Show some control. Show some maturity. Show some dignity. And SHTF.

Sorry Inpector, I think you meant STFU.  This made me chuckle.

Sorry Inpector, I think you meant STFU.  This made me chuckle.

 

You are correct. I stand corrected. Actually, I wouldn’t be surprised if my spell corrector changed it on me or I am just an idiot!    Either way I appreciate your catching it. I’ll leave it so others can get a laugh out of it too.

 

You are correct. I stand corrected. Actually, I wouldn’t be surprised if my spell corrector changed it on me or I am just an idiot!    Either way I appreciate your catching it. I’ll leave it so others can get a laugh out of it too.

"SHTF"

I thought you meant Stop Hijacking Topics, F*cker!

Maybe I was projecting?   

 

You are correct. I stand corrected. Actually, I wouldn’t be surprised if my spell corrector changed it on me or I am just an idiot!    Either way I appreciate your catching it. I’ll leave it so others can get a laugh out of it too.

I knew what you meant!

"SHTF"

I thought you meant Stop Hijacking Topics, F*cker!

Maybe I was projecting?   

SHTF is what is about to happen to America.
Shit Hits The Fan.

SHTF is what is about to happen to America.
Shit Hits The Fan.

If Trump does manage to win this thing, the rioting and looting and burning will be on an epic scale. But only if you live in certain cities. I doubt you have much to worry about. Neither do I. I think the only thing I am curious about is how many mayors will allow this to occur and for how long? Four days? Four weeks? Four years?

If Trump does manage to win this thing, the rioting and looting and burning will be on an epic scale. But only if you live in certain cities. I doubt you have much to worry about. Neither do I. I think the only thing I am curious about is how many mayors will allow this to occur and for how long? Four days? Four weeks? Four years?

Blue gov and mayors will allow it. Like theyve been allowing since may.

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Bullshit.

This is like the 2nd or 3rd time,  maybe even 4th time I've seen Inspector blatantly calling you out.

You must be special for Inspector to make the posts he does. 
He normally doesn't post in this sort of manner.

But others have said the same with no sort of change so. 


Keep yourself healthy Inspector

Since this is an opinion thread I'd like say that I'm thankful that President Trump did not concede the election.  Things may look a bit dire in terms of his challenges to the election results but I applaud his decision to keep going.

I like to believe that the President is sending a message.  A message that he has been saying all along concerning mail-in voting.  And that is that mail-in voting compromises the integrity of elections.

And as more and more evidence is revealed, I believe the american public will start thinking about the validity of mail-in voting.  As close as this election was, I hope that in the very least the lawsuits will establish that mail-in voting is questionable when it comes to being fair and honest.

To me, a true voter will take the time to learn issues the candidates support, then take the time and make the effort to register before the due date, and go to the polls to cast their vote.

People that need to be catered to just to get their vote to me are just plain lazy.  They don't care.  I tend to think that their vote will not be well thought out and frivolous.  Because again, if these people don't feel it's not worth their time and effort to understand the issues, and then register as a voter and go to the polls, then their vote is useless.  Mail-in voting just equates to more meaningless votes.

That is why, if we had the election with absentee voting, regular precincts, and a deadline for registering to vote I believe Trump would have won decisively.

At the end of all this I want President Trump to be remembered as the President who revealed mail-in voting as a f*cken joke.

Again this is only my opinion.  No facts known, offered, or implied.

I believe the American public will start thinking about the validity of mail-in voting.

The liberal media and DNC will not allow that.   They know they have created the perfect fraud machine and will protect it viciously.

Since this is an opinion thread I'd like say that I'm thankful that President Trump did not concede the election.  Things may look a bit dire in terms of his challenges to the election results but I applaud his decision to keep going.

I like to believe that the President is sending a message.  A message that he has been saying all along concerning mail-in voting.  And that is that mail-in voting compromises the integrity of elections.

And as more and more evidence is revealed, I believe the american public will start thinking about the validity of mail-in voting.  As close as this election was, I hope that in the very least the lawsuits will establish that mail-in voting is questionable when it comes to being fair and honest.

To me, a true voter will take the time to learn issues the candidates support, then take the time and make the effort to register before the due date, and go to the polls to cast their vote.

People that need to be catered to just to get their vote to me are just plain lazy.  They don't care.  I tend to think that their vote will not be well thought out and frivolous.  Because again, if these people don't feel it's not worth their time and effort to understand the issues, and then register as a voter and go to the polls, then their vote is useless.  Mail-in voting just equates to more meaningless votes.

That is why, if we had the election with absentee voting, regular precincts, and a deadline for registering to vote I believe Trump would have won decisively.

At the end of all this I want President Trump to be remembered as the President who revealed mail-in voting as a f*cken joke.

Again this is only my opinion.  No facts known, offered, or implied.

I agree, but it's not just mail-in voting.  It's all the early voting and "assisted" voting for people of diminished capacity, state voter registration databases that are eons out of date, and a complete lack of security throughout the post-election process.

We have a DAY of voting according to the Constitution.  Early voting should not be a "thing."  If you want to cast an early ballot, then get up early on election day and beat the crowd. You vote the same day as everyone else.

We need more polling places to cut down on wait times.  Long lines was one of the justifications for early and mail-in voting.  Need to fix that, too.

Every ballot needs a tracking number tied to a valid registered voter name, and it needs to originate on paper.  That becomes the official record of the election.  Those can then be fed into the counting scanners to tally the votes at each location.  In presidential election years, I'd like to see a bin at the exit and two buckets -- one with blue chips and one with red.  The area needs a curtain to avoid anyone watching as you take a colored chip and place it in the bin.  The bin needs to be from something that can't be seen into as well.

This would give the vote counters an additional metric to bounce the vote totals against.  If there were 5000 voters at a site that day, there should be 5000 chips in the bin, give or take a couple for anyone not wishing to throw a chip in.  The number of red and blue chips would approximate the number of Dem vs GOP ballots.  If the vote totals don't match somewhere close to the chip count, there's a problem.  If there are more votes total than chips, that's okay to a degree.  If there are fewer votes than chips, theres a problem.  Are they missing votes in the total?  Malfunctioning machine?  Poll worker not working the scanner right?  Someone deleted votes after they counted? 

We know there are mistakes and problems with any mechanical or electronic voting machines, whether it's the actual one people use to vote on, the ones doing the counting, or the ones doing the reporting.  The states need "bean counting" processes to make sure the exact number of ballots is known going in to counting, and coming out.  I remember in the midterms, the FL clerk was getting called out for all kinds of irregularities.  One was for not knowing how many absentee and mail-in ballots remained uncounted.  If she knew that number, then it would be possible to follow the returns and tell if a candidate was going to be able to close a gap or not.  It's a number.  Simple to count and report.  How can they NOT know that number?

If they can't keep a count of individual ballots needing to process, then how are they able to handle counting the votes and telling which are valid?

Making it harder to vote is a mark of a dictatorship.   For Democracy to thrive it should be available to the masses.   It should be easy and accessible. We want more voters not less.  If not only the extremes win, the most stubborn hard-core will be the main voters.  Why force people to stand in line.   Not everyone has a day off to go vote in person. Especially the younger voters. And not to method this year's pandemic.  I agree that it must be audited and valid.  I would encourage mail in voting.   Perhaps create a unique identification to the ballot to ensure validity. Purge all voter rolls. Have everyone re-apply.  Yearly update via easy to use online system.  Perhaps best tied with state id or drivers license. Just like you can check a box to donate organs. There should be one that you check to vote.

Making it harder to vote is a mark of a dictatorship.   For Democracy to thrive it should be available to the masses.   It should be easy and accessible. We want more voters not less.  If not only the extremes win, the most stubborn hard-core will be the main voters.  Why force people to stand in line.   Not everyone has a day off to go vote in person. Especially the younger voters. And not to method this year's pandemic.  I agree that it must be audited and valid.  I would encourage mail in voting.   Perhaps create a unique identification to the ballot to ensure validity. Purge all voter rolls. Have everyone re-apply.  Yearly update via easy to use online system.  Perhaps best tied with state id or drivers license. Just like you can check a box to donate organs. There should be one that you check to vote.

Ignoring the insecurity of a voting system that's prone to errors and manipulation is not just immoral, it's criminal.

When you support a voting system that lets people try to cheat, or that has irregularities caused by malfunctions, incompetence and intentional misconduct, you're disenfranchising the people that voted for the other guy.  Illegal or invalid votes should not be allowed to cancel out legal votes.

Liberals like to use the phrase "making voting harder," like someone is suggesting voters take a competency test or recite the Pledge of Allegiance forward AND backward.  Getting an ID is not only not difficult, but it's required for every other thing the gov't does for you.  Showing up on election day is NOT a hardship for the vast majority -- it's one reason it's a national holiday.  You get the day off, or you at least get a 2-3 hour "pass" from work to go vote.  Most people leave a couple of hours early from work so they can get in line.  As long as they are in line when the polls close, they still get to vote.

You said, "For Democracy to thrive it should be available to the masses."  Having the polls open for 12 hours on a Tuesday provides that access.  If someone can't make it that day and has a valid reason, they can vote by mail.  in the military?  Traveling for work?  Caretaker for an elderly parent?  There are people who have real, honest reasons to need accommodations.  That's the MINORITY of voters, though.  Mail-in votes from them should not count in the hundreds of thousands for any given state.  It sure should not count in the hundreds of millions nationally. 

The greater the volume of early and mail-in votes, and the longer the time given to count, the greater the risk of someone trying to tamper with the outcome.

Had the votes been required to continue non-stop from polls closing until the tally was reported, Trump would be President now.  Giving a few key states DAYS to count and count and keep counting offered that much additional time to "find" boxes of ballots that were 100% for Biden -- not a single one for Trump.

These are not new ideas.  When you give someone the chance to steal something they really want, most of the time they are going to take that chance.  Limiting the risk involves many things, including narrowing that window of opportunity.

How do we know mail-in ballots and early voting ballots were properly protected before the count?  Why are they not counted the day they are cast?  Because it provides an opportunity when needed.  An opportunity to massage the ballots as they sit for weeks before election day when the count officially starts.

No matter how many "but, the masses!" reasons someone can come up with, common sense has to prevail.  I'm sure the local sheriff in a town of 79 voters wasn't allowed to take the ballot box to his office and count it the next day.  That creates an unnecessary opportunity that throws at least a shadow of doubt on the outcome if it's not as people expected.

This is like the 2nd or 3rd time,  maybe even 4th time I've seen Inspector blatantly calling you out.

You must be special for Inspector to make the posts he does. 
He normally doesn't post in this sort of manner.

But others have said the same with no sort of change so. 


Keep yourself healthy Inspector

Thanks!

You know, if he had come at this like: “... and don’t forget the Russians also had a disinformation campaign that helped Trump. They played both sides...” I would have just just said to myself, the guy has his opinion and I have mine and I would not have said a word to him. I might have even told him I agree and that he is correct because I believe they did play both sides. But he came at me like I said something that was so egregious that he couldn’t control his emotions and he couldn’t hold back any more and he had to correct me. He has little to no control over his emotions and he takes it out on people by calling them out. But when he tries to correct something that is factual in his emotional state he really just looks like a whiney little baby.

Considering Judicial Watch and the ACLJ has all the emails and memos from the FBI documenting everything I said. They used FOIA requests to obtain all of these documents. What I said was not only verified and factual but it contradicted his unfortunate misbelief that the Russians were in the tank with Trump. Which is the farthest thing from the truth. They may have had a disinformation campaign for Trump as well as for Hilary. But the truth is the Russians provided the disinformation for the dossier that Hilary and the DNC paid for so that squarely says that they were in the tank for Hilary. It is an undeniable fact. I am afraid our friend here just cannot accept the truth and he went off the deep end on a childish rant.

I would love to take the credit and say I wrote my original post just to troll the guy to watch him lose it but then I wouldn’t be honest. On the other hand, since he can’t control himself or his emotions maybe I should post more things to troll him? Naw, Flapp does a better job of that than I do. 

Since he doesn’t listen to what others say to him, and he has such a closed mind, I think it is time to just ignore the guy and let the others deal with his BS and let others call out his lies.

Since this is an opinion thread I'd like say that I'm thankful that President Trump did not concede the election.  Things may look a bit dire in terms of his challenges to the election results but I applaud his decision to keep going.

I like to believe that the President is sending a message.  A message that he has been saying all along concerning mail-in voting.  And that is that mail-in voting compromises the integrity of elections.

And as more and more evidence is revealed, I believe the american public will start thinking about the validity of mail-in voting.  As close as this election was, I hope that in the very least the lawsuits will establish that mail-in voting is questionable when it comes to being fair and honest.

To me, a true voter will take the time to learn issues the candidates support, then take the time and make the effort to register before the due date, and go to the polls to cast their vote.

People that need to be catered to just to get their vote to me are just plain lazy.  They don't care.  I tend to think that their vote will not be well thought out and frivolous.  Because again, if these people don't feel it's not worth their time and effort to understand the issues, and then register as a voter and go to the polls, then their vote is useless.  Mail-in voting just equates to more meaningless votes.

That is why, if we had the election with absentee voting, regular precincts, and a deadline for registering to vote I believe Trump would have won decisively.

At the end of all this I want President Trump to be remembered as the President who revealed mail-in voting as a f*cken joke.

Again this is only my opinion.  No facts known, offered, or implied.

I agree with your statement here about Trump. As long as he plays by the rules, win or lose, he needs to win graciously or lose graciously. But he needs to do it within our system. He has to play by the rules and appear he has done nothing wrong. I think he needs to be very careful with his words over the next month or two while this plays out. Instead of saying we are going to win (Like he did in a recent tweet), I think he needs to say we just need patience and let the courts decide if their was voter fraud or not. If Trump stays on the up and up on this, win or lose I think he comes out looking good.

Making it harder to vote is a mark of a dictatorship.   For Democracy to thrive it should be available to the masses.   It should be easy and accessible. We want more voters not less.  If not only the extremes win, the most stubborn hard-core will be the main voters.  Why force people to stand in line.   Not everyone has a day off to go vote in person. Especially the younger voters. And not to method this year's pandemic.  I agree that it must be audited and valid.  I would encourage mail in voting.   Perhaps create a unique identification to the ballot to ensure validity. Purge all voter rolls. Have everyone re-apply.  Yearly update via easy to use online system.  Perhaps best tied with state id or drivers license. Just like you can check a box to donate organs. There should be one that you check to vote.

Fawk that !

Request absentee ballot if you have a legitimate reason for being out of state at time of election or disability or other good reason.
Otherwise, show up at one of the many polling places around the state (pandemic conditions excluded) and present your valid ID and vote.
There was almost no line on any given year other than this one with only two polling places open.
Two hours off for voting on Election Day.

Voting is not something that you mailize or computerize.
It’s too fawking important to keep it’s integrity.

I’ve taken my kids with me to the polling places to cast my vote since they could walk in with me to show them this is what we do.


P.S. Flapp, answer the question. 

Fawk that !

Request absentee ballot if you have a legitimate reason for being out of state at time of election or disability or other good reason.
Otherwise, show up at one of the many polling places around the state (pandemic conditions excluded) and present your valid ID and vote.
There was almost no line on any given year other than this one with only two polling places open.
Two hours off for voting on Election Day.

Voting is not something that you mailize or computerize.
It’s too fawking important to keep it’s integrity.

I’ve taken my kids with me to the polling places to cast my vote since they could walk in with me to show them this is what we do.


P.S. Flapp, answer the question. 

You know why there was little lines?  Most of Hawaii votes by mail.  I don't know a single person that isn't on this forum who didn't vote by mail.  I voted by mail, I don't even know what a polling site looks like.  Its so convenient.  Hawaii's elections are secure.  Don't fight the future,  modernization is good.  Put unique QR codes on all ballots with tracking information to enhance security, redo voting registration rolls.  That's plenty of security.  Then you know the ballot and the person are both valid without forcing them to stand in line, take off work, etc. 

You know why there was little lines?  Most of Hawaii votes by mail.  I don't know a single person that isn't on this forum who didn't vote by mail.  I voted by mail, I don't even know what a polling site looks like.  Its so convenient.  Hawaii's elections are secure.  Don't fight the future,  modernization is good.  Put unique QR codes on all ballots with tracking information to enhance security, redo voting registration rolls.  That's plenty of security.  Then you know the ballot and the person are both valid without forcing them to stand in line, take off work, etc.

Exactly how do you verify that the person the ballot was mailed to was the person that filled out the ballot and mailed it back (compared to a person at a polling place presenting "official" ID prior to receiving a ballot to be completed on site)?

Exactly how do you verify that the person the ballot was mailed to was the person that filled out the ballot and mailed it back (compared to a person at a polling place presenting "official" ID prior to receiving a ballot to be completed on site)?

Signature.  Same way you validate checks and credit card purchases. Though I am not opposed to perhaps adding a section to add the last 4 of ssn for additional security.