxpayer funding.  However this leads to massive delays and cost overruns. 

capitalism works.

Total dependence on massive government subsidies is pretty much the opposite of capitalism, and rushing to launch risky products that put lives in danger is not visionary but carelessness.

Total dependence on massive government subsidies is pretty much the opposite of capitalism, and rushing to launch risky products that put lives in danger is not visionary but carelessness.

If you can startup a rocket company to reach Mars without government subsidies, I'll be your first investor and your biggest fan.

If you can startup a rocket company to reach Mars without government subsidies, I'll be your first investor and your biggest fan.

Having fans is nice, but I consider going to Mars a giant waste of money and resources that would be better spent doing stuff that directly benefits everyone like fixing our crumbling infrastructure.

Having fans is nice, but I consider going to Mars a giant waste of money and resources that would be better spent doing stuff that directly benefits everyone like fixing our crumbling infrastructure.

Maybe we'd learn how to make better infrastructure systems by going to a place like Mars? 


Many of the day-to-day materials, products and systems we enjoyed over the past few decades were direct off-shoots from the space program.


Just saying, the advancement of knowledge is always a good investment.  One day, when a planet-killing catastrophe is happening, going to a different planet may be the best way for the human race to survive.  Waiting until the need arises to figure out how would be too late.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/spacex-prototype-starship-rocket-rips-apart-massive-explosion-day-ahead-manned-launch

Not surprised, given he was one of the first to put self-crashing cars on our roads.

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fine print on the rocket engine....."hecho en chinne"

Maybe we's learn how to make better infrastructure systems by going to a place like Mars? 


Many of the day-to-day materials, products and systems we enjoyed over the past few decades were direct off-shoots from the space program.


Just saying, the advancement of knowledge is always a good investment.  One day, when a planet-killing catastrophe is happening, going to a different planet may be the best way for the human race to survive.  Waiting until the need arises to figure out how would be too late.

I am going to have to pop your bubble. We will never successfully colonize Mars or anywhere else. We cannot even make our budget work burning through the resources of this planet.

I am going to have to pop your bubble. We will never successfully colonize Mars or anywhere else. We cannot even make our budget work burning through the resources of this planet.

I think that's what the detractors claimed about going  to the moon or putting a laboratory in orbit.

Just solving the problems of keeping people alive in transit is a giant accomplishment. 

Resources were supposed to have been unable to sustain the human population beyond 1990, according to population control experts/scientists.  New technologies and discoveries have sustained an even larger population that was ever estimated to even exist. 

When we make predictions, they are based on the things we know now.  The only thing that is certain is that we don't know if we don't try.

They obviously don't have experience taking video through a window.  Needs to be darker inside than outside, or you get your own reflection!   

  New technologies and discoveries have sustained an even larger population that was ever estimated to even exist. 

When we make predictions, they are based on the things we know now.  The only thing that is certain is that we don't know if we don't try.

Industrial agriculture based on resource extraction is self destructing and will eventually fail, but we kept doing it because Ag giants made too much money and now we have crossed a threshold where there is no viable alternative and we are stuck with an inevitable die-off. We know this for certain along with all the other dire scenarios that have been warned about by the pentagon and ignored by the media, which is why we now have rich guys obsessed with making their own space program. This is not for “us” but an escape pod for wealthy elites who are getting nervous about what is happening all around us. The Capitalist Carl Sagan bullshit is a narrative they cooked up to sucker us in to paying for it with our tax money.

Industrial agriculture based on resource extraction is self destructing and will eventually fail, but we kept doing it because Ag giants made too much money and now we have crossed a threshold where there is no viable alternative and we are stuck with an inevitable die-off. We know this for certain along with all the other dire scenarios that have been warned about by the pentagon and ignored by the media, which is why we now have rich guys obsessed with making their own space program. This is not for “us” but an escape pod for wealthy elites who are getting nervous about what is happening all around us. The Capitalist Carl Sagan bullshit is a narrative they cooked up to sucker us in to paying for it with our tax money.

Maybe your vision is accurate for the next couple of generations, but look at how quickly technology has advanced since the space age was ushered in.

We've exponentially increased our technical knowledge the last 70 years.  It dwarfs the entirety of human knowledge that cane before it.

We piggybacked on the math and scientific studies of the scholars who came before, but every stepping stone has now snowballed into an avalanche of knowledge and skills.  The phones and computers we use daily would be like magic to anyone living at the turn of the 20th century or earlier.

Space flight
heart transplants
pharmaceuticals
super sonic travel
solar energy
microwave ovens
power tools
nuclear weapons
atomic energy
GPS technology
cell phones
"lasers"   

The list of technical achievements is almost endless, and there is no reason to believe the end is in sight.  In fact, I believe we have barely touched the surface of what we can eventually do.

Why does it matter who pays for exploration? I see many people decrying the tax dollars that Elon Musk gets each year to build his cars.  Yet, here you are bashing him for using his money to explore space?  Do you think the patents for his technological advances will stop the gov't from using them? 

I'm not really sure what your argument is against or for. Seems like you hate rich people using their money to build what they want, even without knowing now whether the efforts will benefit mankind or not.

Are you saying the Gov't can make better use of those funds for making our lives here more comfortable?  Screw the future generations that might need an option to colonize another place besides Earth in advance of the "dire scenarios"?

No matter how much we'd like to believe we can protect our planet, the truth is, we have limitations.  If/when the worst happens, someone -- anyone -- better have an exit strategy.

You and I won't have to deal with that, I predict.  But then, I do have kids and a grand kid to consider.