Kyle Rittenhouse Rifle Shooter in Kenosha, supine position shoots three 8-25-20 (Read 116142 times)

Inspector

So judge ruled kyle is allowed to carry a rifle at age 17. So theres that...

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That weapons charge down. I think that was the only one. I think everything else are self defense charges. Oh and the curfew charge.
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Inspector

Still waiting on charges for the convicted felon in possession of a handgun.....
Sorry B, don’t think that is going to happen. I hope it does, but I doubt it.

This case was brought forth by corrupt people to satisfy corrupt people. They don’t care about the real crime here.
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Heavies

Sorry B, don’t think that is going to happen. I hope it does, but I doubt it.

This case was brought forth by corrupt people to satisfy corrupt people. They don’t care about the real crime here.

Yep. :(

Brystont1

Interesting update, apparently the prosecution has a video shot that shows Kyle pointing his rifle at rosenbaum, judge allowed it in. Something about provocation that could undermine kyles entire self defense argument. We’ll see I guess.

Flapp_Jackson

That weapons charge down. I think that was the only one. I think everything else are self defense charges. Oh and the curfew charge.

The curfew charge was dropped on Tuesday.

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After the prosecution rested its case against Rittenhouse, the defense argued the
prosecution had not provided any evidence a curfew had been in place, to which
Judge Bruce Schroeder agreed.
https://dailycaller.com/2021/11/09/judge-dismisses-curfew-charge-against-kyle-rittenhouse/

Yet another fumble by the prosecutor.

The weapons charge is still being sent to the jury, unless something changed after what I watched.  The judge opened the door for an almost automatic dismissal unless the prosecution shows evidence the barrel of the AR-15 was shorter than 16". 

The prosecution tried to pull another fast one, saying that the defense did not introduce evidence that the barrel length was at least 16".  The judge agreed with the defense that one witness testified that the gun, including the length of the barrel, was not in any way illegal and it did conform to firearms laws.  While not explicitly stating the length numerically, it was a tacit statement of fact that the length must be at least 16". 

The judge told the prosecution that the burden of proof lies with them.  If they want to convict on the weapon's charge, then they have to argue against the exclusionary portion of that law: that the defendant had a short barrel rifle or shotgun.  Since they were remiss in presenting that evidence at trial, they can't require the defense to refute it.

Their argument was (1) here's what the law says, (2) one thing that can negate the exclusions is for the firearm to be illegal...specifically to be an SBR, and (3) since the defendant is the one charged under that law, it's up to him to prove the gun is not an SBR in order to establish the exclusion to the law.  Guilty unless you prove yourself innocent, even though there's no evidence it's an SBR.   :crazy:

Therefore, the instruction to the jury will pretty much be tailored to the effect that Rittenhouse's age of 17 is not an issue under the law, because he falls under two exceptions.  Unless the prosecution can prove the exceptions don't apply, then he should be found not guilty of that weapons charge. 

Even the judge said the firearm law he was charged under was ambiguous at best, and contradictory at worst.  He spent hours outside of court trying to interpret that law, as he said the prosecutor obviously had too.  If learned lawyers and judges are struggling with it, then how can they expect the layman of average intelligence and education to be able to?  If ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking them, then they better be written so that the general public can understand them.

Listening to the prosecution was painful as they trudged through the jury instructions.  The prosecution is trying to nail Jello to the wall, and so far almost nothing is sticking.

https://news.yahoo.com/judge-opens-path-jury-clear-003306793.html
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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aletheuo137

Still waiting on charges for the convicted felon in possession of a handgun.....
I wouldn't hold my breath!

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Flapp_Jackson

I wouldn't hold my breath!

My guess is, the DA is waiting to see the outcome of the Rittenhouse trial.  They don't want to be accused of malicious prosecution.  Bicep Boy is suing the state and city for $10M, and he's filed a Federal lawsuit.  If the DA doesn't have his ducks in a row better than he did during this trial, it could be argued they only charged the liar as retaliation for the lawsuits.

Once the current trial is over, and the transcript is official, everything Bicep Boy said on the stand is admissible in his own trial -- especially as it relates to "I didn't remember I had my gun," "I never told the police I was armed at the protest," "I later told the police I was armed but dropped my pistol," and "I never mentioned in my lawsuits that I was armed."  I think the DA may be looking at perjury and obstruction charges on top of illegally carrying a concealed firearm, brandishing, aggravated assault, attempted homicide and anything else the evidence from this trial supports.  They ought to be pissed at him for torpedoing their case against Rittenhouse, not that they needed any help doing that themselves!   :rofl:

He changed the reason he was running behind Rittenhouse from, "I was just following the crowd," to "I thought Rittenhouse might be an active shooter," and finally, "I was going to HELP Rittenhouse, because it looked like he was being attacked while on the ground."

Long live the revolution!   Right!!  :rofl: :rofl:
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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changemyoil66

Also prosecution states HP heads explode. Which would be illegal in HI if they did that. HRS mentions segments upon impact. So no RIPP rounds.

HPs expand, not segment.

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Flapp_Jackson

Also prosecution states HP heads explode. Which would be illegal in HI if they did that. HRS mentions segments upon impact. So no RIPP rounds.

HPs expand, not segment.

The judge actually called out Binger for that.

"Did you mean 'exploded,' or 'expanded?"

Binger then asked Rittenhouse to explain what hollow points do, and what would happen if he shot a deer with it.

Kyle said, "I wouldn't use hollow points to shoot a deer.'    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:  GENIUS!!

From the stuff they rehashed today, it sounded like they finally figured out that the ammo Kyle had loaded was not HP, but FMJ ball ammo.  Totally dismantled Binger's trip toward, "You used hollow points because they make killing someone easier, didn't you?"  So, they then argued having ammo that DIDN'T cause more damage would possibly pass through anyone he shot at, showing he was not concerned with the people behind his target.

Damned if you do, and damned if you don't. 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Makes me want to go back and watch Bicep guy’s testimony.

eyeeatingfish

Of course a prosecutor would never tell you if he were to throw a case.  The case is being presented so awfully I could almost consider that it is on purpose at this point.

It may be that he is losing so badly he is trying to cause a mistrial and try again... Anything is possible I suppose

eyeeatingfish

Playing “Call of Duty” or any first person shooting game can and will be used against you in a court of law.

BULLSH..!

But sadly, maybe it can….
Many many low information voters…many many low information jurors.

I laughed when he proudly said Rittenhouse had 300 confirmed kills, what a fricken idiot.
#1 Bitch, hold my beer, 300 is in one evening.
#2 No one says "confirmed kills" in call of duty... as if there are unconfirmed kills or something LOL

changemyoil66

2 kills can call in a UAV, so there's that.

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Inspector

@Heavies
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Inspector

Enjoy!
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changemyoil66

Bicep guy had his 2 DUI related charges dropped just days b4 his testimony.

1 for dui and 1 for refusal of sobriety test.

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changemyoil66

Now the judge is receiving threats and being called kkk and stuff like that.

All logic is out the window. This is what happens when the prosecution is corrupt and the fake news tries to make a story.

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aieahound

National Guard got put on alert according to reports.
If they go on the evidence, there’s a good possibility of civil unrest.

eyeeatingfish

Now the judge is receiving threats and being called kkk and stuff like that.

All logic is out the window. This is what happens when the prosecution is corrupt and the fake news tries to make a story.

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The news coverage has been blatantly bad, at least from the big talking punidts on TV

aieahound


Prosecutors crash and burn in Kyle Rittenhouse case, but polarized America doesn't see it
Jonathan Turley
Thu, November 11, 2021, 8:14 PM
The trial of Kyle Rittenhouse increasingly seems like a legal version of the parable of the blind men and the elephant. By only touching discrete parts of the animal, the men describe vastly different animals. In coverage of this trial, one would think that there were parallel trials occurring in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

One consensus however is emerging: Things are not going well for the prosecution.

But the reason for this developing failure depends greatly on what media you are watching other than the trial itself. It is either the product of systemic errors or systemic racism.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/prosecutors-crash-burn-kyle-rittenhouse-235048941.html