I know this should go in the hunting section but there is more traffic here.

I’ve been mounting 1-4x24 Lpvo’s & red dots since shots are short on Oahu.

I’m building a grendel and some of my coworkers have been talking about going deer hunting.  So I’m thinking of getting a 2-8 or 2.5-10 scope that I’m hoping would work for both pig and deer.

As much as I would like to fantasize I’m a “hunter”, I know I’m an old lazy okole, so the Grendel will be 98% range toy, 1.9% pig hunting and 0.1% deer hunting

Would 2x or 2.5x at lowest setting be a bad idea for pig hunting?  If so, I’ll mount a red dot since I have a spare one....and it’s a bit lighter than a Lpvo too.  Won’t work well for deer but oh well.....unless they make me push/flush which I would not want to do since I’ve seen someone shoot at a pusher/flusher.



Thank you!

I know this should go in the hunting section but there is more traffic here.

I’ve been mounting 1-4x24 Lpvo’s & red dots since shots are short on Oahu.

I’m building a grendel and some of my coworkers have been talking about going deer hunting.  So I’m thinking of getting a 2-8 or 2.5-10 scope that I’m hoping would work for both pig and deer.

As much as I would like to fantasize I’m a “hunter”, I know I’m an old lazy okole, so the Grendel will be 98% range toy, 1.9% pig hunting and 0.1% deer hunting

Would 2x or 2.5x at lowest setting be a bad idea for pig hunting?  If so, I’ll mount a red dot since I have a spare one....and it’s a bit lighter than a Lpvo too.  Won’t work well for deer but oh well.....unless they make me push/flush which I would not want to do since I’ve seen someone shoot at a pusher/flusher.



Thank you!

I think it depends what kind of pigs your hunting. If its mostly brush. Id def keep the 1x with illumination. Not sure if its in your budget. but id make 2 separate rifles for the job at hand. A short handy 16-20 inch barrel for pigs, with a lpvo or red dot in grendel or whatever you want. For deer. Id want something to stretch its legs, so if i need to make a 200-400 yard shot, i feel fully capable and ethical. Id go 20-24 in mostly any full power centerfire cartridge. And id want a 2-10 or 4-16 or something similar, whatever is in your budget

You can see clearly at 30 feet (10yds) with a 2x. (Length of my house.)
7x gives you good distance.
I run 2-7x on 2 of my AR’s. A 5.56 and 7.62x39.
Never did shoot a pig though except with a bow.

30 feet is easily within archery distance for a pig.

You should ask NoScade, Hunta808, Gunguy808 or 308gunner.

Jmoto,
Your right.  If I was to ever really go hunting for deer, I should use my 7mm-08 or 30-06 Marlins....or 7mm magnum Browning

Aieahound,
Thanks!  Seems like a 2-7 may work for pig....not ideal....but I’ll be mostly using the Grendel at the range shooting against my friend’s Valkyrie :-)

Dang - I better get the 2.5-10, I want to win....

I may get a bow....4-5 my coworker’s now have bows....time to jump on the bandwagon

Jmoto,
Your right.  If I was to ever really go hunting for deer, I should use my 7mm-08 or 30-06 Marlins....or 7mm magnum Browning

Aieahound,
Thanks!  Seems like a 2-7 may work for pig....not ideal....but I’ll be mostly using the Grendel at the range shooting against my friend’s Valkyrie :-)

Dang - I better get the 2.5-10, I want to win....

I may get a bow....4-5 my coworker’s now have bows....time to jump on the bandwagon

Benefit of having rhat low range is the ease of quick follow up shots. Illumination is huge too if its near dark. Heres a boar we killed with a 22lr, i only use subsonics in my vudoo due to the lower noise profile. Building a 20 inch 300 black for subs for a dedicated hog rifle.

Nice one!!

Shooting from a tree stand?

Nice one!!

Shooting from a tree stand?

Sort of, on a platform about 40 yards away, about 30 feet high. Shot with an atacr 7-35. So high mag can work in a pinch, but i wished i had a true 1.0. The illumination was a must tho.

Damn!  7-35 on a 22lr!

Damn!  7-35 on a 22lr!

Lol yep. My vudoo setup. Nice to be able to have that high end for shooting 1.5 inch targets and it parallaxes down to like 15 yards.

That is sweet looking!

How many $$ are we looking at?

That is sweet looking!

How many $$ are we looking at?

The vudoo action plus barrel is like 1800ish and with proof carbon upgrade its an additional like 200. Foundation stock with bottom metal is like 1100ish. And atacr with arc rings is like idk 3700ish.

Convinced myself its worth it since i prob wont have to change a barrel for like 5 years plus lol.

The new tikka and bergara are great options for budgey oriented bolt 22. Esp since bergara uses rem platform and tikka uses the centerfire tikka platform.

Theres also a couple newer high end 22 actions as well coming. Like ultimatum or curtis i believe.

That is sweet looking!

How many $$ are we looking at?

Typical groups with sk match.

Damn!  I knew I should have gone into the health field!

Wow!  Is that like a 10 shot group at 100? 

Where do you buy that sk ammo?  How much?

Thanks!

Hi there!

I am bored, sitting in "quarantine" and catching up on a lot of youtube.

Anyhow, the vid i watched, Garand Thumb talked about rifle setups. I believe a 16" barrel will do both.  He has a Badger Ordnance scope mount that comes with a 45 degree mount for red dots. You can rock a primary arms 1-10x optic for scope or scope of choice,  and just rotate weapon for up close shots through a dot.  That way, you can cover up close well out to 600 yards if need be. 

I thought it was a great idea for a rifle setup, but you may prefer something else. 

 

Damn!  I knew I should have gone into the health field!

Wow!  Is that like a 10 shot group at 100? 

Where do you buy that sk ammo?  How much?

Thanks!

8 shot group at 50. Be wary of people saying their 22 can shoot 1/2 moa at 100 yards consistently, the benchrest 22 records reflect what the best of the best can do. And its roughly .3-.4 inches at 50 yards, 10 shot strings. The lapua testing facility reflects this as well.

I found the sk at prime sports. Think was like 90ish for a brick of 500. I also shoot federal gmm, had a sale at SEC for like 55 for 500. But that shoots maybe 1/4 inch worse at 50. Whatever that is worth is up to u lol. And each 22 is diff, so is each lot of 22. Which can be frustrating.

I recently shot on a farm with heavy brush, trees, weeds, just overgrown
I had 1 rifle with red dot which was a holosun 510c, other was a LPVO 1-10
it was much easier to pick up the target with the holosun bc the window view is larger than the LPVO.  with all the heavy brush keeping 2 eyes open is critical
even with the LPVO on 1x, it takes a couple tenths of a second longer to pick up the target in the brush.  with any magnification, it makes it that much harder to pick up the target quickly
i'm not a hunter, but if you are having to acquire a target quickly in heavy brush, a Eotech or Holosun would work great at shorter distances.  longer distances, more magnification might work better
i think the environment, distance, and how you are hunting play factors in the optic choice
a magnified optic with an offset red dot might be an option

Idespise - thanks for the info!  Those fancy 1x-10x scopes are probably beyond my means

Jmoto -  thanks for the info!!  I’ll get a few boxes.  If I shoot a good group I’ll post it.

Stang - When I went to kualoa with Gunguy808, he used a eotech.  He stalks instead of blocking trails and I guess he uses the eotech for quick target acquisition once he sees something.   I have a cheap primary arms red dot.  I’ll try it with buis.  I found a 7.62x39 upper so I’ll use that instead of the Grendel.  Thanks!!

Aloha Tim,

Good info has been given above!

In my honest opinion 2x is fine for pig hunting.  Like has been said much is determined by your circumstances. But even in decent brush you can use 2x. If it comes to really thick shooting where it's practically point blank you can sight down your barrel.  I've done it countless times with high hit results. Both eyes open is a huge part that many struggle with but in close in shooting it is priceless. It gives greater fields of view and the cross hair is imposed on your target due to your eye thats looking through the scope.

If you have any other questions feel free to ask.

Aloha & happy hunting!