“See, no one wants to bet me, so I’m right”

I just don’t suffer idiots.

“See, no one wants to bet me, so I’m right”

I just don’t suffer idiots.

Nor should you try and argue/communicate with a post-adolescent that uses an iFag phone and Google as substitutes for life experience and education.

Aren't the Democrats trying to elect him as president?

Aren't the Democrats trying to elect him as president?

He's too orange ....   

Nor should you try and argue/communicate with a post-adolescent that uses an iFag phone and Google ...

Shouldn’t talk that way about Flapp, RobDmc. He might get triggered.

P.S. Rob can’t see this post anyway unless someone quotes it because he has me blocked.

Orange Lives Matter, rofl...

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NGL this was funny.   I mean it's all in jest.  I am curious if anyone here other than me is also youthful.

I've actually come to terms with my thoughts on all of the recent topics.  I may have wrongly been trying to convince everyone on my thoughts on topics when instead I should of focused on what I truly belive in,  freedom.  I shouldn't and no one should in this great country force anyone believe in something. The only thing we need is the ability to believe in what we want.   And hammer down that point.  Whether you belive that life begins upon inception and if you terminated that process you go to hell or you believe that is your body your right.   Neither party should force the other to believe in their values.  The government should let either party do what they want.   The government  holds no religion, no bias and simple serves everyone's interests and their right to make their own decisions. If you want an abortion, find a doctor that also believes the same.  If you don't,  don't.   Let us embrace freedom. 

Unfortunately no party embodies everything i believe in.  Conservative libertarian is the closest I think but in the end i believe it's better to be independent and we should elect people based on their individual merits not what party they belong to.

I genuinely thank everyone who helped me realize this and hope there are no hard feelings. I had no intention to cause harm.  I'm used to arguing being born surrounded by laywer family.  And I do admit my didn't age generation of thought influences myself.  I don't believe that is a bad thing every generation is different and I stand my the fact that we need to win over my generation to keep our  2nd ammendment rights.  Whether you like it or not we are the future. 

SNIP

I don't believe that is a bad thing every generation is different and I stand my the fact that we need to win over my generation to keep our  2nd ammendment rights.  Whether you like it or not we are the future.

Ok, so with that, comes responsibility for being informed so that one can properly lead.  It's that responsibility that I noticed that you don't seem to have any grasp of, or more accountability.  Yes, the younger generations hold the key to the future.  And yes, older generations typically have negative views of younger generations.  That said, when the younger generations come out and say thing that are perceived as way out of line, fully expect to get called out on it. 

That's not because of herd mentality.  That's not because it's toxic.  At least not for me.  It's a simple as if someone says something outlandish and frankly idiotic, don't expect the world to just accept you for it. 

I've actually come to terms with my thoughts on all of the recent topics.  I may have wrongly been trying to convince everyone on my thoughts on topics when instead I should of focused on what I truly belive in,  freedom.  I shouldn't and no one should in this great country force anyone believe in something. The only thing we need is the ability to believe in what we want.   And hammer down that point.  Whether you belive that life begins upon inception and if you terminated that process you go to hell or you believe that is your body your right.   Neither party should force the other to believe in their values.  The government should let either party do what they want.   The government  holds no religion, no bias and simple serves everyone's interests and their right to make their own decisions. If you want an abortion, find a doctor that also believes the same.  If you don't,  don't.   Let us embrace freedom. 

Unfortunately no party embodies everything i believe in.  Conservative libertarian is the closest I think but in the end i believe it's better to be independent and we should elect people based on their individual merits not what party they belong to.

I genuinely thank everyone who helped me realize this and hope there are no hard feelings. I had no intention to cause harm.  I'm used to arguing being born surrounded by laywer family.  And I do admit my didn't age generation of thought influences myself.  I don't believe that is a bad thing every generation is different and I stand my the fact that we need to win over my generation to keep our  2nd ammendment rights.  Whether you like it or not we are the future.

good for you...

I've actually come to terms with my thoughts on all of the recent topics.  I may have wrongly been trying to convince everyone on my thoughts on topics when instead I should of focused on what I truly belive in,  freedom.  I shouldn't and no one should in this great country force anyone believe in something. The only thing we need is the ability to believe in what we want.   And hammer down that point.  Whether you belive that life begins upon inception and if you terminated that process you go to hell or you believe that is your body your right.   Neither party should force the other to believe in their values.  The government should let either party do what they want.   The government  holds no religion, no bias and simple serves everyone's interests and their right to make their own decisions. If you want an abortion, find a doctor that also believes the same.  If you don't,  don't.   Let us embrace freedom. 

Unfortunately no party embodies everything i believe in.  Conservative libertarian is the closest I think but in the end i believe it's better to be independent and we should elect people based on their individual merits not what party they belong to.

I genuinely thank everyone who helped me realize this and hope there are no hard feelings. I had no intention to cause harm.  I'm used to arguing being born surrounded by laywer family.  And I do admit my didn't age generation of thought influences myself.  I don't believe that is a bad thing every generation is different and I stand my the fact that we need to win over my generation to keep our  2nd ammendment rights.  Whether you like it or not we are the future.

"The government should let either party do what they want."
That is where you fail to connect on this site.
I'm probably the most radical Libertarian that posts
here. I want to "kill" the government as it exists
in Hawaii today.
Yes kids, are the future, I have a grandson.  I want him
to have a better life than mine.
Democrat government is a threat to him.
Anybody that thinks the Democrat government is a solution
is a threat to him.
Enjoy your time.  It passes quickly.

"The government should let either party do what they want."
That is where you fail to connect on this site.
I'm probably the most radical Libertarian that posts
here. I want to "kill" the government as it exists
in Hawaii today.
Yes kids, are the future, I have a grandson.  I want him
to have a better life than mine.
Democrat government is a threat to him.
Anybody that thinks the Democrat government is a solution
is a threat to him.
Enjoy your time.  It passes quickly.

Don't take me wrong in not a democrat by any means.   I normally vote republican but I am disappointed in their lack of embracing freedom which they should be doing.  Also more conservative type of libertarian so I think government has its place and is important.  In my mind it should foster a environment  where either and any side can have their own beliefs and cultures. Thanks, in learning to value the present rather than focus too much on the future. 

Don't take me wrong in not a democrat by any means.   I normally vote republican but I am disappointed in their lack of embracing freedom which they should be doing.  Also more conservative type of libertarian so I think government has its place and is important.  In my mind it should foster a environment  where either and any side can have their own beliefs and cultures. Thanks, in learning to value the present rather than focus too much on the future.

Freedom is a tricky concept if you don't study it.

Freedom can be forfeit if the government's laws are violated.  Therefore it's understood that the government has the power to suspend certain rights and freedoms in those circumstances.

If I believe sex with a minor is not morally wrong, according to your "either and any side can have their own beliefs and cultures," you can't impose your morals and beliefs on me.

If I think eating human flesh and selling girls and boys into sexual slavery are beliefs of mine, you must accept. them  If none of those involved feel they are being victimized (well taken care of, etc.), there's no reason to impose YOUR beliefs on them.

Society places norms and limits on freedom based in part on its morality and societal harm it can cause.  If those norms are NOT IMPOSED on everyone evenly, then society is tolerating behavior that is harmful.

You have a basic "principle" -- that no one can/should impose their beliefs on others at all.  We do that everyday.  Laws are meant to impose behavioral "beliefs" (what's right, wrong, good, bad).  If I believe the Constitution does not apply to me, then YOU are imposing YOUR belief on me when you wave it in my face.

Your hypocrisy is that you believe the Constitution applies to everyone, yet no one is to be forced to obey the Constitution -- a document that absolutely contradicts a large number of cultures and belief systems.  One conflict is the Constitution versus Islam.  Islam is not just a religion, but it's also the foundation for how government must work.  So, if your neighbor is a practicing Muslim who violates laws derived from the US Constitution, you're telling us that he's to be allowed to behave as he wants out of "beliefs and culture."

See where the disconnect in your principles lie?

"The government should let either party do what they want."
That is where you fail to connect on this site.
I'm probably the most radical Libertarian that posts
here. I want to "kill" the government as it exists
in Hawaii today.
Yes kids, are the future, I have a grandson.  I want him
to have a better life than mine.
Democrat government is a threat to him.
Anybody that thinks the Democrat government is a solution
is a threat to him.
Enjoy your time.  It passes quickly.

How can you be a professed Libertarian and only rip the Dems?
Republicans are F’d up too.
From a Libertarian/Independent standpoint.
(Where I hope I stand.)

Freedom is a tricky concept if you don't study it.

Freedom can be forfeit if the government's laws are violated.  Therefore it's understood that the government has the power to suspend certain rights and freedoms in those circumstances.

If I believe sex with a minor is not morally wrong, according to your "either and any side can have their own beliefs and cultures," you can't impose your morals and beliefs on me.

If I think eating human flesh and selling girls and boys into sexual slavery are beliefs of mine, you must accept. them  If none of those involved feel they are being victimized (well taken care of, etc.), there's no reason to impose YOUR beliefs on them.

Society places norms and limits on freedom based in part on its morality and societal harm it can cause.  If those norms are NOT IMPOSED on everyone evenly, then society is tolerating behavior that is harmful.

You have a basic "principle" -- that no one can/should impose their beliefs on others at all.  We do that everyday.  Laws are meant to impose behavioral "beliefs" (what's right, wrong, good, bad).  If I believe the Constitution does not apply to me, then YOU are imposing YOUR belief on me when you wave it in my face.

Your hypocrisy is that you believe the Constitution applies to everyone, yet no one is to be forced to obey the Constitution -- a document that absolutely contradicts a large number of cultures and belief systems.  One conflict is the Constitution versus Islam.  Islam is not just a religion, but it's also the foundation for how government must work.  So, if your neighbor is a practicing Muslim who violates laws derived from the US Constitution, you're telling us that he's to be allowed to behave as he wants out of "beliefs and culture."

See where the disconnect in your principles lie?

There’s a quote I could get into  a Good Will Hunting discussion with you about.
And you ain’t the wicked smaht one.

Freedom is a tricky concept if you don't study it.

Freedom can be forfeit if the government's laws are violated.  Therefore it's understood that the government has the power to suspend certain rights and freedoms in those circumstances.

If I believe sex with a minor is not morally wrong, according to your "either and any side can have their own beliefs and cultures," you can't impose your morals and beliefs on me.

If I think eating human flesh and selling girls and boys into sexual slavery are beliefs of mine, you must accept. them  If none of those involved feel they are being victimized (well taken care of, etc.), there's no reason to impose YOUR beliefs on them.

Society places norms and limits on freedom based in part on its morality and societal harm it can cause.  If those norms are NOT IMPOSED on everyone evenly, then society is tolerating behavior that is harmful.

You have a basic "principle" -- that no one can/should impose their beliefs on others at all.  We do that everyday.  Laws are meant to impose behavioral "beliefs" (what's right, wrong, good, bad).  If I believe the Constitution does not apply to me, then YOU are imposing YOUR belief on me when you wave it in my face.

Your hypocrisy is that you believe the Constitution applies to everyone, yet no one is to be forced to obey the Constitution -- a document that absolutely contradicts a large number of cultures and belief systems.  One conflict is the Constitution versus Islam.  Islam is not just a religion, but it's also the foundation for how government must work.  So, if your neighbor is a practicing Muslim who violates laws derived from the US Constitution, you're telling us that he's to be allowed to behave as he wants out of "beliefs and culture."

See where the disconnect in your principles lie?

Many of these examples you listed deprives another person of their freedom.  So the government can functional stop that, as it is their job to ensure freedom for all.  Though if you want to sell your own flesh that's a you decision that doesn't affect anyone else.  If you want to practice Islam but don't directly influence or deprive another person or persons of their freedom go ahead. Rape, murder etc still can be unlawful as they limit someone else's freedom, to live,  have their opinions or body.  It even applies to stealing, you are depriving someone of lawfully gained goods.

You are correct and no perfect world can exist, what hopefully can happen is its a goal we strive for,  more freedom not less.   Less things like the partiot act, war on drugs,  anti abortion. I believe as a county we are going in the wrong direction.  Banning guns, rioting, limiting rights, no privacy, I can go on.  Protesting is fine but when you destroy someone else's property you are limiting their freedom. My goal as a citizen is to try and do my part and correct a sinking ship as I see it. 

How can you be a professed Libertarian and only rip the Dems?
Republicans are F’d up too.
From a Libertarian/Independent standpoint.
(Where I hope I stand.)

There’s a quote I could get into  a Good Will Hunting discussion with you about.
And you ain’t the wicked smaht one.

"How can you be a professed Libertarian and only rip the Dems?
Republicans are F’d up too.
From a Libertarian/Independent standpoint.
(Where I hope I stand.)"
This is Hawaii.
Republicans don't exist here.
Yes,  they are Shit,
Not as bad as Democrats, but
bad never the less.
I don't know what our kids will come
with, but that is their problem and I've done the
best I could to teach them what
is in their best interests.

Well said Mr. Groveler. 

Well said Mr. Groveler. 

Agreed.  The second you say anything bad about Republicans yet call you a liberal

Agreed.  The second you say anything bad about Republicans yet call you a liberal

You made that up.

People on here are constantly criticizing politicians of all affiliations.

We only call Liberals "liberals."  They know who they are.