Kyle's gun must have had some sweet (i.e. expensive) sights!   

#LostWhileInEvidence

Meh. . . where's our (former) resident "I can shoot just as good w/o sights"? 

 

Kyle's gun must have had some sweet (i.e. expensive) sights!   

#LostWhileInEvidence

That specific model doesn't come with a front sight (DPMS IIRC).  What happened to the cheap $40 rear sight, probably got lost in evidence.

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Googled and looks like no rear sight too that it comes with. But he did have an optic on it. So someone got a new optic.

No kidding. . . lack of awarness and respect for firearms. . .

At gun shows, I see ARs with a zip tie running through the ejection port then down out the magwell.  Keeps the bolt from seating when forward.

I guess all those Cops handling the evidence don't have much experience with guns and gun safety.  If they simply used a chamber flag, it would make a world of difference as they pass the gun from person to person.

Pointing at the jury?  Who taught him about guns?  Alec Baldwin?   

He should be sanctioned for not following the basic tenets of gun safety. 

That specific model doesn't come with a front sight (DPMS IIRC).  What happened to the cheap $40 rear sight, probably got lost in evidence.

According to Rittenhouse and Dominick Black, the one who bought the rifle for him, Kyle took the gun out shooting on occasion.  I have to imagine that would have demonstrated a need for some kind of sights or optics, because he probably missed more than he landed on target.

If Kyle didn't see a need for BUIS or an optic in Kenosha, that's a  problem.  He should not have been carrying a rifle to defend others & their property if he had no means of accurately aiming it. 

Just saying.

He should be sanctioned for not following the basic tenets of gun safety. 

In some jurisdictions, simply pointing a gun at someone, loaded or unloaded, is assault.  The other person doesn't know the gun is unloaded, with or without a magazine being visible.

But, like most Liberals in higher office or as members of the media, nothing will happen.

He had some type of optic on it.
At the ranges he was at, he didn’t need it.
They were commin’ in hot.

Re. attorney:
That would’ve scared the crap out of me.
Good thing nobody rushed him, proving “provocation”.
Would’ve been kinda funny though if the gallery noticed and rushed him….

Here's a photo from that night.  Optic was present.  Wonder why it's not attached now?  Isn't that a problem with the evidentiary nature of having the rifle in court in the first place?

The weapon had an optic.  Now it's not there.  Functionally, it's not the same rifle as it was on the night in question.

Same as showing the jury any item that's been changed/modified from when it was recovered.  It makes identification by witnesses harder if nothing else.

Imagine if the defense checks the rifle and discovers the serial number doesn't match Kyle's rifle....  The prosecution was having people testify about a different gun, which could toss out a lot of testimony.   
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Okay, so now I'm thinking .... maybe Kyle removed the optic himself before turning himself in.  He had the weapon for a long time before going to his local police station.  Maybe he or someone else decided they shouldn't risk a nice optic getting lost or damaged while in police custody.  Maybe the optic wasn't even his?  He could have borrowed it, and wanted to give it back to the owner.

If I were the prosecutor, I would have raised and answered that question at trial, just to make sure everything they knew about the weapon was presented to the jury no matter how much or little it impacted the events.

i've seen reports that the rifle is not in evidence
but i cannot see how that would be considering it's a murder case...

Looks like I’m eatin’ crow on the underage possession charge.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rittenhouse-judge-dismisses-underage-weapons-charge-in-murder-trial-182449573.html

Looks like I’m eatin’ crow on the underage possession charge.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rittenhouse-judge-dismisses-underage-weapons-charge-in-murder-trial-182449573.html

At least you can admit it.

At least you can admit it.

still not wrong...

Kenosha Prosecutor Thomas Binger Raises Rittenhouse’s Firearm, Points it at People in Courtroom with Finger on Trigger

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/kenosha-prosecutor-thomas-binger-raises-rittenhouses-firearm-points-people-courtroom-finger-trigger/

Closing arguments began Monday morning in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Kenosha County Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger said Rittenhouse “provoked other people” simply because he was carrying a firearm in his closing argument to the court Monday.

After lecturing Rittenhouse on gun safety, Binger raised Rittenhouse’s firearm and pointed it at people in the courtroom with his finger on the trigger.
Insane.


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At least Chris Lee only used finger guns when attempting to terrify his colleagues during the last mag ban hearing.

Looks like I’m eatin’ crow on the underage possession charge.

SNIP

And. . . how does it taste?  Need any mustard?   

Just talkin' $hit.  I wasn't really following the discussion.   

At least Chris Lee only used finger guns when attempting to terrify his colleagues during the last mag ban hearing.

I liked the comment: Wow Who does Binger think he is, Alec Baldwin?

Enjoy!

Enjoy!

Are they the puppet masters?

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Are they the puppet masters?

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It’s from a TV show where one guy is challenged to do whatever the other 3 guys tell him to do. He has an earpiece so they can tell him what to do real-time. They make a bet so if he doesn’t do what they say he owes them the bet. But if he succeeds then they pay him. They really try and make him do and say some really outrageous things.

REPORT: KENOSHA DA KNEW RITTENHOUSE TRIAL WAS A LOSER, THAT'S WHY THEY DUMPED IT ON THOMAS BINGER

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/thomas-binger-closing-ritteenhouse-trial

Kenosha Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger presented his closing arguments on Monday, where Binger pointed a gun at the jury with his finger on the trigger. This was after he claimed you have no right to self-defense if your gun is bigger than the one someone is about to shoot you with.

It was another example of Binger not exhibiting knowledge of how the law works. It makes an observer wonder how he became the lead prosecutor in such an important case. It turns out that his boss, who would normally take the lead, knew the case was a losing one. He needed to dump it off on someone. That someone was Thomas Binger.

According to the Daily Mail, who brought us the unhinged threats against Judge Schroeder, Kenosha district attorney Mike Graveley is a "superstar" with a rising political career. Normally, the DA would have taken a case of this magnitude. The rub is, Graveley viewed this case as a "losing proposition." Losing this case would be sure to tarnish his reputation. So Graveley, quote, "pawned the case off to his unfortunate assistant district attorney."
Daily Mail also had an interesting note about Binger. That thing he does where he ignores the law and/or pretends not to know who the law is or how it works? That's his style. According to Kevin Mathewson, a criminal defense investigator and former Kenosha City alderman, Binger has "said things in court that have been ruled out of order, but once they have been said, you can't unring that bell."


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REPORT: KENOSHA DA KNEW RITTENHOUSE TRIAL WAS A LOSER, THAT'S WHY THEY DUMPED IT ON THOMAS BINGER

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/thomas-binger-closing-ritteenhouse-trial

Kenosha Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger presented his closing arguments on Monday, where Binger pointed a gun at the jury with his finger on the trigger. This was after he claimed you have no right to self-defense if your gun is bigger than the one someone is about to shoot you with.

It was another example of Binger not exhibiting knowledge of how the law works. It makes an observer wonder how he became the lead prosecutor in such an important case. It turns out that his boss, who would normally take the lead, knew the case was a losing one. He needed to dump it off on someone. That someone was Thomas Binger.

According to the Daily Mail, who brought us the unhinged threats against Judge Schroeder, Kenosha district attorney Mike Graveley is a "superstar" with a rising political career. Normally, the DA would have taken a case of this magnitude. The rub is, Graveley viewed this case as a "losing proposition." Losing this case would be sure to tarnish his reputation. So Graveley, quote, "pawned the case off to his unfortunate assistant district attorney."
Daily Mail also had an interesting note about Binger. That thing he does where he ignores the law and/or pretends not to know who the law is or how it works? That's his style. According to Kevin Mathewson, a criminal defense investigator and former Kenosha City alderman, Binger has "said things in court that have been ruled out of order, but once they have been said, you can't unring that bell."


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Wow! I gave too much credit to the prosecutor. I thought he was a smart man who knew he was going to lose so he was trying to get the case thrown out. But I guess it turns out now that the prosecutor is really just that stupid.