Joe Biden will take away your guns AND money (Read 8704 times)

omnigun

Re: Joe Biden will take away your guns AND money
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2020, 12:54:20 PM »
Spoken like a true blinders-wearing, low-information, "screw the country, what's in it for ME?" Millennial.

Rich from someone against mandating masks which is to help everyone.

omnigun

Re: Joe Biden will take away your guns AND money
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2020, 12:58:06 PM »
Again, you don't understand things. The people who make the products are taxed at higher rates which gets passed down to those who buy products. Guess who? You and me. It's not Rocket science.

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Its not rocket science.  I know this is the case.  But I can just not buy products.  We also have capitalism to stop that to an extent.  Lowest price wins in the end many times.  I am going to be spending more money somehow,  the national debt thanks to democrats and most recently trump is sky high and only getting higher.  Someone has to pay for that shit.  I rather those who are rich help pay more than me.  I know I have to add to the pot too. 

aletheuo137

Re: Joe Biden will take away your guns AND money
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2020, 01:01:42 PM »
Its not rocket science.  I know this is the case.  But I can just not buy products.  We also have capitalism to stop that to an extent.  Lowest price wins in the end many times.  I am going to be spending more money somehow,  the national debt thanks to democrats and most recently trump is sky high and only getting higher.  Someone has to pay for that shit.  I rather those who are rich help pay more than me.  I know I have to add to the pot too.
I guess you buy all the cheap made in China crap. Supporting the motherland

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Joe Biden will take away your guns AND money
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2020, 01:06:27 PM »
This is true up to a certain point.  The patrons of said business have to be willing to pay these new costs, else they go to another business.  Capitalism still exists.  I am not completely against the corporations part of his tax plan I do agree with that,  but I would cut all subsidies.  But that's another story.  In the end the countries debt have to be paid somehow and trump ran up the debt even more.  We have to do something in the end.

Do you realize the subsidies are under control of the CONGRESS?  Presidents can't make new law.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Joe Biden will take away your guns AND money
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2020, 01:08:39 PM »
I guess you buy all the cheap made in China crap. Supporting the motherland

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LOL if you know anything of me on this forum I hate China.   No in general, capitalism the best company tends to win, either prices, service or something that put them ahead.  They still need to earn business its not like a monopoly where they can just raise prices for no reason and everyone has no choice.

omnigun

Re: Joe Biden will take away your guns AND money
« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2020, 01:09:50 PM »
Do you realize the subsidies are under control of the CONGRESS?  Presidents can't make new law.

You do know CONGRESS helped passed his tax "reform".  They could of easily fixed more things. You cant have Trump only take credit for some things.  Does this mean Trump had nothing to do with his tax plan? It was all congress all along?

aletheuo137

Re: Joe Biden will take away your guns AND money
« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2020, 01:11:36 PM »
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LOL if you know anything of me on this forum I hate China.   No in general, capitalism the best company tends to win, either prices, service or something that put them ahead.  They still need to earn business its not like a monopoly where they can just raise prices for no reason and everyone has no choice.
Actually, I'm still learning about you. But I do know a few people like you on beliefs.

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drck1000

Re: Joe Biden will take away your guns AND money
« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2020, 01:12:06 PM »
The best company tends to win, eh?  :facepalm:

aletheuo137

Re: Joe Biden will take away your guns AND money
« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2020, 01:13:23 PM »
You do know CONGRESS helped passed his tax "reform".  They could of easily fixed more things. You cant have Trump only take credit for some things.  Does this mean Trump had nothing to do with his tax plan? It was all congress all along?
Did I miss that part in history class where the President signs it into law?

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omnigun

Re: Joe Biden will take away your guns AND money
« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2020, 01:17:05 PM »
Did I miss that part in history class where the President signs it into law?

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Do you realize the subsidies are under control of the CONGRESS?  Presidents can't make new law.

Its in reference to this....

I know how America works,  Flapp apparently doesn't so well.

changemyoil66

Re: Joe Biden will take away your guns AND money
« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2020, 01:32:03 PM »
This is true up to a certain point.  The patrons of said business have to be willing to pay these new costs, else they go to another business.  Capitalism still exists.  I am not completely against the corporations part of his tax plan I do agree with that,  but I would cut all subsidies.  But that's another story.  In the end the countries debt have to be paid somehow and trump ran up the debt even more.  We have to do something in the end.

If a nation wide tax cut is taken away or increased, then it's safe to expect that cost will increase for almost every business.  So to say that it doesn't affect you just because you didn't see a difference in your taxes is half the story.  Unless of course you do not use electricity, eat store bought food, wear store bought clothes, etc... This same "doesn't affect me" mentality is what I hear when I talk to guys at the range about the rifle mag ban.  "I don't own an AR, so doesn't affect me".  And they are actually more correct that you are because at some point in through out your week, you will buy goods from someone who had to increase their prices if a break is removed or an increase is done.

Capitalism does exist, but like I said above, a nation wide tax break removal or increase affects everyone.

changemyoil66

Re: Joe Biden will take away your guns AND money
« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2020, 01:33:35 PM »
I guess you buy all the cheap made in China crap. Supporting the motherland

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He buys an Anderson lower, then wonders why it breaks. :rofl:

changemyoil66

Re: Joe Biden will take away your guns AND money
« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2020, 01:37:26 PM »
You do know CONGRESS helped passed his tax "reform".  They could of easily fixed more things. You cant have Trump only take credit for some things.  Does this mean Trump had nothing to do with his tax plan? It was all congress all along?

It takes all sides to cooperate and reach a deal.  "Art of the Deal".  That's why the 2nd stimulus wasn't passed.  It had all kinds of rubbish in it, even more rubbish than the 1st stimulus.

House (DNC) has 1st draft choice, so they put in all kinds of shit inside.  Then Senate will say no and it got revised.  Trump probably had some say at that point also.  So the House had to revise it enough so the Senate would pass and Trump would sign.

I do think that in the 1st stim, there is lots of extras that isn't needed.  That money could have went to other areas.

omnigun

Re: Joe Biden will take away your guns AND money
« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2020, 01:39:47 PM »
If a nation wide tax cut is taken away or increased, then it's safe to expect that cost will increase for almost every business.  So to say that it doesn't affect you just because you didn't see a difference in your taxes is half the story.  Unless of course you do not use electricity, eat store bought food, wear store bought clothes, etc... This same "doesn't affect me" mentality is what I hear when I talk to guys at the range about the rifle mag ban.  "I don't own an AR, so doesn't affect me".  And they are actually more correct that you are because at some point in through out your week, you will buy goods from someone who had to increase their prices if a break is removed or an increase is done.

Capitalism does exist, but like I said above, a nation wide tax break removal or increase affects everyone.

True my bad I guess I wasn't clear.  It's going to effect everyone including  me but to what extent I would rather have the rich pay more.   Americas debt is only growing something needs to be done.  Everyone needs to pay.   Hopefully cut government spending and pay more so we can stop being in so much fucking debt.  And to that degree Trump utterly failed on that topic.

changemyoil66

Re: Joe Biden will take away your guns AND money
« Reply #34 on: November 23, 2020, 01:44:24 PM »
True my bad I guess I wasn't clear.  It's going to effect everyone including  me but to what extent I would rather have the rich pay more.   Americas debt is only growing something needs to be done.  Everyone needs to pay.   Hopefully cut government spending and pay more so we can stop being in so much fucking debt.  And to that degree Trump utterly failed on that topic.

NY tried to tax the rich and they left.  CA also doing the same.  People with millions are not stupid.  Well maybe some are, but they have smart accountants.

aletheuo137

Re: Joe Biden will take away your guns AND money
« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2020, 01:45:06 PM »
True my bad I guess I wasn't clear.  It's going to effect everyone including  me but to what extent I would rather have the rich pay more.   Americas debt is only growing something needs to be done.  Everyone needs to pay.   Hopefully cut government spending and pay more so we can stop being in so much fucking debt.  And to that degree Trump utterly failed on that topic.
Man, sometimes I think he's just in the Twilight Zone

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Joe Biden will take away your guns AND money
« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2020, 01:57:17 PM »
Its in reference to this....

I know how America works,  Flapp apparently doesn't so well.

The President can't sign imaginary bills.

Apparently, you think bills just spring from Congress without anyone proposing them, sending them to committee, passing out of committee, being voted on by the House and Senate, and THEN the President can decide to sign.

Cart before the horse.  But, let's blame Trump, because Orange Man Bad.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: Joe Biden will take away your guns AND money
« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2020, 04:14:49 PM »
Seriously!

My post got deleted again!

That’s three in the last month.
Some of my best work.
So much for Mods Moderating Moderately.

(Flapp complain about this one too so they delete it.)

aletheuo137

Re: Joe Biden will take away your guns AND money
« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2020, 04:38:08 PM »
Seriously!

My post got deleted again!

That’s three in the last month.
Some of my best work.
So much for Mods Moderating Moderately.

(Flapp complain about this one too so they delete it.)
We gotta keep you humble

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aieahound

Re: Joe Biden will take away your guns AND money
« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2020, 04:49:08 PM »