Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter? (Read 24645 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« on: June 20, 2020, 06:20:07 PM »
It's about destroying the history, and as a result the foundation, of the United States.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2020, 07:11:32 PM »
It's about destroying the history, and as a result the foundation, of the United States.



The people in-favor of removing statues is more about destroying the false history of the US.

ren

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2020, 07:35:40 PM »
The people in-favor of removing statues is more about destroying the false history of the US.

 ::)
Deeds Not Words

Kuleana

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2020, 08:07:04 PM »
::)

That's right.

At a lost of what to say...

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2020, 09:32:34 PM »
That's right.

At a lost of what to say...

"loss" *
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2020, 09:43:33 PM »
False history? Personally, a nation’s history may have ugly parts that may not reflect who we are today, but it’s still out history and have shaped who we are today. Yeah, there are irrational folks that choose to bury their heads in the sand and believe what they were brainwashed to believe.

Kuleana

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2020, 10:07:04 PM »
Personally, a nation’s history may have ugly parts that may not reflect who we are today, but it’s still out history and have shaped who we are today.

Really; what is America today?

The republic is gone, the races don't get along, mass civil unrest and unemployment, the rich almost owns everything, fascist police are held unaccountable, runaway national debt and deficits, both political parties don't represent the people, erosion of personal rights and liberties, and a bankrupt Covid-19 infected geopolitical-military machine still hell bent on conquering the World.

Is this the America you are talking about?

drck1000

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2020, 10:21:00 PM »
Really; what is America today?

The republic is gone, the races don't get along, mass civil unrest and unemployment, the rich almost owns everything, fascist police are held unaccountable, runaway national debt and deficits, both political parties don't represent the people, erosion of personal rights and liberties, and a bankrupt Covid-19 infected geopolitical-military machine still hell bent on conquering the World.

Is this the America you are talking about?
America today is what it is today. It’s not going to magically turn into your pipe dream vision of what it should be just because you hate America.

Personally, I think people get along just fine. It’s hateful people like you that overreact to MSM garbage that the sky is falling. Are things in a good state? No, but not the state of your irrational blathering...

ren

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2020, 10:47:27 PM »
Really; what is America today?

The republic is gone, the races don't get along, mass civil unrest and unemployment, the rich almost owns everything, fascist police are held unaccountable, runaway national debt and deficits, both political parties don't represent the people, erosion of personal rights and liberties, and a bankrupt Covid-19 infected geopolitical-military machine still hell bent on conquering the World.

Is this the America you are talking about?

well, they don't own everything  ::)....look at CHAZ / CHOP.
Deeds Not Words

Kuleana

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2020, 10:58:31 PM »
America today is what it is today. It’s not going to magically turn into your pipe dream vision of what it should be just because you hate America.
What you talking about, I loved the American republic.  I hate the American empire.



Personally, I think people get along just fine.
Talk about being blind to American history.

You must be the one who is not living in reality and in some fantasy World.



It’s hateful people like you that overreact to MSM garbage that the sky is falling. Are things in a good state? No, but not the state of your irrational blathering...
Irrational blathering to your limited view of things.

My views are not shaped by any MSM, the Democrats, Republicans, or anyone for that matter.

As a political atheist, I tell it how I see it, independent from any establishment.

Kuleana

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2020, 10:59:26 PM »
well, they don't own everything  ::)....look at CHAZ / CHOP.

Why do you mention those idiots, who really don't know what they are doing?

drck1000

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2020, 11:30:26 PM »
What you talking about, I loved the American republic.  I hate the American empire.

Talk about being blind to American history.

You must be the one who is not living in reality and in some fantasy World.

Irrational blathering to your limited view of things.

My views are not shaped by any MSM, the Democrats, Republicans, or anyone for that matter.

As a political atheist, I tell it how I see it, independent from any establishment.
I would say the ideals of the American Republic has gotten twisted and manipulated for the few at the cost of the many. American empire or imperialism? Yeah, I can see that, but you take it to the extreme.

You tell it like you see it? And you’re always right? Kuleana establishes his “position based on analysis” and that is fact. You know what you know and don’t want to be confused by fact, at least when they are counter to your personal propaganda. Talk about narrow view. You go on and on about half truths but constantly post examples only of police brutality but refuse to recognize cases of police empathy and compassion, never mind that they have a right to defend themselves.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2020, 11:34:29 PM »
Why does a certain someone have to make every topic about himself and his beliefs, regurgitating the same stuff ad nauseam?

Broken record.

You give actual BOTs a run for their title.

 :stopjack:

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

groveler

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2020, 05:06:38 AM »
It's about destroying the history, and as a result the foundation, of the United States.


Culture is what matters to me.
I dislike Black culture, as it exists today.
I dislike Liberal "Karen" culture.
That describes most Democrats.
I love America.  I despise Democrats.
That is all.

stangzilla

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2020, 06:52:41 AM »
https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

The last 4 years there have been about twice as many whites killed by police than blacks

Kuleana

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2020, 08:57:39 AM »
You tell it like you see it? And you’re always right? Kuleana establishes his “position based on analysis” and that is fact.
I never said I had all the facts like a certain someone else who likes to think he does.



You know what you know and don’t want to be confused by fact, at least when they are counter to your personal propaganda. Talk about narrow view. You go on and on about half truths but constantly post examples only of police brutality but refuse to recognize cases of police empathy and compassion, never mind that they have a right to defend themselves.

Personal propaganda? 

Police brutality is real, police corruption on all levels is real, police resorting to deadly force without being held accountable to their actions is real.  Where is the propaganda?  If there is any propaganda, it is those glorifying police actions of empathy and compassion that is already what is expected of them, in order to hide the dirty illegal secrets that many police departments share.

Isn't that what career politicians do?  Raise awareness of things that they are paid to do and make it sound like they are doing everyone a favor and get public notoriety. 

Kuleana

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2020, 09:01:17 AM »
Why does a certain someone have to make every topic about himself and his beliefs, regurgitating the same stuff ad nauseam?

Broken record.

You give actual BOTs a run for their title.

 :stopjack:

Are you talking about yourself?

I can't imagine anyone who has a more gigantic ego, who purpose in this forum is to be 100% right and try to prove everyone else 1,000% wrong.

 :stopjack:

Rocky

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2020, 09:21:22 AM »
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2020, 10:29:25 AM »
Are you talking about yourself?

I can't imagine anyone who has a more gigantic ego, who purpose in this forum is to be 100% right and try to prove everyone else 1,000% wrong.

 :stopjack:

This is my thread.  Please stop hijacking it with your off-topic personal attacks and rhetorical, repetitive BS.

Feel free to start your own thread. 

You do this all the time on thread after thread.

 :stopjack:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2020, 11:05:37 AM »
This is my thread.  Please stop hijacking it with your off-topic personal attacks and rhetorical, repetitive BS.

Feel free to start your own thread. 

You do this all the time on thread after thread.

 :stopjack:

So says the defender of the 1st Amendment.

Seems your version of free speech does not include the right of rebuttal.  Unlike you, I do not COMMAND others from sharing views that is different from my own no matter what it is.

What you want are blind patriotic stooges to mindlessly follow you down a rabbit hole and parrot your narrow views of the establishment, instead of entertaining opposing views to get a more balanced understanding of the issues, in order to really solve them.

You don't want real change because you are one of those that in your heart does not see any problem with America.  You want status quo and there lies the problem.

 :stopjack: