For khs rifle range - Anyone use steel hangers for their 2 hole gongs?  (Instead of chains)

(Hanger is a hook With a 1” hole at the top for use with a 1” or smaller cross bar.  2 hooks per gong)

I was thinking I’ll Try to use pieces of pvc on a 3/4” cross bar to spread the hooks apart so they come down at a 45 degree angle but not really sure I’ll be able to get that angle.....so may still need to incorporate chains to Get a 45 degree Angle

I heard a great material is used fire hose because it can take multiple hits and still function. I was going to try inner tubes next time since I have some old ones laying around.

i use reinforced rubber straps. got them from Security equipment,  they work well and dont break when shot.

I use S-Hooks -- 2 different sizes. 

You can add as many hooks as needed to allow the targets to swing freely, and they are easy to replace if one jumps in front of a bullet. 

Can close or open the ends with pliers or vice grips.

I add nuts, bolts and washers through the target's hang-up holes to connect hooks to the backs of the steel plates.  That causes the face of the plates to hang at a slight angle -- good for deflecting material toward the ground.

Fire hose 

Hvybarrel - A while back Mitch the ro mentioned there was a bunch of fire hose by the ro’s station but I didn’t grab any at the time.  I assume it’s all gone by now.

I heard of using inner tubes but I don’t have any.

Raudi - how much are those straps?

Flapp -  that’s an interesting method.  I may try that.

What are you folks using for the cross bar?  2x4? Or 1” emt conduit?

I have an old set up using a 2x4 as the cross bar and chains to hold the gongs....I haven’t used it in a while.  I’m thinking using an emt cross bar and the hangers will make set up and take down easier at the range

Hvybarrel - A while back Mitch the ro mentioned there was a bunch of fire hose by the ro’s station but I didn’t grab any at the time.  I assume it’s all gone by now.

I heard of using inner tubes but I don’t have any.

Raudi - how much are those straps?

Flapp -  that’s an interesting method.  I may try that.

What are you folks using for the cross bar?  2x4? Or 1” emt conduit?

I have an old set up using a 2x4 as the cross bar and chains to hold the gongs....I haven’t used it in a while.  I’m thinking using an emt cross bar and the hangers will make set up and take down easier at the range

I use a regular KHSC-designed rifle target frame.  2"x2" lumber with both paper and steel hanging on it. 

Make sure to attach the chain/hose/inner tube to the FRONT SIDE of the frame.  If using wood, you want the target to be in front of the frame so the splatter of bullet fragments deflect before reaching the frame.  If you make the targets hang in the center or behind the frame, the splatter will destroy the frame relatively quickly.  I put the horizontal cross piece at the top in front to push the targets forward, then attach to the front of that  piece. 

I try to avoid metal in my target frames.  Just another part of the target that could cause problems by deflecting a stray fragment.

The splatter zone is about 20 degrees mostly down/left/right.  So, not only do you want to protect the frame, but you also want to avoid hanging targets in each other's splatter zone.  Stagger them or use another frame so the fragments aren't hitting other steel targets and changing direction.

I hang 2-3, depending on size, above/below each other, then add cardboard at the bottom to attach paper targets.

This was my first frame after one range day with the targets hanging in the center of the frame's legs.  I was using a combination of hardware, but switched to mainly S-hooks for a custom length.  I also moved the top bar to the front.  The legs barely get any "shrapnel" now!   

This frame was brand new before using it one time:

I used galvanized plumbing pipe to make my frame
Use chains with hose clamps to secure chains to frame
It has lasted for a few years. Brought it to my friends farm, shot it with 50bmg and broke the 10x1/2 inch plate, but the frame is still going strong
I donated that to the farm for permanent use there and recently got a frame on Ebay for 60 bucks, going to try that out
I'm also going to buy these connectors to use 2x4's. Even cheaper option. See how that goes

Flapp - thanks for the heads up.  Like Stang, I use (4)  thick heavy galv pipes to hold my cross bar.   Looks similar to a saw horse.  Due to the weight of everything, I only used it like twice. 

Your set up gave me an idea.  I have a steel target stand from Fabtek that has a holder for a wood stand.  I can make a cross bar with a 2x4 or 2x2 and install 2x2 “legs” on it and drop it into the holders on the steel stand

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-8-AR500-Steel-Shooting-Target-Conduit-T-Post-Pipe-Stand-2-Mounts-8-Hooks/254342774097?hash=item3b3802bd51:g:n9kAAOSwebVefOyk

See pic 3.   Seen anyone using similar at the range?  Just hooks.....hanging straight down

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-8-AR500-Steel-Shooting-Target-Conduit-T-Post-Pipe-Stand-2-Mounts-8-Hooks/254342774097?hash=item3b3802bd51:g:n9kAAOSwebVefOyk

See pic 3.   Seen anyone using similar at the range?  Just hooks.....hanging straight down

If you're looking for professional grade that withstands lots of hits during competition, that looks like a good product.

At $60, I can buy a ton of S-hooks.

I'd wonder if the targets get knocked off the hooks with a descent hit using something bigger than .22.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Big-Ding-XL-AR500-Target-1-Pipe-Stand-2-Brackets-8-6-Hooks/124284390290

I’m looking at this one that is beefier.  My friends shoot like me.....terrible. 

My existing stand from Fabtek has been hit a lot

One friend was aiming at the gong near where the pin Goes thru the sleeve of the gong.  He broke the weld and sent my gong spinning into the back stop.  Luckily his Friend rewelded the gong To the sleeve


Sorry for going on a tangent.  Anyway, using a hook and steel pipe cross arm setup seems a lot faster to set up and break down compared  to using a chain.  And I’m hoping it will be more bullet proof

https://www.ebay.com/itm/AR500-2-Gong-Stand-Kit-for-2x4-W-Hooks/263881890067?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649


i'm going to use this setup on my friends farm.  uses 2x4's. comes with hooks to go around the 2x4.  I also have 4 pistol plates to use with the single hole on top
going to shoot at 10-15 yards with handgun
i'll try make it wide enough so the shrapnel doesn't hit it too much

https://www.ebay.com/itm/AR500-2-Gong-Stand-Kit-for-2x4-W-Hooks/263881890067?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649


i'm going to use this setup on my friends farm.  uses 2x4's. comes with hooks to go around the 2x4.  I also have 4 pistol plates to use with the single hole on top
going to shoot at 10-15 yards with handgun
i'll try make it wide enough so the shrapnel doesn't hit it too much

If you really want a challenge. buy those $60 target hangers and forego the targets.  Shooting at the hangers will be better for precision, and the AR500 material will withstand the (few?) hits they receive!

Cheaper than the metal targets, too!


 

If you really want a challenge. buy those $60 target hangers and forego the targets.  Shooting at the hangers will be better for precision, and the AR500 material will withstand the (few?) hits they receive!

Cheaper than the metal targets, too!


 

I might try that on my next purchase
The targets that I ordered are 1/4 inch x 3, 4, 5, and 6 inch diameters. We'll test those out first and upgrade from there. 

Hvybarrel - A while back Mitch the ro mentioned there was a bunch of fire hose by the ro’s station but I didn’t grab any at the time.  I assume it’s all gone by now.

I heard of using inner tubes but I don’t have any.

Raudi - how much are those straps?

Flapp -  that’s an interesting method.  I may try that.

What are you folks using for the cross bar?  2x4? Or 1” emt conduit?

I have an old set up using a 2x4 as the cross bar and chains to hold the gongs....I haven’t used it in a while.  I’m thinking using an emt cross bar and the hangers will make set up and take down easier at the range

$15 i think

This has been my set up for the past year. I cut up 10' metal conduit into 3 40" sections (x2). One conduit goes through the eyelets and four used as legs. The screw in the middle keeps the gongs separate from each other.



I've used chain, hooks, and rubber tire strips. The problem with using bolts is they're a PITA to undo after the threads have been wacked around a bit. Gongs are like bells; they go thud after they've been cracked.