Hypothetically, I own a large (30+k acre of ag land) property on Oahu. What laws pertain to shooting on my own property? I know that storage would be legal, as far as range/place of sojourn goes. I'm verifying the SDZ is completely safe. All rounds and lateral limits are covered and won't stray off of the property. I scoured the HRSs and haven't found anything against it.

Any and all help would be appreciated.

I've checked previous posts, but I didn't see any references to the laws, only word of mouth from local PD.

As far as I know, if it is your property and it's safe, you can shoot on it. No different than hunting private land. Just the same basic rules, can't shoot across a road or into someone else's property, etc.

Look up the hunting rules through DLNR and private land

SDZ, Environmental. And noise ordinances.

Hypothetically, I own a large (30+k acre of ag land) property on Oahu. What laws pertain to shooting on my own property? I know that storage would be legal, as far as range/place of sojourn goes. I'm verifying the SDZ is completely safe. All rounds and lateral limits are covered and won't stray off of the property. I scoured the HRSs and haven't found anything against it.

Any and all help would be appreciated.

I've checked previous posts, but I didn't see any references to the laws, only word of mouth from local PD.

30k+ acres of AG land is huge.  If you are somewhere in the middle, I don't think anyone will hear anything. as long as the bullets don't leave the property you should be good.  make sure you have solid backstop and berms on the side

I agree with stang. Make it somewhere in the middle and your neighbors wont know the difference.

Yea, cannot shoot across the street lol. And i think it cannot be closer than 100 yards from your property boundary. I think i read that somewhere. My friends do pest control on private land. Boars keep eating crops. But they shoot into the mountain

To be safe, i would make a dirt mound like kokohead or get a ton of used tires to make a backstop or both.

But congrats on making your private range lol.

If you do charge people to shoot, youll make some side cash, just saying

Lol

30,000 acres is about 47 square miles.  Depending on the shape of the land, that's a lot.  I'd have to check my range management manual, but sounds like you have lots of spaces for safety as well as for sounds (as mentioned above). 

Depending on the topography of your land, it can help form decisions based on excavating or filling to form a backstop.  There were a couple of the "IG gun guys" that went through that lately.  I can't recall their names off the top of my head, but drainage of the land that was graded to accommodate the new range was a pitfall for at least one of the range developments. 

Probably meant 30 acres.  30,000 would be one of the top land owners on the island like Kamehameha and Castle and Cook tier.  30 acres is about the size of Kakaako park.

If it was 30,000, then you could put it right in the middle of the property and it'd bother no one, and no one would know.  There's EPA regs for lead going into streams.  You may be limited by zoning if you intend to do it as a business.  If you had that much land, then you have the money and clout to overcome any issues in building a range.

If it's legal and you make it happen, i'd pay to shoot at your range.   

I am curious if there are any environmental regulations. Don't want lead running into a stream of course but not sure if that is a legal issue.

I am curious if there are any environmental regulations. Don't want lead running into a stream of course but not sure if that is a legal issue.

Don't talk the environment here this the same folks that think California on fire isn't climate change. 

I'm kidding, though I wonder how this is even regulated at kokohead.

Don't talk the environment here this the same folks that think California on fire isn't climate change. 

You're an idiot.

Literally.

Stop Blaming Climate Change For California’s Fires.
Many Forests, Including The Redwoods, Need Them.

“When I hear climate change discussed it’s suggested that it’s a major reason and
it’s not,” Scott Stevens of the University of California, Berkeley, told me.
...
Climate activists who in the winter excoriate those, like Senator James Inhofe, for
pointing to snow as proof that global warming isn’t happening, turn around and point
to summer fires as proof that it is.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2020/08/24/stop-blaming-climate-change-for-californias-fires-many-forests-including-the-redwoods-need-them/#62bf82dc70b3

Don't talk the environment here this the same folks that think California on fire isn't climate change. 

I'm kidding, though I wonder how this is even regulated at kokohead.

WTF? Go start your own BS thread. When does climate NOT change? We ban plastic bags based on "climate change". Cali is banning all ICE vehicles based on "climate change". You think that electric vehicles are more "environmentally friendly"?

In the 80s it was the ozone layer. Up until the 90s it was "global warming"
It's hot today - climate change. It's freezing today - climate change. Oh the ocean shoreline is changing - climate change. When does anything in this world remain constant? What do we do when there is a fear of climate change? We create organizations for people to donate all their money to. Its like tithes except they go to people that really aren't working to do anything that will change the course of "climate change" They'll create fat salaries for themselves and their friends to manage this organization. They'll buy big houses, fancy cars and build a seawall on the former Magnum PI residence. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8631723/Planning-loopholes-bypass-coastal-protection-laws-Hawaii-compound-tied-Obama.html
People will market fear just as much as they market sex to dig into your or the govt's pockets.

You buddy with Knutzen? As if we don't have enough problems with keeping Kokohead you derail another thread with your bullsh!t.

Last warning. Stay on topic

I am curious if there are any environmental regulations. Don't want lead running into a stream of course but not sure if that is a legal issue.

This covers some of the regulations like the Clean Water Act and Resource Conservation and Recovery Act on lead.  https://www.epa.gov/lead/best-management-practices-lead-outdoor-shooting-ranges-0.  There's also issues if it's going to be on leased land that needs to be cleaned up before returning it to the owner.

Noise appears to be handled through HRS 342, not sure though.

If you're the only one using the range once in a while, then no one would care as long as you have friendly neighbors.  Operating a shooting club or doing it as a business brings the range under more scrutiny.  Pissed off neighbors will find a way to shut the range down through zoning, noise, and environmental laws, or through a lawsuit. 

I am curious if there are any environmental regulations. Don't want lead running into a stream of course but not sure if that is a legal issue.

I'd have to dig up my range design and operations manual, but yes, there are lot of environmental regulations.

AFAIK, the regulations are very vague like not causing an endangerment to the public. What the fuck does that mean exactly? If you're neighbors hear gun fire, they may complain to HPD that they're in danger. You could always try running a chainsaw and tell the cops you're chopping wood. Just a suggestion...

Don't talk the environment here this the same folks that think California on fire isn't climate change. 

I'm kidding, though I wonder how this is even regulated at kokohead.

Wow, you really triggered them, they couldn't make it 2 lines down where you said you were kidding.

I too have wondered about Kokohead and the lead. Maybe at the point people started caring about lead they figured it was already so contaminated.
I am no geologist but it may be that runoff at Kokohead isn't going to get into the water table so that could take care of one of the biggest concerns.

I have always thought about how many tons of lead there must be. If there were a way to harvest the lead out of the dirt... Seems lead gets over a dollar a pound and if you could recover all the lead ever shot there that would be a lot of money.

Wow, you really triggered them, they couldn't make it 2 lines down where you said you were kidding.

I too have wondered about Kokohead and the lead. Maybe at the point people started caring about lead they figured it was already so contaminated.
I am no geologist but it may be that runoff at Kokohead isn't going to get into the water table so that could take care of one of the biggest concerns.

I have always thought about how many tons of lead there must be. If there were a way to harvest the lead out of the dirt... Seems lead gets over a dollar a pound and if you could recover all the lead ever shot there that would be a lot of money.

i've seen people digging in the berms for lead after the range closes...

Have to dig the lead out of the backstops or masses of bullets will build up and cause ricochets.  Imagine 700 rounds shot in one target lane per week on average, which is 10bs of lead/copper.  That's 35,000 bullets a year or 500lbs.  Which you can get about $300 if you dig it up.  Paying a business to remove the bullets and maintain the backstops costs over $1 million for Koko Head.  If the range is ever shut down and converted to another use, it'd cost tens of millions of dollars to decontaminate it.  I guess that's a good thing cause it discourages them from shutting down the range.