Covid-19 Quarantine and the Military (Read 10895 times)

drck1000

Re: Covid-19 Quarantine and the Military
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2020, 09:55:51 AM »
   According to my secret un-named intelligence informant, it is
the corrupt rank and file of the imperial American warhawks and the military industrial complex
in concert with the fascist American Police corruption on all levels
resorting to the use of geopolitical and military strategy
to support the illegal military invasions and erosion of
all personal rights and liberties as well as the social-economic situation
of sovereignty activists and the local minority population
who are seen as expendable
to complete the illegal invasion/overthrow of Hawaii by the fascist American empire.
 :closed:
That gave me a fcking headache. . . go in your Imperial AT-AT. . .

 :rofl:

mrgaf

Re: Covid-19 Quarantine and the Military
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2020, 10:34:43 AM »
   According to my secret un-named intelligence informant, it is
the corrupt rank and file of the imperial American warhawks and the military industrial complex
in concert with the fascist American Police corruption on all levels
resorting to the use of geopolitical and military strategy
to support the illegal military invasions and erosion of
all personal rights and liberties as well as the social-economic situation
of sovereignty activists and the local minority population
who are seen as expendable
to complete the illegal invasion/overthrow of Hawaii by the fascist American empire.
 :closed:

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Inspector

Re: Covid-19 Quarantine and the Military
« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2020, 11:27:20 AM »

to complete the illegal invasion/overthrow of Hawaii by the fascist American empire.
 :closed:
Is it “Fascist American Empire? Or is it American Fascist Empire?  :geekdanc:

 :stopjack:
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ren

Re: Covid-19 Quarantine and the Military
« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2020, 11:45:32 AM »
I'm waiting for the convoy of activist-commandeered AT-ATs with upside down flags occupying an autonomous zone walking around in circles. Perhaps Waikiki? Waikiki Autonomous Zone (WAZ)
Deeds Not Words

aieahound

Re: Covid-19 Quarantine and the Military
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2020, 03:21:01 PM »
My military neighbors who just recently moved in observed the quarantine.
Super nice people but took 14 days to meet them.

But Kuleana does have a point.
Why don’t we get the Military numbers in State?
Jeopardize National Security ?
Who the fawk is gonna invade us?

ren

Re: Covid-19 Quarantine and the Military
« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2020, 03:31:13 PM »
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Covid-19 Quarantine and the Military
« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2020, 04:30:56 PM »
My military neighbors who just recently moved in observed the quarantine.
Super nice people but took 14 days to meet them.

But Kuleana does have a point.
Why don’t we get the Military numbers in State?
Jeopardize National Security ?
Who the fawk is gonna invade us?

The information is classified, because of operational security concerns.  No "invasion risk" is required.

If a ship is 40% manned, it's operational readiness status is poor.  That kind of info is useful to anyone looking to board a ship to cause damage, gather intel, or otherwise cause problems outside of Hawaii when they know the ship can't respond.

Not rocket surgery...
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Covid-19 Quarantine and the Military
« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2020, 04:55:22 PM »
The information is classified, because of operational security concerns.  No "invasion risk" is required.
Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding!

Well, that's the issue right there.

The biggest national security concern this empire has seen in this century is Covid-19 and the need to defeat it at all costs.  Hence, the military should do their part in being transparent enough with their own inflection numbers so common folk can take their precautions, accordingly.



If a ship is 40% manned, it's operational readiness status is poor.  That kind of info is useful to anyone looking to board a ship to cause damage, gather intel, or otherwise cause problems outside of Hawaii when they know the ship can't respond.
What kind of nonsense reason is that.  The US is in the beginning stages of economic collapse, civil war, and balkanization.  What is the point of having and spending money America does not have for a military, when what they are suppose to defend may not even exist when they wake-up the next morning in some far distant land or miles at sea?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Covid-19 Quarantine and the Military
« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2020, 06:53:25 PM »
Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding!

Well, that's the issue right there.

The biggest national security concern this empire has seen in this century is Covid-19 and the need to defeat it at all costs.  Hence, the military should do their part in being transparent enough with their own inflection numbers so common folk can take their precautions, accordingly.


What kind of nonsense reason is that.  The US is in the beginning stages of economic collapse, civil war, and balkanization.  What is the point of having and spending money America does not have for a military, when what they are suppose to defend may not even exist when they wake-up the next morning in some far distant land or miles at sea?

You're basing that on your vast, in-depth military experience?   :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Covid-19 Quarantine and the Military
« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2020, 07:01:22 PM »
Status of military personnel as it relates to COVID-19 or any other situation that can affect a significant percentage of available crewmen is classified for operational concerns.

That does not mean the information is inaccessible to anyone with proper clearance, a need to know, etc.

For example, for all you/we know, the CDC is getting these figures directly from the Pentagon, perhaps with the specific names and duty assignment locations/ships redacted.  They may only be reporting aggregate totals, not case-by-case info.

The state can extrapolate that total from the known cases versus CDC-report numbers.

Just because YOU can't see the numbers doesn't mean the people who NEED to see aren't able to.  What, exactly, would you even do with those numbers?  Come up with another Anti-American, anti-Military tirade with a pinch of COVID-19 conspiracy for flavoring?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Covid-19 Quarantine and the Military
« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2020, 07:25:20 PM »
You're basing that on your vast, in-depth military experience?   :rofl:

No, but I am not as blind to what is economically and socially happening all over the continental US, as you are.   :geekdanc:

Kuleana

Re: Covid-19 Quarantine and the Military
« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2020, 07:31:32 PM »
Status of military personnel as it relates to COVID-19 or any other situation that can affect a significant percentage of available crewmen is classified for operational concerns.

That does not mean the information is inaccessible to anyone with proper clearance, a need to know, etc.

For example, for all you/we know, the CDC is getting these figures directly from the Pentagon, perhaps with the specific names and duty assignment locations/ships redacted.  They may only be reporting aggregate totals, not case-by-case info.

The state can extrapolate that total from the known cases versus CDC-report numbers.

Just because YOU can't see the numbers doesn't mean the people who NEED to see aren't able to.  What, exactly, would you even do with those numbers?  Come up with another Anti-American, anti-Military tirade with a pinch of COVID-19 conspiracy for flavoring?

So much for transparency during a pandemic...

Its people like you and the excuses you give, that is why many people in America has lost faith in its leadership.

And yes, anytime is always a good time to bash the US empire and its imperial military.  Death to the US empire and Long Live the US Republic.   :shaka:

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Covid-19 Quarantine and the Military
« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2020, 07:37:16 PM »
So much for transparency during a pandemic...

Its people like you and the excuses you give, that is why many people in America has lost faith in its leadership.

And yes, anytime is always a good time to bash the US empire and its imperial military.  Death to the US empire and Long Live the US Republic.   :shaka:

Just because there's a pandemic, you think operational and national security information is no longer important enough to protect?

 :crazy:    :crazy:    :crazy:    :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Covid-19 Quarantine and the Military
« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2020, 07:52:26 PM »
why don't you just go to the nearest military base and ask them?
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drck1000

Re: Covid-19 Quarantine and the Military
« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2020, 08:04:50 PM »
why don't you just go to the nearest military base and ask them?
I’ll set odds at 10:1 against

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Covid-19 Quarantine and the Military
« Reply #35 on: August 05, 2020, 08:16:11 PM »
Just ask a cop....

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Covid-19 Quarantine and the Military
« Reply #36 on: August 05, 2020, 08:35:29 PM »
why don't you just go to the nearest military base and ask them?

Just to get infected by the guys at the gate? 

No thanks, honesty is the still the best policy.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Covid-19 Quarantine and the Military
« Reply #37 on: August 05, 2020, 09:09:21 PM »
I know a guy in the army came back from a trip and they made him quarantine at Schofield.

aieahound

Re: Covid-19 Quarantine and the Military
« Reply #38 on: August 05, 2020, 09:41:53 PM »
The information is classified, because of operational security concerns.  No "invasion risk" is required.

If a ship is 40% manned, it's operational readiness status is poor.  That kind of info is useful to anyone looking to board a ship to cause damage, gather intel, or otherwise cause problems outside of Hawaii when they know the ship can't respond.

Not rocket surgery...

Whose anyone ?
Zee Germans ?
You think COVID is causing operational security concerns?
North Korea is gonna jack one of our ships? China? Russia? Iran? Yemen?  :wacko:
Sounds like HPD not reporting anything internal is legit.  Operational security concerns.
I forgot you have top secret clearance though.
That in itself is a scary thought.
No. I’ve never been in the military.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Covid-19 Quarantine and the Military
« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2020, 09:44:42 PM »
Whose anyone ?
Zee Germans ?
You think COVID is causing operational security concerns?
North Korea is gonna jack one of our ships?
Sounds like HPD not reporting anything internal is legit.  :wacko: Operational security concerns.
I forgot you have top secret clearance though.
That in itself is a scary thought.
No. I’ve never been in the military.

That goes without saying.  We have standards.   :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw