Nagant Revolver (Read 29122 times)

Gordyf

Re: Nagant Revolver
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2012, 08:51:24 PM »
Thanx astroboy. Am headed in the direction you suggested. Starline brass and cast bullets, but Trail Boss powder.
Spanner the info you sent only fired me up more. I see the calibre is different, 7.5 vice 7.62 and the one link you sent with all the pics shows a 6 shot cylinder instead of 7 as with the Russian No mention of the gas seal is made on the Swedish variant. nor does the ammo in your picture look anything like the Russian, Does it have that feature?
I am going to look further into all of it. A full google search is in order. I am REALLY getting interested now.
This is gonna be fun

Aloha :D
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Gordy

spanner1751

Re: Nagant Revolver
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2012, 06:22:54 PM »
It's a conventional six-shot, no gas seal design :thumbsup:

Before you get too excited, be advised that the dies are expensive. I bought CH4D 7.5 Nagant dies that are about half the price of RCBS.

 

Gordyf

Re: Nagant Revolver
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2012, 08:15:58 PM »
It's a conventional six-shot, no gas seal design :thumbsup:

Before you get too excited, be advised that the dies are expensive. I bought CH4D 7.5 Nagant dies that are about half the price of RCBS.

 
I got a set of dies from Midway by Lee with two pieces of the set for the 32-20, but the sizer was changed to 7.62 Nagant and reforms the 32-20, or so it is advertised.
It was quite reasonable, along the lines of $35 plus shipping. Ordered acouple hundred pieces of Starline 32-20 brass with it and the whole package was just under $100 to my door.
I know that the RCBS set is expensive, around a hundred bucks, at Midway
Have not always been a fan of Lee dies, but for the price I had to try them. Be just my luck that they are useless and I will buy the expensive set too.
This set will not make the gas seal cartridge, but a conventional type.
It seems that while still a Nagant your Swedish one is quite a different animal from the Russian variant.
God I love collecting this stuff!!

Aloha, stay tuned  ;D
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Gordy

Gordyf

Re: Nagant Revolver
« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2012, 02:27:55 PM »
Nagant Revolver Range Report. LET ME PREFACE THIS WITH THE FACT THAT THERE ARE NO PUBLISHED LOADS BY THE POWDER AND BULLET MFGR. LIKE THIS  AND THOUGH IT WORKED FOR ME, I ASSUME NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT'S USE. This load is really close to what the Nagant man has published on youtube
Followed the thread that seemed to make the most sense for a substitute load on the old Nagant.
Starline 32-20 brass reformed with the Lee die.
3.0 and 3.5 grains of Trail Boss pushing a 115 grain, .313 cast bullet, Hunters supply flat point. The LOA is 1.510 give or take a couple of thousandths.
This is followed by a light roll crimp on the rounded forward part of the projectile as the cannelure will be inside the case.
At three grains it worked OK, but felt much happier at 3.5 gr.
There was evidence with the lighter load that the case was not sealing tight in the cylinder (soot on the outside) and really easy extraction of the empties.
Not so much so with the heavier load. The firing pin did not strike center of the primer, but no misfires
Accuracy was hard to quantify as I went to the plinking range and had no sand bags or rest, but it is not a 25 yard gun.Did not chronograph for velocity                                                I think it would be most effective at about 15 yds max. More fine tuning may remedy this. The little Nagant is however a joy to shoot. Minimal recoil and even the double action is not as bad as advertised. The Ruger 22 MK II I took along was far and away more accurate.

Also took another new collector piece along, the Polish P-64 in 9mm Mak. As advertised it is a handfull. Not something you want to shoot all afternoon. About 50 rds max. OW!
A short range defensive piece only.

Aloha ;D
 
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Gordy

fstbckgt

Re: Nagant Revolver
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2012, 03:33:16 PM »

Gordyf

Re: Nagant Revolver
« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2012, 05:04:45 PM »
There has got to be a way.
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=A76238RFMJ

I hear you! The best way to deal with this is to use the right ammunition, but
The haz mat fees to Hawaii just drive the pricing off the scale.
Aim is where I got the piece and even they can't help with the fees, although they were really good on the shipping of the Pistol. They only charged me their cost.
Federal regs say that a handgun may only go overnight, UPS or Fed Ex to a C&R. Not US Mail. So much for the govmnt supporting it's own. The Post Office is going broke.
Ammunition becomes an Explosive, rather than a ORMD commodity like hair spray once it goes airborne or feet wet on a ship. The handling cost goes geometric.
Ship it anywhere on a truck, no problem.
If you find a way clue me in

Aloha :(


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Re: Nagant Revolver
« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2012, 04:35:32 AM »
"Ammunition becomes an Explosive, rather than a ORMD commodity like hair spray once it goes airborne or feet wet on a ship. The handling cost goes geometric."

That ticks me off no end, even here on the mainland, especially for propellant smokeless powder.

Pardon my tin foil hattery, but I see it as another deliberate choke point for arms in the hands of civilians.  "They" (you know who) nibble away like pirhanas, in de facto little unnoticed infringements.

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I do believe that the radical and crazy notion that the Founders meant what they said, is gradually soaking through the judicial system.