Libertarianism and anarchy are not the same thing. Not all libertarian candidates are even that far right, some fit right in with other republicans. I don't even agree with libertarians on everything nor do I identify as one so I am not just pushing my views here.

The political spectrum has two axes: authoritarian/anarchy and capitalist/socialist. Libertarians are similar to anarchists in that they both support the absence of government.

Libertarianism and anarchy are not the same thing. Not all libertarian candidates are even that far right, some fit right in with other republicans. I don't even agree with libertarians on everything nor do I identify as one so I am not just pushing my views here.

Somehow you always use extreme arguments to try and make your point.

WE KNOW not ALL of those who identify as <insert party affiliation here> are the exact same.  That's NOT the point.  The ones running for the office ARE that far to the extreme -- and I don't place them on the right.  They are in the backfield arguing against everything the Left AND the Right are for.

And, no, I'm not saying ALL.  Just those running for office. 

This is why trying to stuff everyone into an ideological Procrustean bed is useless, frustrating, and contributes to our dangerously fractious national situation. The nice thing about libertarians is that they take a lot of pride in their imaginary rugged individualism, which makes them less susceptible to the brutal loyalty testing of the two major parties (and their corporate sponsors). Some of their members can be really annoying, but as a group they generally seem a lot less unhinged and tastelessly hostile. I like it that the majority of them are against the forever wars and other waste of taxpayer money in exchange for making our world more dangerous. It’s also nice to know there are still conservatives out there who actually fit the definition on more than just social issues.

The political spectrum has two axes: authoritarian/anarchy and capitalist/socialist. Libertarians are similar to anarchists in that they both support the absence of government.

Granted I don't go to libertarian meetings or anything but most I have chatted with don't want an absent government, they just want a smaller government.

This is why trying to stuff everyone into an ideological Procrustean bed is useless, frustrating, and contributes to our dangerously fractious national situation. The nice thing about libertarians is that they take a lot of pride in their imaginary rugged individualism, which makes them less susceptible to the brutal loyalty testing of the two major parties (and their corporate sponsors). Some of their members can be really annoying, but as a group they generally seem a lot less unhinged and tastelessly hostile. I like it that the majority of them are against the forever wars and other waste of taxpayer money in exchange for making our world more dangerous. It’s also nice to know there are still conservatives out there who actually fit the definition on more than just social issues.

Agreed. I can get behind a number of their positions but the farther right they tend to go the more they are imaging a fairytale utopia.

What shook some of his support currently (in my opinion) is the lack up in till recently not suppressing yhe riots. And while I understand is that this is a local issue not a federal issue. Most people don't understand that. Also two of Trumps largest successes the economy and have been impacted by the coronavirus. The more Trump controls these three things the better he will do in the next election.

Youre hands would be tied too, if two mega billionaires were funding  out of staters to come and start crap, members of Congress condoning it, and governors/mayors allowing it.

Jeff Sessions was the monkey wrench,