Seeing a lot more jumping to parler. . . and PornHub. . . 

NNN, millions already failed.

Recent?  Dude. . . (like totally not a sign of cog dis)

Firearms content, especially on YT, have been targeted for a long time.  Look up stuff like Patreon and others.

The recent banning's have swayed my opinion over.   They did not appear to break any rules. Its not cog dis,  I am internally struggling with 2 different concepts regarding freedom of speech.  Its conflicting reasoning within myself to draw a fine line between freedom of speech of individuals or corporations.  Patreon and other companies have every right to ban anything they want.  Patreon has all the rights of a person so if they don't like guns they don't have to allow it.  From what I gather they are not social media and just some sort of fund raising thing.  They wouldn't be under 230. 

The recent banning's have swayed my opinion over.   They did not appear to break any rules. Its not cog dis,  I am internally struggling with 2 different concepts regarding freedom of speech.  Its conflicting reasoning within myself to draw a fine line between freedom of speech of individuals or cooperation's.  Patreon and other companies have every right to ban anything they want.  Patreon has all the rights of a person so if they don't like guns they don't have to allow it.  From what I gather they are not social media and just some sort of fund raising thing.  They wouldn't be under 230.

Corporations. . .

Patreon is "friendly" site/platform that have supported firearms folks that have been shunned by YT et al.  Thought you were an avid 2a supporter. . .

Corporations. . .

Patreon is "friendly" site/platform that have supported firearms folks that have been shunned by YT et al.  Thought you were an avid 2a supporter. . .

He already explained MULTIPLE TIMES, he's an Independent.

That means he has no actual values or principles.  He easily changes his opinions depending on what he read or saw that day.

No need to call him out for his 2A beliefs.  The foundation for those is as crumbly as his research skills.

#LazyIndie

With the recent censoring of gun stuff on social media I have witnessed I have come to realize there is SOME censoring of content on social media.  This is wrong.  I amend my original view points to include this.  I maintain the idea that the "censoring" of trumps tweets about his lies is perfectly fine.   I think to keep with free speech they should stop policing non fake news. Then they can keep the 230 rights.  They are starting to cross the line in my book now.

smh

Patreon is "friendly" site/platform that have supported firearms folks that have been shunned by YT et al.  Thought you were an avid 2a supporter. . .

no focus

He already explained MULTIPLE TIMES, he's an Independent.

That means he has no actual values or principles.  He easily changes his opinions depending on what he read or saw that day.

No need to call him out for his 2A beliefs.  The foundation for those is as crumbly as his research skills.

#LazyIndie

#Fake news

Its more like I have principles of both parties and not exclusively hammered into one.  It takes a decent amount of time and evidence to change my principles.  Some conflict with others so its not an all or nothing.  Hence this whole topic.  Corporations have rights and if they don't like 2a we cant force them. At the same time I am pro 2a. So....thats just life.

Corporations. . .

Patreon is "friendly" site/platform that have supported firearms folks that have been shunned by YT et al.  Thought you were an avid 2a supporter. . .

I've heard the opposite.  That they are less friendly now and  many gun folks are moving to another platform.  Also like previously said I am 2a supporter but I can't force another person to be.  I wouldn't want my property to be forced to have signs being pro life/ etc things I don't believe in.  I am pro individual freedom.  You can't force a private company or individual to have your values, they own the website/thing, they can cater to and do whatever they want with it that's legal.  That's like making someone's house an abortion clinic against their will because others believe in it.  Unless you are a public forum or government entity.  There needs to be a happy balance between the two of free speech and personal freedom.  Freedom is the #1 right,  which leads to others. 2a is important and falls under freedom but it does not take precedent over freedom.

smh

Recent. . .

He is just recently realizing. . . it's been happening for years. 

#Fake news

Its more like I have principles of both parties and not exclusively hammered into one.  It takes a decent amount of time and evidence to change my principles.  Some conflict with others so its not an all or nothing.  Hence this whole topic.  Cooperation's have rights and if they don't like 2a we cant force them. At the same time I am pro 2a. So....thats just life.


I've heard the opposite.  That they are less friendly now and  many gun folks are moving to another platform.  Also like previously said I am 2a supporter but I can't force another person to be.  I wouldn't want my property to be forced to have signs being pro life/ etc things I don't believe in.  I am pro individual freedom.  You can't force a private company or individual to have your values, they own the website/thing, they can cater to and do whatever they want with it that's legal.  That's like making someone's house an abortion clinic against their will because others believe in it.  Unless you are a public forum or government entity.  There needs to be a happy balance between the two of free speech and personal freedom.  Freedom is the #1 right,  which leads to others. 2a is important and falls under freedom but it does not take president over freedom.

Principle:  "I'm pro-2A.  I personally support and defend the right of the people to keep and bear arms".

NOT a principle:  "I believe in 2A rights, but I can't attend pro-2A rallies because [fill in an excuse]."

#Fake news

Its more like I have principles of both parties and not exclusively hammered into one.  It takes a decent amount of time and evidence to change my principles.  Some conflict with others so its not an all or nothing.  Hence this whole topic.  Cooperation's have rights and if they don't like 2a we cant force them. At the same time I am pro 2a. So....thats just life.


I've heard the opposite.  That they are less friendly now and  many gun folks are moving to another platform.  Also like previously said I am 2a supporter but I can't force another person to be.  I wouldn't want my property to be forced to have signs being pro life/ etc things I don't believe in.  I am pro individual freedom.  You can't force a private company or individual to have your values, they own the website/thing, they can cater to and do whatever they want with it that's legal.  That's like making someone's house an abortion clinic against their will because others believe in it.  Unless you are a public forum or government entity.  There needs to be a happy balance between the two of free speech and personal freedom.  Freedom is the #1 right,  which leads to others. 2a is important and falls under freedom but it does not take president over freedom.

are we talking about trump? or biden?

#Fake news

Its more like I have principles of both parties and not exclusively hammered into one.  It takes a decent amount of time and evidence to change my principles.  Some conflict with others so its not an all or nothing.  Hence this whole topic.  Cooperation's have rights and if they don't like 2a we cant force them. At the same time I am pro 2a. So....thats just life.


I've heard the opposite.  That they are less friendly now and  many gun folks are moving to another platform.  Also like previously said I am 2a supporter but I can't force another person to be.  I wouldn't want my property to be forced to have signs being pro life/ etc things I don't believe in.  I am pro individual freedom.  You can't force a private company or individual to have your values, they own the website/thing, they can cater to and do whatever they want with it that's legal.  That's like making someone's house an abortion clinic against their will because others believe in it.  Unless you are a public forum or government entity.  There needs to be a happy balance between the two of free speech and personal freedom.  Freedom is the #1 right,  which leads to others. 2a is important and falls under freedom but it does not take president over freedom.

but what about corporations?

I've heard the opposite.  That they are less friendly now and  many gun folks are moving to another platform.  Also like previously said I am 2a supporter but I can't force another person to be.  I wouldn't want my property to be forced to have signs being pro life/ etc things I don't believe in.  I am pro individual freedom.  You can't force a private company or individual to have your values, they own the website/thing, they can cater to and do whatever they want with it that's legal.  That's like making someone's house an abortion clinic against their will because others believe in it.  Unless you are a public forum or government entity.  There needs to be a happy balance between the two of free speech and personal freedom.  Freedom is the #1 right,  which leads to others. 2a is important and falls under freedom but it does not take president over freedom.

yet you believe children must have the 'rona vaccine to attend in person school...
wtf?

yet you believe children must have the 'rona vaccine to attend in person school...
wtf?

Yes, to attend school.  They are free to not attend school.  Not having the vaccine and endangering others infringes on others freedoms.  You don't want to vaccine,  that's your right,  but don't expect to go to public school.  Stay home.

So much cognitive dissonance in this thread in the last few posts.

#Fake news

Its more like I have principles of both parties and not exclusively hammered into one.  It takes a decent amount of time and evidence to change my principles.  Some conflict with others so its not an all or nothing.  Hence this whole topic.  Corporations have rights and if they don't like 2a we cant force them. At the same time I am pro 2a. So....thats just life.


I've heard the opposite.  That they are less friendly now and  many gun folks are moving to another platform.  Also like previously said I am 2a supporter but I can't force another person to be.  I wouldn't want my property to be forced to have signs being pro life/ etc things I don't believe in.  I am pro individual freedom.  You can't force a private company or individual to have your values, they own the website/thing, they can cater to and do whatever they want with it that's legal.  That's like making someone's house an abortion clinic against their will because others believe in it.  Unless you are a public forum or government entity.  There needs to be a happy balance between the two of free speech and personal freedom.  Freedom is the #1 right,  which leads to others. 2a is important and falls under freedom but it does not take precedent over freedom.

Question. Did those principles come from your parents(family) or derive from college professors? Just curious

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Question. Did those principles come from your parents(family) or derive from college professors? Just curious

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I'm not sure,  parents don't share the all the same principles.  College was mostly scientific degree focused.  And I formed many of my opinions before that.  Video games?  TV/anime? Perhaps the real answer was just myself and my experiences in life.   Formative years was mostly around lawyer's.  Private school was mostly open didn't really force ideals on you.  I can't think of anything specific guess I just compiled them over my lifespan.

So much cognitive dissonance in this thread in the last few posts.

Another one of the "clues". . .

If you make a turn down a street and see everyone else but you driving the other way, that might mean something.  Well, MAYBE you'd be the uber genius that sees what all others can't.  But. . .

Yes, to attend school.  They are free to not attend school.  Not having the vaccine and endangering others infringes on others freedoms.  You don't want to vaccine,  that's your right,  but don't expect to go to public school.  Stay home.

I don't think children are free not to attend school.  As in the parent would get arrested eventually for not schooling their child.  I'm not a parent, so I could be wrong.

But on a side note, here comes the anti-vaxxx topic. It will go next to the 5g, flat earth, fake moon landing, and 9/11 was an inside job section.

"Not having the vaccine and endangering others infringes on others freedoms". What freedom does someone with a vaccine lose just because another person is not vaccinated?

I don't think children are free not to attend school.  As in the parent would get arrested eventually for not schooling their child.  I'm not a parent, so I could be wrong.

But on a side note, here comes the anti-vaxxx topic. It will go next to the 5g, flat earth, fake moon landing, and 9/11 was an inside job section.

"Not having the vaccine and endangering others infringes on others freedoms". What freedom does someone with a vaccine lose just because another person is not vaccinated?

Home school or private school are options.

I think vaccines as similar to the rule on smoking indoors. 2nd hand smoke threatens others who have no recourse. So smokers can't infringe on others rights not to breath smoke.  Just replace smoke with viruses and you have the vaccine argument.

Home school or private school are options.

I think vaccines as similar to the rule on smoking indoors. 2nd hand smoke threatens others who have no recourse. So smokers can't infringe on others rights not to breath smoke.  Just replace smoke with viruses and you have the vaccine argument.

And what if the parent cannot afford home or private school?  Is no school legal?