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Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter? (Read 24639 times)

Rocky

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #60 on: June 23, 2020, 07:49:19 AM »
Quote from: drck1000 on June 23, 2020, 06:24:58 AM
https://www.khon2.com/news/national/deputy-thanks-two-black-women-he-says-paid-for-his-meal-left-note-blm-but-so-does-yours/

The other side of that MSM doesn’t seem to cover because it doesn’t get ratings or appeal to the irrational lemmings.
Why,
What's wrong with 2 black women at Cracker Barr...
Never mind.  :oops:
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #61 on: June 23, 2020, 11:41:55 AM »
Quote from: Rocky on June 23, 2020, 07:49:19 AM
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If you've never eaten at a Cracker Barrel, you don't know what you're missing.   :thumbsup:

Next time you see one on the mainland, make an effort to stop in.

Trigger warning:  There is no SPAM or Saimin on the menu!  :rofl:

I doubt you'll find rice as well.

https://crackerbarrel.com/menu/family-meal-baskets/family-meal-baskets
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drck1000

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #62 on: June 23, 2020, 11:47:02 AM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on June 23, 2020, 11:41:55 AM
If you've never eaten at a Cracker Barrel, you don't know what you're missing.   :thumbsup:

Next time you see one on the mainland, make an effort to stop in.

Trigger warning:  There is no SPAM or Saimin on the menu!  :rofl:

I doubt you'll find rice as well.

https://crackerbarrel.com/menu/family-meal-baskets/family-meal-baskets
I have never "enjoyed" eating at a Cracka Barrel.  I've actually been interested in trying.  From my buddies in areas like TX, TN, MI, etc have all said don't bother.  They aren't foodie experts, so maybe they are just ignorant.  Haha

I'm good with "no local food" menus.  I actually enjoy the change. 
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #63 on: June 23, 2020, 12:05:10 PM »
Quote from: drck1000 on June 23, 2020, 11:47:02 AM
I have never "enjoyed" eating at a Cracka Barrel.  I've actually been interested in trying.  From my buddies in areas like TX, TN, MI, etc have all said don't bother.  They aren't foodie experts, so maybe they are just ignorant.  Haha

I'm good with "no local food" menus.  I actually enjoy the change.

I grew up eating that kind of cuisine:  Southern style.  So did most of the people growing up in that part of the country.  Cracker Barrel is like going back in time to when Grandma cooked for the whole family on Sunday.

All depends on what floats your boat.  As they say, "There's no accounting for taste."
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Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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drck1000

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #64 on: June 23, 2020, 12:10:07 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on June 23, 2020, 12:05:10 PM
I grew up eating that kind of cuisine:  Southern style.  So did most of the people growing up in that part of the country.  Cracker Barrel is like going back in time to when Grandma cooked for the whole family on Sunday.

All depends on what floats your boat.  As they say, "There's no accounting for taste."
I like southern cooking.  Or at least most of it.  Not healthy and can't eat it often, but I enjoy it.  Loved my trip to TX and roadtrip to LA for work and the food along the way. 
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Rocky

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #65 on: June 23, 2020, 12:19:26 PM »
Quote from: drck1000 on June 23, 2020, 11:47:02 AM
I have never "enjoyed" eating at a Cracka Barrel.  I've actually been interested in trying.  From my buddies in areas like TX, TN, MI, etc have all said don't bother.  They aren't foodie experts, so maybe they are just ignorant.  Haha

I'm good with "no local food" menus.  I actually enjoy the change.
Been there, done that.
Mostly "comfort food" like Grandma's Sunday dinner, but of course, there's no comparison.
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stangzilla

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #66 on: June 23, 2020, 12:47:02 PM »
not the most popular guy on YouTube but he makes some good points in this vid

its politics. 
after the elections, no matter who wins, BLM will go away for a while.  bc its primarily about politics
you cant legislate racial equality.  it has to be done with culture, and that change doesn't occur overnight

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hvybarrels

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #67 on: June 23, 2020, 01:25:20 PM »
At the moment the whole issue of actual black lives has been lost, and average Americans who were sympathetic to the cause are now completely turned off by a violent treasonous attempt by the oligarchs to make Trump look bad. I am very much looking forward to the coming investigations that will drag these deep state critters out of the swamp and into the sunlight.
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stangzilla

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #68 on: June 23, 2020, 01:37:11 PM »
I think if you are strongly pro Trump, or strongly anti-Trump, it doesn't matter wtf happens.  nothing will change your mind
BLM movement is to get the blacks and minorities to vote against Trump.  get the swing vote
most of us here already have our minds made up.  and most of the left wing people i know hate Trump and they are voting against him no matter what
its the others that dont know yet who they will vote for, that the BLM movement is hoping to swing in favor of Sleepy Joe
or even the mayoral race or governors race or any other race will benefit/not benefit from the BLM movement

its race baited politics aimed at sheep
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drck1000

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #69 on: June 23, 2020, 02:14:14 PM »
BLM in general is flat out BS.  Quoting from New Jack City, when "you're killing your own people", need to start with that first.  Not saying any particular race or ethnicity is better or worse, but that dynamic seems to stand out the most with African Americans.  The crab in the bucket analogy.  When "black culture" flaunts and embraces those who live the "thug life", but then turn around and are surprised at the repercussions of teaching the next generation to idolize those types is truly  ::)
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hvybarrels

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #70 on: June 23, 2020, 02:35:36 PM »
Quote from: drck1000 on June 23, 2020, 02:14:14 PM
BLM in general is flat out BS.  Quoting from New Jack City, when "you're killing your own people", need to start with that first.  Not saying any particular race or ethnicity is better or worse, but that dynamic seems to stand out the most with African Americans.  The crab in the bucket analogy.  When "black culture" flaunts and embraces those who live the "thug life", but then turn around and are surprised at the repercussions of teaching the next generation to idolize those types is truly  ::)

Crabs in a bucket is actually an apt analogy, but not in the way you think. In nature crabs fight but usually it is live and let live, because cruising around the ocean floor looking for snacks is a way more productive and enjoyable use of their time than clawing each other to death in a mad scramble for survival. The negative traits of the crab come out when they are in the bucket, but to say that they are terrible animals is making a value judgement based on artificial circumstances.

Systemic racism is very real, and the whole point is to create a permanent underclass which can be very useful in order to foster a divite-et-impera dynamic. Look at Kuleana and Flapp. Even if they are the same person he is living out a script that was written by the Romans over 2000 years ago. The most efficient prison is always the mind of the prisoner.
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mrgaf

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #71 on: June 23, 2020, 02:45:42 PM »
Quote from: Kuleana on June 22, 2020, 09:24:54 PM
Why don't you tell that to the guy who wants the address to my house below.
Ok this is getting ridiculous....
I would love to meet up with you over a beer or whatever and discuss things. I never intended my reply to be taken the way it was. I was actually joking. For that you have my apology. It frustrates me that there seems to be no middle ground, always a tit for tat atmosphere. My philosophy is opinions are like rectums, everybody has one. From now on I’ll agree to disagree And hopefully you’ll be able to do the same. ;)
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drck1000

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #72 on: June 23, 2020, 03:23:05 PM »
Quote from: hvybarrels on June 23, 2020, 02:35:36 PM
Crabs in a bucket is actually an apt analogy, but not in the way you think. In nature crabs fight but usually it is live and let live, because cruising around the ocean floor looking for snacks is a way more productive and enjoyable use of their time than clawing each other to death in a mad scramble for survival. The negative traits of the crab come out when they are in the bucket, but to say that they are terrible animals is making a value judgement based on artificial circumstances.

Systemic racism is very real, and the whole point is to create a permanent underclass which can be very useful in order to foster a divite-et-impera dynamic. Look at Kuleana and Flapp. Even if they are the same person he is living out a script that was written by the Romans over 2000 years ago. The most efficient prison is always the mind of the prisoner.
I didn't say, nor do I think that anyone are terrible animals. . . Yeah, your example of the artificial circumstances is actually what I was thinking about, but essentially came from examples of African American friends of mine from college and how talk about how some of their friends they seem to attack those who have risen up and made something of themselves by those who are happy to sit in the bucket and not try.  Not saying that "they" are all like that.  Michael Vick is an example of that.  But also opposite side of the coin that it's the talk about the white man always bringing the black man down.  Anyways cool that you seem to know how everyone thinks. . .

Regarding systemic racism, I do think it's real.  I just think it very much exists within a given race or ethnicity, and not just between races or ethnicity.  Just my opinion.  Just like my opinions about the reasons why the "haves" need a middle class to buffer themselves from the "permanent underclass".  Just my opinion and largely from others who have shared that, but it makes the most sense to me after my personal look at information.  Not saying i'm right and am very much open to other opinions, just that I don't spend a whole lot of time reading or researching it.   
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #73 on: June 23, 2020, 04:03:06 PM »
Left-wing SJWs:  "Police departments are an example of Socialism in the US, just like fire departments and the military.  It proves Socialism works."

Also Left-wing SJWs:  "Police only exist to protect the wealth of corporations and the top wealth-hoarders in the US. Defund Cops NOW!"
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Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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aieahound

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #74 on: June 23, 2020, 05:27:26 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on June 23, 2020, 04:03:06 PM
Left-wing SJWs:  "Police departments are an example of Socialism in the US, just like fire departments and the military.  It proves Socialism works."

Also Left-wing SJWs:  "Police only exist to protect the wealth of corporations and the top wealth-hoarders in the US. Defund Cops NOW!"

Far Right wingers: “Police departments are an example of Socialism in the U.S., just like fire departments. Defund cops now.”
Far Right Wingers: “Police only exist to protect the wealth of corporations and the top wealth-hoarders in the US. Defund Cops and just let us use private security contractors.”
Rich Left wingers: “That’ll work.”

Difference:
Right wingers of moderation:  “Alright let us carry”
Rich Left winger: “F/[|< No!”
Far Right winger: “Sh!t yeah! “
Far Left SJW: “Carry what ?”
« Last Edit: June 23, 2020, 05:38:56 PM by aieahound »
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Kuleana

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #75 on: June 23, 2020, 07:11:52 PM »
Quote from: mrgaf on June 23, 2020, 02:45:42 PM
Ok this is getting ridiculous....
I would love to meet up with you over a beer or whatever and discuss things. I never intended my reply to be taken the way it was. I was actually joking. For that you have my apology. It frustrates me that there seems to be no middle ground, always a tit for tat atmosphere. My philosophy is opinions are like rectums, everybody has one. From now on I’ll agree to disagree And hopefully you’ll be able to do the same. ;)

You have my sincerest apology.  I did not know the true meaning of your comment and I responded very immaturely.

I am embarrassed of what transpired and will never doubt your intentions ever again.   :shaka:
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #76 on: June 23, 2020, 07:16:54 PM »
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #77 on: June 23, 2020, 09:36:17 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on June 20, 2020, 06:20:07 PM
It's about destroying the history, and as a result the foundation, of the United States.



There are some statues that should be removed but in all the fervor a bunch of idiots who don't know history are showing their ignorance and destroying statues of people who furthered the cause of black rights in America.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #78 on: June 23, 2020, 10:31:52 PM »
Quote from: eyeeatingfish on June 23, 2020, 09:36:17 PM
There are some statues that should be removed but in all the fervor a bunch of idiots who don't know history are showing their ignorance and destroying statues of people who furthered the cause of black rights in America.

"Should be removed" ... because some mob decides?  Or because you think so?

The people who live in those communities should decide based on discussion and votes, not because people who don't live there think it's their job to force others to live by their beliefs.

I thought you were FOR Democracy?
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Does Black Lives Matter ... Matter?
« Reply #79 on: June 24, 2020, 12:09:22 AM »
Quote from: drck1000 on June 23, 2020, 03:23:05 PM
I didn't say, nor do I think that anyone are terrible animals. . .

Sometimes when I see someone doing a social justice freakout it makes me want to say something racist even though I do not really believe it. Not like a raging Karen n-bombing, just a little off color joke or comment to push back against a bully who cares more about forcing their will on other people than they supposedly care about the issue that got them upset in the first place.

Instead I try to remind myself that arguing with the mentally ill is pointless and cruel. They are suffering enough already and engaging them more than necessary only feeds their psychosis and makes me look like a dick.

Also there is still a real issue out there somewhere that is not being sufficiently addressed.
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