Hawaiians were successfully colonized, which is demonstrated by the fact that the vast majority of them are more interested in free shit from the government rather than seeking independence. Sovereignty talk is mostly used as leverage to angle for more government cheese.

As a point of legal fact, Hawaii was never a colony of the US, as was the Philippines when the US empire ironically took them over and screwed them up as well in 1898.  Indeed, the victimhood sentiment of many Native Hawaiians still pervades thanks to the denationalization education by the US empire and specific political pandering of the Democratic Party.

Although you are totally correct when indoctrinated Native Hawaiians throw around the legally ignorant use of the word sovereignty to receive more handouts and blood money from the US empire, I can assure you Hawaiians that work towards de-occupation do no such thing since sovereignty was never legally lost.

The idea that China would somehow order the restoration of the kingdom is absurd. They are more likely to use us for military/biological experimentation and sell the organs of Hawaiian activists on the black market.

I don't think so, as they will probably use the pro-US empire locals for those things first.

Wasn’t the overthrow orchestrated and perpetrated by Hawaiian Citizens ?
Backed by the U.S. but not orchestrated.

Not quite.

The illegal overthrow of Liliuokalani was planned by the American descended Hawaiian nationals and US Minister Stevens, who provided illegal military aid to those insurgents, whose events were confirmed and denounced by US President Grover Cleveland.

Yup.
Ask Hong Kong how they like Chinese rule.
Ask China how to address the TMT protest.

First of all, the issues concerning the protestors are real; however, the widespread sedition activities in HK are advised, aided, and funded by the US and the UK to destabilize China, as a whole.

Second, there is no evidence that China has interfered with the domestic affairs of Hong Kong contrary to US imperial propaganda.

Third, China does make more effective efforts to take care of their minorities, unlike the US empire as of date.

Third, China does make more effective efforts to take care of their minorities, unlike the US empire as of date.

If you mean "take care of" as in "permanently dispose of" then we agree, but if not then you and I are apparently living in different universes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/world/asia/china-xinjiang-uighur-court.html

If you mean "take care of" as in "permanently dispose of" then we agree, but if not then you and I are apparently living in different universes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/world/asia/china-xinjiang-uighur-court.html

I have been to all parts of China and have met and dealt with many of their non-Han minorities.  Life in China is not easy for anyone there for sure, but it is not the US imperial propagandistic view of Hell that its fake news outlets portray.

The same could be said for the minorities in America.  Is life Hell for them?  According to the non-minorities the answer is no, as they say those minorities all have it made.  However, in the words of the minorities, they say yes and are currently protesting and rioting on the streets to demonstrate their point.

Who is right and who is wrong?

I have been to all parts of China and have met and dealt with many of their non-Han minorities.  Life in China is not easy for anyone there for sure, but it is not the US imperial propagandistic view of Hell that its fake news outlets portray.

The same could be said for the minorities in America.  Is life Hell for them?  According to the non-minorities the answer is no, as they say those minorities all have it made.  However, in the words of the minorities, they say yes and are currently protesting and rioting on the streets to demonstrate their point.

Who is right and who is wrong?

as always, you are right and everyone else is wrong...

as always, you are right and everyone else is wrong...

Are you paraphrasing ? 

Are you paraphrasing ? 

Cliff notes:
America bad. America evil. We want a local version of CHOP / CHAZ.

Cliff notes:
America bad. America evil. We want a local version of CHOP / CHAZ.

tldr- US bad, HI restore

tldr- US bad, HI restore

He's consistent if nothing else.  He can't be shaken from his obsession. 

Worse than trying to have lunch with a vegan.  How do you know they're a vegan?  Just wait ... they'll tell you all about it!!   

He's consistent if nothing else.  He can't be shaken from his obsession. 

That does not mean much, especially from a person that fanatically supports Hawaii gun law compliance and takes pride in lecturing others how they would be in violation of the law, who choose not register their AR uppers, if they were made illegal this year.

That does not mean much, especially from a person that fanatically supports Hawaii gun law compliance and takes pride in lecturing others how they would be in violation of the law, who choose not register their AR uppers, if they were made illegal this year.

That is your incorrect, unsubstantiated opinion.       

And  does "who choose not register their AR uppers" mean?  I'm starting to think English is not your 1st language ... maybe not even in the top 3.   

Oh, and BTW ......

 






 

That is your incorrect, unsubstantiated opinion.       

And  does "who choose not register their AR uppers" mean?  I'm starting to think English is not your 1st language ... maybe not even in the top 3.   

So says his imperial majesty of personal attacks.   

So says his imperial majesty of personal attacks.   

Your mama!   

Oh, and BTW ......

 






 

I tried to do that bottom of second page and nobody took it up!
You guys are too busy fighting with each other
which was one of my points.
Enjoy your weekend.

Speaking of getting 

My real concern at this point is the kind of asymmetrical warfare that seems to have been demonstrated at the riots where piles of bricks and flammable materials were found, suggesting the sort of coordination and funding that one does not typically see from black block troglodytes living in their parents basement.

It would not surprise me one bit if this was a tit for tat response to our government’s support of the Hong Kong riots.

Also China has been caught smuggling full auto weapons into southern states recently.

 https://www.newsweek.com/129k-assault-weapon-parts-china-intercepted-us-federal-officers-1513826

It would make sense for them to fund both neo Nazis and BLM as a way of undermining Trumps re-election by sewing chaos. If that turns out to be the case then it is also likely some of our Hawaiian sovereignty activists have gotten a tap on the shoulder from CCP representatives. Thankfully most of the leaders are smart enough to realize that they can’t have their homeland back while simultaneously destroying it. But then there are the not so smart ones...

Speaking of getting 

My real concern at this point is the kind of asymmetrical warfare that seems to have been demonstrated at the riots where piles of bricks and flammable materials were found, suggesting the sort of coordination and funding that one does not typically see from black block troglodytes living in their parents basement.

It would not surprise me one bit if this was a tit for tat response to our government’s support of the Hong Kong riots.

Also China has been caught smuggling full auto weapons into southern states recently.

 https://www.newsweek.com/129k-assault-weapon-parts-china-intercepted-us-federal-officers-1513826

It would make sense for them to fund both neo Nazis and BLM as a way of undermining Trumps re-election by sewing chaos. If that turns out to be the case then it is also likely some of our Hawaiian sovereignty activists have gotten a tap on the shoulder from CCP representatives. Thankfully most of the leaders are smart enough to realize that they can’t have their homeland back while simultaneously destroying it. But then there are the not so smart ones...

Read up on 4th Generation Warfare, 4GW.
That is pretty close to what is happening now.
The part that is missing and is quite surprising
is the lack of response to it.  I know Democrat
run states and cities are EFF'ed up.
eg. If there are really are "White supremacists",
why are BLM or AntiFa leaders still alive?
Or any number of local "shakers and movers"?
I'm not trying to threaten anybody,
but one nutcase with a Barrett light 50 could clear
out the streets of Portland, Atlanta, et al.
any place where the cops are ordered to stand down.
Time will tell.

Hpd would give firearms registration freely.

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Can't we get a guy in there to delete the records in such a case?

I do have one unregistered gun though so at least I got something.

Can't we get a guy in there to delete the records in such a case?

I do have one unregistered gun though so at least I got something.

Thats very interesting. Please keep talking.

Actually I thought you are a cop since you regularly argue that  “we need to be reasonable and slowly surrender our rights in order to keep them“