Justice Ginsberg passed away at 87 (Read 80418 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Justice Ginsberg passed away at 87
« Reply #240 on: October 01, 2020, 04:48:03 PM »
So how did Roe v.Wade get passed ?
Liberal Activist Judges on the Supreme Court? ( Totally different from Partisan.)
You still on technical discombobulation do distract people ?
You must have been an English major ( if you went to college) as you’re always on this grammar and comprehension crap.

You must have been at the beach during 12 years of English class.  So far, you've provided little evidence to the contrary.   :wacko:

I'm not about to waste hours posting links to the massive volume of scholarly writings and legal opinions re: Roe v Wade. 

Even the woman who was "Roe" said she wished the Supreme Court had never ruled in her favor.

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Norma McCorvey, the plaintiff in the case that legalized abortion for women, has confessed in innumerable interviews and
speaking events that she never had an abortion and that her pregnancy was not a product of rape as she had claimed in the
case. The then mother of two gave her third child the gift of adoption.

“McCorvey had made one trip to an illegal abortion clinic in Dallas that had been shut down. But now, McCorvey says she
wouldn’t have had an abortion, anyway, because she was too far along in her pregnancy. “I can honestly say no, I wouldn’t
have,” she said.

Norma McCorvey wrote in her first book, I Am Roe, that she in fact was not pregnant by rape like she had first said. That was a
lie. She said she had invented the rape story in an attempt to make a stronger case for an abortion.

In 1995, Norma McCorvey declared herself pro-life.

Norma McCorvey publicly committed her life to ‘serving the Lord and helping women save babies.’ She accepted a new job at
Operation Rescue as a computer operator and was welcomed into the pro-life community. Since that time, McCorvey published
“Won By Love” in January of 2003, sharing her true story and accounts of changing her position from pro-choice to pro-life.

In short, Lawyers who lied and activist judges who wanted to legislate from the bench as the House and Senate had been Constitutionally constrained is how the law passed.

https://www.liveaction.org/news/7-things-didnt-know-jane-roe-roe-v-wade/

https://nypost.com/2018/07/06/why-roe-v-wade-is-a-travesty-of-constitutional-law/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Justice Ginsberg passed away at 87
« Reply #241 on: October 01, 2020, 04:50:29 PM »
1) How do people read the same words differently?  I mean they read the same words, but the meaning they take away from the same words can be very different.  I can tell you 100% in my heart that religion does NOT lean my professional decisions.  Can others?  I would think so.  I just am not so quick to judge and dismiss based on my feewings. . .

2) The code I am referring to often times is legal language.  Some codes become legal requirements, some remain recommendations.  Not sure what you are getting at WRT plausible argument.  My point was that engineers often apply judgement to words in code and how to interpret.  It's not an issue if it's to code or not.  The issue usually is how a designer goes about trying to meet the code.  See, stuff like building code and such intentionally leaves certain areas up to interpretation and the expectation is that licensed engineers have the discipline to apply proper judgement.  While not lofty status, I don't consider SCOTUS that different. 

3) Now that, is important.   :thumbsup:

Your Boss/job instructs you to engineer a better abortion machine would you?  So that women can more easily access their right to abort.  Nothing legally is stopping you fyi. With your religious conviction (I assume its against abortion) would you do your job?
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omnigun

Re: Justice Ginsberg passed away at 87
« Reply #242 on: October 01, 2020, 04:52:24 PM »
Explain that conclusion ....

If you can.

Who said civilians can't own those weapons systems?



Can we buy nerve gas or nukes?

omnigun

Re: Justice Ginsberg passed away at 87
« Reply #243 on: October 01, 2020, 04:54:29 PM »
I totally get what the 2A is about.
And my posts support that.
As have my actions. (More than I can say for you Flapp.)
But you keep posting stuff that pokes holes In it.
I’m just reluctantly pointing that out.

You say stupid stuff and have no reply’s to rebuttals and that’s dangerous for our 2A community

P.S. RobDmc unfortunately can’t see this because he censored me.  :wave:

Flapp is just used to being a trump, screaming at someone else on why hes always right and everything is how he thinks it is.  Then gas lighting anyone who disagrees.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Justice Ginsberg passed away at 87
« Reply #244 on: October 01, 2020, 05:05:38 PM »
Can we buy nerve gas or nukes?

Look up the definition of arms as they relate to the 2nd amendment.

Nerve gas is illegal internationally.  It is a weapon that falls under the category of Chemical Weapons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_Weapons_Convention

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The Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) is an arms control treaty that outlaws the production, stockpiling, and use of chemical weapons and their precursors. The full name of the treaty is the Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production, Stockpiling and Use of Chemical Weapons and on their Destruction and it is administered by the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), an intergovernmental organization based in The Hague, The Netherlands. The treaty entered into force on 29 April 1997. The Chemical Weapons Convention prohibits the large-scale use, development, production, stockpiling and transfer of chemical weapons. Very limited production for research, medical, pharmaceutical or protective purposes is still permitted. The main obligation of member states under the convention is to effect this prohibition, as well as the destruction of all current chemical weapons. All destruction activities must take place under OPCW verification.

As of May 2018, 193 states have become parties to the CWC and accept its obligations. Israel has signed but not ratified the agreement, while three other UN member states (Egypt, North Korea and South Sudan) have neither signed nor acceded to the treaty.[1][5] Most recently, the State of Palestine deposited its instrument of accession to the CWC on 17 May 2018. In September 2013 Syria acceded to the convention as part of an agreement for the destruction of Syria's chemical weapons.[6][7]

As of November 2018, 96.62% of the world's declared chemical weapons stockpiles had been destroyed.[8] The convention has provisions for systematic evaluation of chemical production facilities, as well as for investigations of allegations of use and production of chemical weapons based on intelligence of other state parties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_Weapons_Convention

Nuclear, chemical and biological weapons are classes of WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.  They have no legitimate tactical purpose other than to wipe out everyone in an area indiscriminately -- combatants and noncombatants alike.

Arms, according to recent court rulings include that which a modern military infantryman might carry into battle.

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In the 1939 case U.S. v. Miller, the Supreme Court held that the Second Amendment protected those arms that would be useful to a citizen’s militia in a military engagement. The court held that the Second Amendment did not protect short-barrelled shotguns, but the decision seems to imply that machineguns, rocket launchers and antitank rifles would be protected.

U.S. v. Heller redefined the meaning of “arms” in the Second Amendment. The decision held that the Second Amendment protected all firearms “commonly is use,” but not those that were “dangerous or unusual” without defining those terms.

In U.S. v. McDonald, the Supreme Court subsequently held that the Second Amendment was a Fundamental Right and was incorporated onto the states by the 14th Amendment.

https://www.quora.com/Is-the-word-arms-in-the-Second-Amendment-defined-somewhere?share=1

You would not carry ("keep and bear") WMDs.  They normally require a delivery and dispersal system, meaning the target is far enough away from you, you have options available with which you can defend and protect yourself.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Justice Ginsberg passed away at 87
« Reply #245 on: October 01, 2020, 05:06:07 PM »
Flapp is just used to being a trump, screaming at someone else on why hes always right and everything is how he thinks it is.  Then gas lighting anyone who disagrees.

And you have no idea what you're talking about.

Ever.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Justice Ginsberg passed away at 87
« Reply #246 on: October 01, 2020, 05:06:45 PM »
If you had to engineer a better abortion machine would you?  Nothing legally is stopping you fyi.
Are you attempting to make a connection to support your argument on ACB? Not even close to being analogy worthy btw.

To answer your question, no I would not. First, no such thing. Second, there are other things to guide one’s actions than the legality of something. Third, my religious beliefs would have zero impact on my decision.

Nice try WLB... 


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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Justice Ginsberg passed away at 87
« Reply #247 on: October 01, 2020, 05:10:24 PM »
Are you attempting to make a connection to support your argument on ACB? Not even close to being analogy worthy btw.

To answer your question, no I would not. First, no such thing. Second, there are other things to guide one’s actions than the legality of something. Third, my religious beliefs would have zero impact on my decision.

Nice try WLB... 

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I wonder if Google will offer him a clue on that one?   :popcorn:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Justice Ginsberg passed away at 87
« Reply #248 on: October 01, 2020, 05:11:22 PM »
Your Boss/job instructs you to engineer a better abortion machine would you?  So that women can more easily access their right to abort.  Nothing legally is stopping you fyi. With your religious conviction (I assume its against abortion) would you do your job?
You assume? Bwahahahaha

:facepalm:

I am against people who approach life like they know it all from a position of ignorance.


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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Justice Ginsberg passed away at 87
« Reply #249 on: October 01, 2020, 05:14:26 PM »
Flapp is just used to being a trump, screaming at someone else on why hes always right and everything is how he thinks it is.  Then gas lighting anyone who disagrees.

It's not that I'm always right.

It's just that you and AssHole are always WRONG!

This is not about opinions, and how you have some right to your own -- no matter how stupid and illogical it is.

It's about you being able to make your case without resorting to whining, insults and statements totally void of substance.

You have beliefs, pure and simple.  Without facts and supportive information, you're no better than a blind follower of a cult religion.

'Nother glass o' KoolAid, Brother?

« Last Edit: October 01, 2020, 05:38:06 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

robtmc

Re: Justice Ginsberg passed away at 87
« Reply #250 on: October 01, 2020, 05:54:13 PM »
It's just that you and AssHole are always WRONG!
Yeah, about time to add to my ignore list.

You have beliefs, pure and simple.  Without facts and supportive information, you're no better than a blind follower of a cult religion.
I'm sure all his facef*ck and twit groups, or whatever it is they do all day on their iFags, are fully supportive and give helpful suggestions how to fight those evil conservatives.

omnigun

Re: Justice Ginsberg passed away at 87
« Reply #251 on: October 01, 2020, 08:20:01 PM »
You assume? Bwahahahaha

:facepalm:

I am against people who approach life like they know it all from a position of ignorance.


Are you attempting to make a connection to support your argument on ACB? Not even close to being analogy worthy btw.

To answer your question, no I would not. First, no such thing. Second, there are other things to guide one’s actions than the legality of something. Third, my religious beliefs would have zero impact on my decision.

Nice try WLB... 


Wait....why does it not apply?  I work with computers if my boss wanted me to program a machine that does [insert] with abortion, because I have no religious commandments stopping me I don't see why I would not listen and do that program.    You literally spelt out religious bias.  Just does it magically not apply for judges?

I don't pretend to know everything but I also don't shove my head into a hole like ostrich and blindly follow.  I try think objectively from both sides.  Even if that side is one I don't agree with. I am only human in the end though, I make mistakes.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Justice Ginsberg passed away at 87
« Reply #252 on: October 01, 2020, 08:42:07 PM »
Wait....why does it not apply?  I work with computers if my boss wanted me to program a machine that does [insert] with abortion, because I have no religious commandments stopping me I don't see why I would not listen and do that program.    You literally spelt out religious bias.  Just does it magically not apply for judges?

I don't pretend to know everything but I also don't shove my head into a hole like ostrich and blindly follow.  I try think objectively from both sides.  Even if that side is one I don't agree with. I am only human in the end though, I make mistakes.

The difference, since you need to have it pointed out, is that you have a choice.  You can ask the boss to assign that project to someone else,   You can look for other employment.  Or you can do as instructed. 

Free will.

There's nothing magic about someone taking a commitment (Oath of Office, wedding vows, and so on) seriously.  As a judge, her oath comes before her personal beliefs.  I'm sure most times there is no conflict.  Only in cases where she might have to consider murdering a human being would it likely ever be an issue.

To believe that she is incapable of executing the duties of her office without conflict tells me that you've never made a commitment to anyone or anything that you value above your own hedonistic desires and beliefs.

Not everyone is like you.  Liberals always tend to think we are all the same.

"We need to ban all guns.  I know I can't be trusted with one, especially knowing how uncontrollably pissed I get from road rage.  Also, I really don't like guns enough to take the time I'd need to become a safe gun owner.

if I can't be trusted, then it's logical that everyone else can't be trusted, either.."

I believe the clinical term is "projection."

p.s. You literally "spelt" "spelled" wrong.  "Spelt" is a type of wheat.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Justice Ginsberg passed away at 87
« Reply #253 on: October 01, 2020, 09:21:27 PM »
Wait....why does it not apply?  I work with computers if my boss wanted me to program a machine that does [insert] with abortion, because I have no religious commandments stopping me I don't see why I would not listen and do that program.    You literally spelt out religious bias.  Just does it magically not apply for judges?

I don't pretend to know everything but I also don't shove my head into a hole like ostrich and blindly follow.  I try think objectively from both sides.  Even if that side is one I don't agree with. I am only human in the end though, I make mistakes.
Did
I
Say
It
Does
Not
Apply?

Damn...

omnigun

Re: Justice Ginsberg passed away at 87
« Reply #254 on: October 01, 2020, 10:35:22 PM »
Are you attempting to make a connection to support your argument on ACB? Not even close to being analogy worthy btw.

To answer your question, no I would not. First, no such thing. Second, there are other things to guide one’s actions than the legality of something. Third, my religious beliefs would have zero impact on my decision.

Nice try WLB... 


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Did
I
Say
It
Does
Not
Apply?

Damn...

drck1000

Re: Justice Ginsberg passed away at 87
« Reply #255 on: October 02, 2020, 01:50:26 AM »

WTF

Are
You
Effing
Serious
Your
Effing
Emotional
Biased
Is effed

drck1000

Re: Justice Ginsberg passed away at 87
« Reply #256 on: October 02, 2020, 01:51:52 AM »
Can someone talk some sense into this millennial emeffer?

drck1000

Re: Justice Ginsberg passed away at 87
« Reply #257 on: October 02, 2020, 01:55:42 AM »
I
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Not
Say
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Allied?
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Applied
There’s
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Difference
« Last Edit: October 02, 2020, 12:24:20 PM by drck1000 »

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Justice Ginsberg passed away at 87
« Reply #258 on: October 02, 2020, 02:07:17 AM »
Can someone talk some sense into this millennial emeffer?

"Never argue with an idiot.  He'll drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience."

I've hit that point of diminishing returns in which the challenge and fun of an academic exchange starts to suck the life out of you as the effort turns one-sided.

At this stage, the only solution I can recommend is a reading list from sources that don't teach Activist Journalism, Social Justice Warrior or "Peaceful Protestor" as career choices.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Justice Ginsberg passed away at 87
« Reply #259 on: October 02, 2020, 06:20:25 AM »
I apologize that's its come to this.  I guess in the end i am pro abortion and you are all anti. We will never come to see eye to eye. This judge threatens my values and views on freedom so I can't fully support her.  She supports your values so you can.  Everyone keeps blaming emotion, but we are all human and powered by them.  I sincerely hope you are all correct and she will faithfully do her job with no bias. I have no power to change her not getting in the job.  All I have is a way to vent my concerns to you all.  Sorry it's gotten to this level.  I just really value freedom.  Thanks for listening and I hope everyone the best. 
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