What are you observations of recovery of the firearms market recovery after the run on things due to Covid?  Are there items that you've been waiting for prices and inventory to settle back down? 

I was searching for an AR upper the past couple of days, looking for what deals for 4th of July.  PSA is one site that I used to check here and there for good deals on firearms stuff, particularly complete uppers.  They didn't have much in stock.  I checked other sites that I normally shopped at previously.  BCM, DSG, etc and seems like many of the uppers, even stripped uppers and other parts are out of stock.  I mean I don't NEED another upper, but I was looking for something simple to shoot with just irons.  I can easily shoot irons with any of my current uppers and just turn off the dot, but I wanted one with just irons to shoot and keep it simple. 

Once I started noticing magazines coming back in stock and on sale for good prices, I thought things were returning to "good".  Guess not for uppers.  Seems like ammo pricing and availability has recovered a bit after the initial craziness in April, but still not back to "good". 

As PDs get defunded and crime goes up there will be a second wave...

I've been keeping an eye out for parts these past several weeks, it's the worst now
Uppers, lowers, parts, all shortage now
Keep watching PSA website, theyll have something in stock and it'll sell out same day
I hope they are accurate with inventory
I ordered an optic that was in stock, but weeks later back ordered and they didnt even notify me
But recently I ordered a backup lower parts kit and trigger and it sent out quickly

I think the NIB sales will be dead as soon as current stock is gone, and all that will be left is the used firearms market.

Everything is either back-ordered, or being produced well under the max capacity, or not being produced at all.

So in order for things to get back to full swing and stable prices, we first have to open up the economy, and economy isn't going to open up until the covid problem is resolved either by a vaccine or cure.  In the meantime, the BLM/Hooligans problem will either get worse or be just as bad--on top of that, it's not helping the covid situation at all.

In either case, your firearms are an important commodity right now, and it's likely to keep continue growing in demand.

Let's say things don't get better--the economy doesn't open up, so nothing is getting produced nor imported. What should we do then?  I'm really sorry for the folks trying to procure a firearm.

Near at the horizon, It may get harder to get ammo than it already is.

Keep vigilant.

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We're not going to see stock return to normal until after the election at the earliest.  Add in Covid and BLM riots and your guess is as good as mine.  I traveled to WI in May.  You could still get 5.56 and 9mm from stores but at inflated prices.  I did some quick math and decided that dollar per dollar I could have WAY more fun with 5,000 rounds of 22LR, 12g, and some 50 BMG for what I would have paid for a case each of 9 and 5.56.  (There's not much more fun you can have for $2 than a can of Walmart shaving cream and a 3" 12g slug.)

I've been keeping an eye out for parts these past several weeks, it's the worst now
Uppers, lowers, parts, all shortage now
Keep watching PSA website, theyll have something in stock and it'll sell out same day
I hope they are accurate with inventory
I ordered an optic that was in stock, but weeks later back ordered and they didnt even notify me
But recently I ordered a backup lower parts kit and trigger and it sent out quickly

I haven't bought much gun stuff since the shut down started.  I got a chest rig for a new setup that I was putting together and the company that I was looking to get it from produces stuff in waves.  So I was lucky that a buddy gave me the heads up one day that stuff was in stock.  Good thing too because they were sold out again in hours.  It's crazy how fast things sell out.  Other shooting friends were looking for holsters and some lead times are 2-3 months!!!

I still occasionally check out PSA and a couple of other vendors for holiday sales.  Was just sad to see how slim pickings PSA was.  While I don't need anything, always looking out for good deals as well as "nice to haves". 

I think the NIB sales will be dead as soon as current stock is gone, and all that will be left is the used firearms market.

Everything is either back-ordered, or being produced well under the max capacity, or not being produced at all.

So in order for things to get back to full swing and stable prices, we first have to open up the economy, and economy isn't going to open up until the covid problem is resolved either by a vaccine or cure.  In the meantime, the BLM/Hooligans problem will either get worse or be just as bad--on top of that, it's not helping the covid situation at all.

In either case, your firearms are an important commodity right now, and it's likely to keep continue growing in demand.

Let's say things don't get better--the economy doesn't open up, so nothing is getting produced nor imported. What should we do then?  I'm really sorry for the folks trying to procure a firearm.

Near at the horizon, It may get harder to get ammo than it already is.

Keep vigilant.

Agreed that firearms and ammo are commodities.  I've always viewed them as valuable items in many regards.  Also feel sorry for folks trying to get firearms, particularly ones that are trying to get their first.  I've met quite a few that are in that boat.  Just bad timing as they got introduced to firearms in the Jan-Feb timeframe, before CV things heated up.  They have purchased guns and are now waiting until their appt in August. 

We're not going to see stock return to normal until after the election at the earliest.  Add in Covid and BLM riots and your guess is as good as mine.  I traveled to WI in May.  You could still get 5.56 and 9mm from stores but at inflated prices.  I did some quick math and decided that dollar per dollar I could have WAY more fun with 5,000 rounds of 22LR, 12g, and some 50 BMG for what I would have paid for a case each of 9 and 5.56.  (There's not much more fun you can have for $2 than a can of Walmart shaving cream and a 3" 12g slug.)

The cost of ammo right now is most disturbing for me.  I have a decent amount and am was planning on shooting more rest of summer and into the fall.  But this second wave is looking to be ramping up here. 

The cost of ammo right now is most disturbing for me.  I have a decent amount and am was planning on shooting more rest of summer and into the fall.  But this second wave is looking to be ramping up here.

380 was cheaper than 9mm so I used that as a opportunity to practice with my little carry guns. A Kahr p380 and a Bersa Thunder 380. Like you I’ve got a supply of stand by ammo and my range ammo. If Range Day is limited to 22LR I’ll still find a way to get some fun and some practice out of it.

I'm just trying to get FCU parts for a stripped one I bought last week, for an M18 build.  JD Supply doesn't know when they're getting any.  There's one complete on Ebay for $499, but screw that crap. That was the original price point of a P320 before the govt contract.  I'll wait it out.

380 was cheaper than 9mm so I used that as a opportunity to practice with my little carry guns. A Kahr p380 and a Bersa Thunder 380. Like you I’ve got a supply of stand by ammo and my range ammo. If Range Day is limited to 22LR I’ll still find a way to get some fun and some practice out of it.

22 is one where I wish I had more. Both guns and ammo. Particularly a scoped 22 rifle.

I actually had been thinking of thinning the herd just prior to this madness. Guns I haven’t shot in a while. I had gone full circle with expanding to different guns and calibers and then back to mainly one rifle and handgun type with more ammo for those.

I have had many friends ask me to help them buy a gun when things settle down. Will be interesting how the market looks then.

What are you observations of recovery of the firearms market recovery after the run on things due to Covid?  Are there items that you've been waiting for prices and inventory to settle back down? 

I was searching for an AR upper the past couple of days, looking for what deals for 4th of July.  PSA is one site that I used to check here and there for good deals on firearms stuff, particularly complete uppers.  They didn't have much in stock.  I checked other sites that I normally shopped at previously.  BCM, DSG, etc and seems like many of the uppers, even stripped uppers and other parts are out of stock.  I mean I don't NEED another upper, but I was looking for something simple to shoot with just irons.  I can easily shoot irons with any of my current uppers and just turn off the dot, but I wanted one with just irons to shoot and keep it simple. 

Once I started noticing magazines coming back in stock and on sale for good prices, I thought things were returning to "good".  Guess not for uppers.  Seems like ammo pricing and availability has recovered a bit after the initial craziness in April, but still not back to "good".

I think stock of AR uppers are going to be nonexistent until demand for complete ARs dissipate.   Plus manufacturers aren't running at full capacity.   A lot of sites aren't doing backorders too.

If you're a hoarder of parts and ammo, you're now saying, "see, I told you so."   

I think stock of AR uppers are going to be nonexistent until demand for complete ARs dissipate.   Plus manufacturers aren't running at full capacity.   A lot of sites aren't doing backorders too.

While the AR market is still slim, I've actually seen quite a few good (or at least decent) deals on complete guns.  I'm not interested in complete guns and have "extra" lowers.  Couldn't register a new one for months even if I did want one. . .

There are uppers that I would want in stock here and there, but they are on the pricey side.  I was looking for a budget one, which is why I went to PSA first. 

If you're a hoarder of parts and ammo, you're now saying, "see, I told you so."   

Had that conversation with some shooting friends the past few weeks.  Ma :rofl:ny with the "see, now you see why" feedback going to wives or S/O's. 

While the AR market is still slim, I've actually seen quite a few good (or at least decent) deals on complete guns.  I'm not interested in complete guns and have "extra" lowers.  Couldn't register a new one for months even if I did want one. . .

There are uppers that I would want in stock here and there, but they are on the pricey side.  I was looking for a budget one, which is why I went to PSA first.

with forward assist
https://www.armorally.com/shop/aero-precision-5-56-nato-m4e1-atlas-s-one-complete-upper/

and without
https://www.armorally.com/shop/aero-precision-5-56-nato-ar15-slick-side-atlas-s-one-slick-side-complete-upper/

bcg and charging handle not included on both uppers

with forward assist
https://www.armorally.com/shop/aero-precision-5-56-nato-m4e1-atlas-s-one-complete-upper/

and without
https://www.armorally.com/shop/aero-precision-5-56-nato-ar15-slick-side-atlas-s-one-slick-side-complete-upper/

bcg and charging handle not included on both uppers

Ahh.  Never heard of that company.  If I really needed an upper, I would be tempted. 

One good thing about PSA is that they have (or used to have) basic uppers in the $200-300 range.  I already have quality uppers, but if I could get one at a good price I was interested in a beater/KISS as a nice to have. 

I messed up my ar15 buffer tube and was looking for a replacement.  There's none in the used market and some online places are sold out.  Not sure what the market is for other AR15 parts.  In the past few months I've been buying magazines, spotting scopes, replacement springs, holsters, and putting together my belt with no problems getting those items.

Only thing I'm interested in buying is ammo once the prices come down.  I have about 4-6 months of ammo for heavy training to prep for my classes, plus a few more months of reloading supplies.  I'm hoping ammo prices come down early next year.