Kyle Rittenhouse Rifle Shooter in Kenosha, supine position shoots three 8-25-20 (Read 116373 times)

Kuleana

Does it matter? If I am does that throw a wrench in your entire argument?

Not at all.

However, it is always interesting to meet a Hawaiian, who rejects history and law, when it comes to this issue; just like most liberal democrats.   :shaka:

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ren

Not at all.

However, it is always interesting to meet a Hawaiian, who rejects history and law, when it comes to this issue; just like most liberal democrats.   :shaka:
like those protestors rioters that attacked Kyle Rittenhouse
 :stopjack:
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changemyoil66

Sums it up

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19pontiac79

I give the kid cred. That he didn't keep shooting the guy that had the pistol until he hit the ground.
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changemyoil66

I give the kid cred. That he didn't keep shooting the guy that had the pistol until he hit the ground.
He had no spare mags. Had to conserve ammo.

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QUIETShooter

You right, back to the Kyle topic.

A lot of people are harping on this kid because he was underage and they are quoting open carry laws in Wisconsin. Was he open carrying though? From what I understand he was protecting a buddies business. Isn’t a business an extension of the home? I mean if my little brother was carrying a rifle in my house that would be legal right? Seems he was chased off of the friends property and he carried his rifle with him to protect himself, is that considered open carrying?

I really want tho kid to be let off, I believe America needs more young men like him.

So I'm trying to understand the motivation of Kyle Rittenhouse to pack his weapon and go protect properties and businesses in another state.  Did he have a personal interest in protecting property in Kenosha?  He was protecting a buddy's property?  Where can I read about this?  I've only read about him acting on his own, not belonging to any militia group in the area.

Another area of my concern is he was reported milling in and out of the crowds in the streets at times.  Why didn't he station himself at the property(s) that he was concerned about protecting?

I also just read here that he was making a sort of sign that they use when these kids play those war type computer games.  Yeah I'm an old guy and don't understand these computer sign things.  But the worrisome part is he making those gestures as if what he just did was just a game like the ones he plays on the computer.  He just killed 2 people and he makes like its part of the game.  WTF.

Anyway, I'm 100% all in for protecting life and property during these riots against these fuckers who use the cause as an excuse to pilfer and loot.  But to act on your own trying to provide medical care yet carrying a deadly weapon and NOT having anyone to watch your back is dangerous.  Lots of loonies and crazies out there that can grab your weapon while you are trying to help someone who is hurt.

Armed and organized militias working under supervision of law enforcement can work.  But lone individuals, no matter how good the intent is dangerous. 

One other thing that bothers me is at least 2 videographers interviewed him and mentioned that they thought it was odd that this young kid was walking around and not affiliated with any militia or organization.  I would think that would raise a red flag and should be at least reported to police but I wonder if they let it go and watched the kid closely, knowing the potential of something like this happening.  I say this because of the tons of video material available when the shit hit the fan.  Like those guys were waiting for the train wreck.

Anyway, tragic and a catalyst for other young computer game rambos to follow suit in the effort to protect life and property.

My 2 cents. 
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Brystont1

So I'm trying to understand the motivation of Kyle Rittenhouse to pack his weapon and go protect properties and businesses in another state.  Did he have a personal interest in protecting property in Kenosha?  He was protecting a buddy's property?  Where can I read about this?  I've only read about him acting on his own, not belonging to any militia group in the area.

Another area of my concern is he was reported milling in and out of the crowds in the streets at times.  Why didn't he station himself at the property(s) that he was concerned about protecting?

I also just read here that he was making a sort of sign that they use when these kids play those war type computer games.  Yeah I'm an old guy and don't understand these computer sign things.  But the worrisome part is he making those gestures as if what he just did was just a game like the ones he plays on the computer.  He just killed 2 people and he makes like its part of the game.  WTF.

Anyway, I'm 100% all in for protecting life and property during these riots against these fuckers who use the cause as an excuse to pilfer and loot.  But to act on your own trying to provide medical care yet carrying a deadly weapon and NOT having anyone to watch your back is dangerous.  Lots of loonies and crazies out there that can grab your weapon while you are trying to help someone who is hurt.

Armed and organized militias working under supervision of law enforcement can work.  But lone individuals, no matter how good the intent is dangerous. 

One other thing that bothers me is at least 2 videographers interviewed him and mentioned that they thought it was odd that this young kid was walking around and not affiliated with any militia or organization.  I would think that would raise a red flag and should be at least reported to police but I wonder if they let it go and watched the kid closely, knowing the potential of something like this happening.  I say this because of the tons of video material available when the shit hit the fan.  Like those guys were waiting for the train wreck.

Anyway, tragic and a catalyst for other young computer game rambos to follow suit in the effort to protect life and property.

My 2 cents.

I’m not sure where I read he was protecting a buddies place I’ll admit up front. I don’t believe he was by himself. If you look up “civilian militia Wisconsin” on YouTube you’ll see a militia member with a helmet and I think it’s a headlight on his head. There’s another video from a live stream that show Kyle in a group with this same person. Whether that proves he was there by himself or not is for you to decide.

As for the video game thing I’m not sure what HanD gesture he’s making in that photo it isn’t really clear to me. However if you look at the various videos of him before the shooting it doesn’t look like he’s playing around or anything.

I also read somewhere he was part of a youth cadet training program so I wouldn’t really suggest he was some internet Rambo wannabe.

Kuleana

So I'm trying to understand the motivation of Kyle Rittenhouse to pack his weapon and go protect properties and businesses in another state.  Did he have a personal interest in protecting property in Kenosha?  He was protecting a buddy's property?  Where can I read about this?  I've only read about him acting on his own, not belonging to any militia group in the area.

Another area of my concern is he was reported milling in and out of the crowds in the streets at times.  Why didn't he station himself at the property(s) that he was concerned about protecting?

I also just read here that he was making a sort of sign that they use when these kids play those war type computer games.  Yeah I'm an old guy and don't understand these computer sign things.  But the worrisome part is he making those gestures as if what he just did was just a game like the ones he plays on the computer.  He just killed 2 people and he makes like its part of the game.  WTF.

Anyway, I'm 100% all in for protecting life and property during these riots against these fuckers who use the cause as an excuse to pilfer and loot.  But to act on your own trying to provide medical care yet carrying a deadly weapon and NOT having anyone to watch your back is dangerous.  Lots of loonies and crazies out there that can grab your weapon while you are trying to help someone who is hurt.

Armed and organized militias working under supervision of law enforcement can work.  But lone individuals, no matter how good the intent is dangerous. 

One other thing that bothers me is at least 2 videographers interviewed him and mentioned that they thought it was odd that this young kid was walking around and not affiliated with any militia or organization.  I would think that would raise a red flag and should be at least reported to police but I wonder if they let it go and watched the kid closely, knowing the potential of something like this happening.  I say this because of the tons of video material available when the shit hit the fan.  Like those guys were waiting for the train wreck.

Anyway, tragic and a catalyst for other young computer game rambos to follow suit in the effort to protect life and property.

My 2 cents.

Excellent Post!

What a lot of these Judge Dredd, shoot first and find excuses later types, on this forum, fail to realize is that it is easy to commend this young, unprofessionally trained or experienced in riot control, boy trying to do the job of law enforcement, WHEN it is not their own son.

I wonder how many, of these forum posters, would send their own sons, into the fray in Kenosha?  The fact that this young naive fool barely survived his near death experience, will forever, be traumatized, by the lives, of the two people he killed, for the rest, of his life.

Flapp_Jackson

All Kanaka Maoli.

Don't you have a telescope to go protest?  Or is that tantrum over now?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Don't you have a telescope to go protest?  Or is that tantrum over now?

Covid-19.

19pontiac79

Hmmmmm two types of people on this thread.  either your a fan of RoboCop, punisher, and judge dread. Or not.  :crazy: ;D

Relax it's joke :geekdanc: :shaka:

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QUIETShooter

I’m not sure where I read he was protecting a buddies place I’ll admit up front. I don’t believe he was by himself. If you look up “civilian militia Wisconsin” on YouTube you’ll see a militia member with a helmet and I think it’s a headlight on his head. There’s another video from a live stream that show Kyle in a group with this same person. Whether that proves he was there by himself or not is for you to decide.

As for the video game thing I’m not sure what HanD gesture he’s making in that photo it isn’t really clear to me. However if you look at the various videos of him before the shooting it doesn’t look like he’s playing around or anything.

I also read somewhere he was part of a youth cadet training program so I wouldn’t really suggest he was some internet Rambo wannabe.

He did show fire discipline and constraint during the confrontations.  And I apologize if I tied him with the Rambo types out there.  I meant that his actions might spur those type of people to emulate what he was trying to do.  This young man doesn't seem to be like those nut case mass shooters.

But at the young age of 17 he's bound to be screwed for life.  One of the charges against him can put him in prison for life.  Too bad.  He believed in Blue Lives Matter and supports Trump.  It's ironic and tragic that the very ones he was trying to help (law enforcement) are the ones who had to go and arrest him.

I hope more information as to what happened will come out.  What I'd like to know is how and why that initial shooting happened.  That initial situation resulted in the other two shootings as he was being chased down the street.  Why did he shoot the first protester?
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

zippz

I read in the Wisconsin laws statute 948.60 section 3 (C) says something about an exception carved out for long guns that are not short barreled. This statue pertains to minors and firearms. I took that to mean that that statue does not apply to underage people unless it’s a short barreled rifle. I’m too lazy to go and find it I could be wrong (I probably am).

I've been going through the Wisconsin laws and you may be right.  If so he is able to possess a loaded rifle on private property.  I can't find a statute on open carry on public property that says you have to be 18.  There is no open carry statute, and it's based off Wisconsin's disorderly conduct statute which doesn't state an age.

I would think someone more knowledgeable would've said something about it by now, but I haven't seen anything.

hvybarrels

Why did he shoot the first protester?

Because he was a rioter, not a protester
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

aieahound

My take on it from the videos I’ve seen.

He’s on private property when he first gets attacked. And he try’s to run but is cornered on the property and apparently domes the guy. Then runs again around the cars.
Tries to call 911 and the people who come to give the shot guy aid appear to tell him to get the hell out there.
He runs down the street towards the cops, mob chases, gets smacked from behind, trips, then gets stomped, hit with a skateboard in the head and has a gun pulled on him.
He handles his business against the aggressors, gets up and further proceeds to cops and turns himself in. Only they don’t take him.

Not in one video see him act as the aggressor. Not that it’s not out there though and I wasn’t there.

He did show fire discipline and constraint during the confrontations.  And I apologize if I tied him with the Rambo types out there.  I meant that his actions might spur those type of people to emulate what he was trying to do.  This young man doesn't seem to be like those nut case mass shooters.

But at the young age of 17 he's bound to be screwed for life.  One of the charges against him can put him in prison for life.  Too bad.  He believed in Blue Lives Matter and supports Trump.  It's ironic and tragic that the very ones he was trying to help (law enforcement) are the ones who had to go and arrest him.

I hope more information as to what happened will come out.  What I'd like to know is how and why that initial shooting happened.  That initial situation resulted in the other two shootings as he was being chased down the street.  Why did he shoot the first protester?

I agree with the above.
But yeah, what happened with the first victim that provoked his attack on this kid ?
Kid seemed mellow in the interview.
On the video, first guy seems to be straight up going after him.

Flapp_Jackson

I've been going through the Wisconsin laws and you may be right.  If so he is able to possess a loaded rifle on private property.  I can't find a statute on open carry on public property that says you have to be 18.  There is no open carry statute, and it's based off Wisconsin's disorderly conduct statute which doesn't state an age.

I would think someone more knowledgeable would've said something about it by now, but I haven't seen anything.

Based on what I read, there's a part of Wisconsin law called "Privilege".  Basically, under certain listed circumstances, such as defense against threat of personal injury or death, you can use the privileged conduct as a defense when charged with crimes pertaining to said conduct.

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/939/III/45
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

This is a long but good read that someone compiled.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/The-Kenosha-Shootings-Kyle-Rittenhouse-A-Tactical-and-Legal-Analysis-WARNING-Bandwidth-Intensive/5-2362796/

Thank you for sharing this.  Lots of information.  Seems like this tragic story starts with an armed individual that had no backup.

Because there are a lot of people out there on the protest marches that only want to stir up trouble with no intention of protesting peacefully.

Armed militias working closely with law enforcement in groups and teams work better than individuals trying to help.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Brystont1

This is a long but good read that someone compiled.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/The-Kenosha-Shootings-Kyle-Rittenhouse-A-Tactical-and-Legal-Analysis-WARNING-Bandwidth-Intensive/5-2362796/

Awesome read. Looks like the narrative that he traveled “ALL THE WAY” to Wisconsin looking for trouble seems pretty false considering he lived 20 min away.

However looks as if he’ll get dinged for his age and crossing state lines.