Voted for “Lego for men“.   Can somewhat easily assemble what you want.

All things considered, I would prefer a M-14/M-1A, but cannot afford one.

The AR-15 simply has more positive traits than the AK47, simple as that.

The AR-15 simply has more positive traits than the AK47, simple as that.

That's a conclusion.

Discuss the particulars.

That's a conclusion.

Discuss the particulars.

Performance and features are superior in the AR15. AK47 has cost going for it though.

Performance and features are superior in the AR15. AK47 has cost going for it though.

What brand/model AK do you own?

All things considered, I would prefer a M-14/M-1A, but cannot afford one.

I’ve long wanted an M1A. The ammo that I’d want to shoot is the one of the bigger things keeping from a .308 semi-auto.

That's a conclusion.

Discuss the particulars.

particulars that come to mind:
easy to re-barrel (length, caliber, barrel weight)
swap out uppers (multiple uppers for one registered lower)
integral pic rail on upper
wide range of buttstock options, triggers, plethora of other user-installable upgrades at reasonable cost.

if you think that's not the case, or that an equally wide range is available for the AK family, ok then. no debate.

particulars that come to mind:
easy to re-barrel (length, caliber, barrel weight)
swap out uppers (multiple uppers for one registered lower)
integral pic rail on upper
wide range of buttstock options, triggers, plethora of other user-installable upgrades at reasonable cost.

if you think that's not the case, or that an equally wide range is available for the AK family, ok then. no debate.

I know all of that.  I was trying to make EEF spend time listing his reasons.

He didn't have a response, because he was repeating a conclusion someone else had written or said in a video he watched.

Sorry you stepped on my landmine.              

I know all of that.  I was trying to make EEF spend time listing his reasons.

He didn't have a response, because he was repeating a conclusion someone else had written or said in a video he watched.

Sorry you stepped on my landmine.              

    

This is kind of a silly topic and has been gamed out many times... but I’ll play.

Usually people are going to prefer what they prefer, regardless of reason or logic.

There’s a reason why professional competitive shooters don’t compete using an AK.

There’s a reason why most militaries, outside of communist countries don’t field AKs.

I’ve owned wonderfully built AK-103 pattern rifles from Jim Fuller, Arsenal AKs, and a very nice Century. I’ve sought training from AK “experts.”

I ultimately found that the AK was a slower, less ergonomic, and more difficult to upgrade platform. Although perhaps it’s  more robust and tolerant of abuse like we’d see in YouTube torture tests.

The answer to the question of which is better, “depends.”

If you want to shoot fast and accurate- the AR is far superior to the AK.
If you want to utilize modern optics, lights or perhaps even night vision devices in modern mounts, in a repeatable and consistent manner, the AR is the way.

If you want to LARP and pretend you’re going to carry your AK around in a post apocalyptic world, even though there is no domestic supply chain for your chosen rifle (ammo, mags, spare parts), have at it. 

If you want to LARP and pretend you’re going to carry your AK around in a post apocalyptic world, even though there is no domestic supply chain for your chosen rifle (ammo, mags, spare parts), have at it. 

"Sir! That is the AK-47 assault rifle!"

"The preferred weapon of our enemy..."

"And it makes a distinctive sound when fired at us, Sir!"

I've heard US soldiers would often pick up and use dropped AK-47s to avoid the enemy identifying their location through the M-16 sound.

Not sure that's common, but it has a bit of logic depending on the situation.

Ar-15 is a tactical Barbie doll that people like to dress up with all sorts of accessories and show off at the range. It requires a lot of maintenance and a supply chain for parts and accessories that regularly wear out. Great weapon if you have a military industrial complex with a hungry appetite tax dollars.

The reason poor countries have kalashnikovs is that they are a low overhead work horse that can more that satisfactorily get the job done. 20 years of successfully resisting American imperialism in the Middle East proves that some those countries and their relatively tiny military budgets are on to something.

All things considered, I would prefer a M-14/M-1A, but cannot afford one.

My choice also.

I’ve long wanted an M1A. The ammo that I’d want to shoot is the one of the bigger things keeping from a .308 semi-auto.

I've long wanted to own a rifle like this.  I regret not acquiring one when I was younger.  I more likely would have gotten one then.  I'm a whole lot older now so I usually let the logic of owning such a fine piece of equipment that has so much potential getting wasted at a 100 yard range win over just getting it because I want it. 

I just admire and love garand type rifles.  Part of the reason why I got a mini-14 30 years  ago.  I had my share of fun playing with the AR platform when I served in the military.  AR's are good rifles and I really liked it but I did not love it.

I do love the 308/7.62 cartridge.  In the military I spent almost equal time training with the M-60 machine gun since it was my secondary designated weapon.  I have fond memories of live fire qualification at the ranges at Schofield.  Engaging targets from 700 yards out to 1100 yards was just fun, fun, fun. 

Sorry I digressed.     Just an old man and his memories and the what if's in his life.......

This is kind of a silly topic and has been gamed out many times... but I’ll play.

Usually people are going to prefer what they prefer, regardless of reason or logic.

There’s a reason why professional competitive shooters don’t compete using an AK.

There’s a reason why most militaries, outside of communist countries don’t field AKs.

I’ve owned wonderfully built AK-103 pattern rifles from Jim Fuller, Arsenal AKs, and a very nice Century. I’ve sought training from AK “experts.”

I ultimately found that the AK was a slower, less ergonomic, and more difficult to upgrade platform. Although perhaps it’s  more robust and tolerant of abuse like we’d see in YouTube torture tests.

The answer to the question of which is better, “depends.”

If you want to shoot fast and accurate- the AR is far superior to the AK.
If you want to utilize modern optics, lights or perhaps even night vision devices in modern mounts, in a repeatable and consistent manner, the AR is the way.

If you want to LARP and pretend you’re going to carry your AK around in a post apocalyptic world, even though there is no domestic supply chain for your chosen rifle (ammo, mags, spare parts), have at it. 

better than arguing about events that happened over 100 years ago, abortion, why gun owners should vote for Sleepy Joe Biden and explaining to a millennial what other uses lead can be used for besides fishing weights

better than arguing about events that happened over 100 years ago, abortion, why gun owners should vote for Sleepy Joe Biden and explaining to a millennial what other uses lead can be used for besides fishing weights

heads

heads

I'd rather argue that bullets are NOT called heads than argue about history, missiles under sugar cane fields, etc.

Ar-15 is a tactical Barbie doll that people like to dress up with all sorts of accessories and show off at the range. It requires a lot of maintenance and a supply chain for parts and accessories that regularly wear out.

Would you consider a white light and an optic (RDS or magnified) as dress up accessories?

I’m not aware of AR accessories that wear out. Which one’s are those?

What qualifies as “a lot of maintenance?”

I do know that if I needed to replace a bolt on an AR pattern rifle produced by a reputable manufacturer , it would generally be as simple as dropping the new bolt in (disregarding headspace gauging).

The same can’t be said for the AK as there isn’t as much parts standardization across the spectrum of AK variants.

This is kind of a silly topic and has been gamed out many times... but I’ll play.

Usually people are going to prefer what they prefer, regardless of reason or logic.

There’s a reason why professional competitive shooters don’t compete using an AK.

There’s a reason why most militaries, outside of communist countries don’t field AKs.

I’ve owned wonderfully built AK-103 pattern rifles from Jim Fuller, Arsenal AKs, and a very nice Century. I’ve sought training from AK “experts.”

I ultimately found that the AK was a slower, less ergonomic, and more difficult to upgrade platform. Although perhaps it’s  more robust and tolerant of abuse like we’d see in YouTube torture tests.

The answer to the question of which is better, “depends.”

If you want to shoot fast and accurate- the AR is far superior to the AK.
If you want to utilize modern optics, lights or perhaps even night vision devices in modern mounts, in a repeatable and consistent manner, the AR is the way.

If you want to LARP and pretend you’re going to carry your AK around in a post apocalyptic world, even though there is no domestic supply chain for your chosen rifle (ammo, mags, spare parts), have at it. 

7.62x39 is still cheaper even now than 5.56 to stockpile.  There are 5.56 AKs too, so there’s that.  There are more domestic manufacturers of AKs than in the past, with PSA launching their AK103 lineup and Kalashnikov USA not far behind.  Xtech, US Palm, and Magpul all make quality AK mags.  Foreign manufactured polymer AK mags with steel locking lugs, spines, and lip area are particularly robust seeing as how the Russians were able to mold them into the polymer.  When it comes to optics, I’ll
let BH sum it up...



You bring up a good point about mounting accessories such as lights, lasers, etc.