I see I guess I was wrong.  What I meant is that he will be a figure head and not doing any meaningful changes.  Republicans can stop all the gun control.

You guess?

And not all gun control goes through the Senate.

You’ve really got to get your head on straight. At least when it comes to gun control issues.

Also, check out what Obama did in similar situation. Think he won’t be an influence on Biden? 

After he left office, Obama said his biggest regret was not being able to pass meaningful gun control.

Looks like Trump is done.

Looks like Trump is done.

Unless a state previously called for Biden flips.  AZ?  WI? 

Trump's team is already anticipating a WI recount, because the margin was 0.6%, and anything under 1% is automatically recounted.  If that stays for Biden and the margin is still that small, Trump could request a hand recount -- hopefully with a happy ending.   

There are 538 electors.  If the count were a tie, it would be 269 each.  That's where the magic number 270 came from.

Given the states still in play, it's impossible to see where this could be a tie UNLESS one faithless elector casts a Biden-bound vote for Trump (or anyone else .... Bernie again?)

Hawaii is already in Biden's "win" column, but if just one elector jumps ship like in 2016, it could stop Biden from claiming victory.  And if Trump was looking at 268, any states could theoretically swing the entire election his way with just 2 faithless electors. 

I can see an elector believing his state cheated, or at least handed the primary to Biden over Bernie.  If he/she really wanted to get even, instead of voting for Bernie, they would vote for Trump so the DNC's primary pick can't win.

So many things could happen up until and after the states certify their totals.  I heard WI has until Dec 1 to certify, which must be done before any recount is done.  Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll certify sooner knowing a recount is a given.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/voter-fraud-wisconsin-massive-dump-100000-ballots-biden-sudden-appear-overnight/

Convenient little bump there right at the end. What are the chances that nearly ALL of the last minute votes were for Biden? Statistically impossible.

Trump won this election.

We’re supposed to believe that:

-Wisconsin’s turnout was 90%
-Atlanta vote count was delayed because of a “broken pipe”
-Green Bay vote count was delayed because they “ran out of ink”
-Batches of tens of thousands of votes are coming in 100% for Biden in Pennsylvania

You guess?

And not all gun control goes through the Senate.

You’ve really got to get your head on straight. At least when it comes to gun control issues.

Also, check out what Obama did in similar situation. Think he won’t be an influence on Biden?

How will biden without the senate pass gun control?  Executive orders can do no meaningful change.  You cant ban assault rifles with executive orders.

How will biden without the senate pass gun control?  Executive orders can do no meaningful change.  You cant ban assault rifles with executive orders.

You really do believe you know it all, don't you?

Not all gun control comes at the national level. 

EO's can do no meaningful change?  Well, eff me, I've got things all wrong.  I can tell you without a damn doubt that they can effect meaningful change, as well as meaningful and long lasting harm. 

You say you're "pro 2a", but yet you are so freaking ignorant of so many things. . . get educated before you continue to run your mouth here and make you look more foolish than you already have. . .

How will biden without the senate pass gun control?  Executive orders can do no meaningful change.  You cant ban assault rifles with executive orders.

lol.

How will biden without the senate pass gun control?  Executive orders can do no meaningful change.  You cant ban assault rifles with executive orders.

Goddamn you're a fucking moron. You think the Senate passed a bumpstock ban?

How will biden without the senate pass gun control?  Executive orders can do no meaningful change.  You cant ban assault rifles with executive orders.

Did Obama not create DACA, a 100% unconstitutional Executive Order, even while ADMITTING it was just a stop-gap measure to try and kick Congress in the ass to finally do something for immigration reform?

It remained in effect until Trump repealed it.

Unless challenged, Executive Orders can do anything the President wants as long as it applies to agencies that work for the Executive branch.

You know .... agencies like DOJ, FBI, BATFE, IRS, DHS, DoD.

For example, the DoD could make it policy to restrict members and their family from possessing certain types of personal firearms while living in gov't quarters or lodging being paid for by gov't funding (lodging allowance for off-base quarters).

The BATFE could ban assault weapons outright by issuing a regulation, assuming they do it properly this time and not try to sneak it in without first soliciting public comments (like they tried to do with green tip AR-15 ammo -- "Sorry.  Administrative 'mistake'".

The IRS could go after assault weapon makers, parts manufacturers, retailers, etc.  They don't have to find any problems, but they can still tie them up in court for years, costing the companies millions in legal fees to fight it.  The Gov't has essentially unlimited resources when it comes to litigation, resources like time, people, money and patience.  It's why most people settle with the Gov't if they can, or just drop the case completely.  Battle of attrition.

Biden already posted a list of things he can do, like limiting purchases of firearms to one per month so he can prevent "stockpiling."  Not only is stockpiling not a problem related to crime, but collectors (like yourself) will be unable to jump on a fantastic and rare opportunity unless the seller will wait a few months for you to be allowed to transfer 3 or more guns to your collection.

It's ALL gun control.  Has nothing to do with making anybody safer -- except the government (from the people).

Goddamn you're a fucking moron. You think the Senate passed a bumpstock ban?

This ought to be interesting.  He can never say he's wrong. . . being he was raised by lawyers. . .

Just when you think someone couldn't possible say anything more idiotic. . . he goes and TOTALLY goes overboard to prove us wrong. . .

I see I guess I was wrong.  What I meant is that he will be a figure head and not doing any meaningful changes.  Republicans can stop all the gun control.

you are still wrong...

I guess Trump really should wait till Dec 14 and the EC votes.  He just might eek out a win.

Goddamn you're a fucking moron. You think the Senate passed a bumpstock ban?

The was talking about the assault rifle ban passed into the law before.   

This is just conspiracy theories its because they counted mail in votes...Which biden embraced and trump was against. So they are majority democrat votes.  Also depends on the county that was counted.  Democrat heavy counties submitted their votes.

You sound so certain.

The thing your bosses did not tell you (because they are incompetent) is that this sort of obvious in-our-face voter fraud may have worked in the USSR and PRNK but it will not fly in this country. We grew up loving freedom and cherishing our rights, and our national mythos states very clearly what we are supposed to do when someone tries to take that away.

Yes both sides play dirty games, but up to this point everyone recognized that there is a line that should not be crossed in order to maintain the integrity of the process. Once people view the authority as illegitimate they will not cooperate with the federal government, and the only tool left in the box is violent coercion. This is the kind of thing that makes states want to call a constitutional convention in order to secede and/or dissolve the union.

You sound so certain.

The thing your bosses did not tell you (because they are incompetent) is that this sort of obvious in-our-face voter fraud may have worked in the USSR and PRNK but it will not fly in this country. We grew up loving freedom and cherishing our rights, and our national mythos states very clearly what we are supposed to do when someone tries to take that away.

Yes both sides play dirty games, but up to this point everyone recognized that there is a line that should not be crossed in order to maintain the integrity of the process. Once people view the authority as illegitimate they will not cooperate with the federal government, and the only tool left in the box is violent coercion. This is the kind of thing that makes states want to call a constitutional convention in order to secede and/or dissolve the union.

Very much so. Yet another point being missed by the all knowing one. . .

Once people view the authority as illegitimate they will not cooperate with the federal government, and the only tool left in the box is violent coercion.

Spoken like a true Hawaiian national!   

This is the kind of thing that makes states want to call a constitutional convention in order to secede and/or dissolve the union.

Well, those states should wait their turn.  We Hawaiians legally get to restore our nation, first.   

Spoken like a true Hawaiian national!   

It is definitely ironic, will give you that, however most of the Hawaiians did cooperate and are still cooperating to this day because they got sprinkled with federal money pixie dust. The gravy train is not going to last much longer and there is currently no plan for self sufficiency, so careful what you wish for.