Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread (Read 108404 times)

omnigun

Re: Opinions on this Election?
« Reply #120 on: November 05, 2020, 12:34:07 PM »
No cheating because no one was convicted of cheating.  So doesn't happen.

Didn't even need to be convicted, there's no EVIDENCE of cheating.  Can't even make it to court. Trump went to court with 0 proof.   The judge tossed the case.  IF there was massive fraud you think there would be some evidence and trump would go to court with that evidence. 

changemyoil66

Re: Election Results 2020
« Reply #121 on: November 05, 2020, 12:39:18 PM »
Trump created his brand in part with "The Apprentice."  He quickly became a reality show celebrity with that iconic, "You're FIRED!"

That's what I BELIEVE people expected from him when he first ran, and that's what he gave us.  You can't be a chief executive of anything and be polite or unoffensive.  You have a job to get done, and niceties as a course of normalcy takes too much time and energy.  You save polite for the state dinners and when talking to friends and family who aren't looking to stab you in the back regardless of whether or not you hand out nasty nicknames to the people you don't like.

This election is turning into an episode of that TV show.  Trump was team leader, and he and Biden are now in the board  room.  Trump is being objective (okay, embellishing it here or there) about his performance and that of Biden, but Biden is blaming Trump for everything including Jim Crow laws, Hitler's rise to power and the Lindburgh kidnapping -- anything to push Trump down and save his own worthless hide.  All Joe has is "PANDEMIC!"   and "MEANIE!"

I really hope we hear, "Joe.  You're fired!"   :popcorn:

There are a few vids out there where Trump visited the hospitals after an active shooting.  And comments from the peoples families were along the lines of "he's a lot nicer and sincere than the media makes him out to be. I was shocked".  Of course clip never aired again and YT scubs lots of them, like how they scrub as best they can antifa assaults.

On a side note, the president of the WHO (China) is saying Hitler was a better person than Trump is.  Same China who keeps Taiwan out from the WHO Covid numbers, so I have to use Taiwanese websites to get their totals.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Opinions on this Election?
« Reply #122 on: November 05, 2020, 12:43:37 PM »
Not the most perfect election but I see no corruption or fraud.  Its just Trump being trump.  He doesn't want to lose.  Theres no cheating.  Its just that he is unpopular because of who he is and how he acts.   

The stopped courting thing is because they started to count mail in ballots, which are majority democrat votes because trump spent the last few months attacking mail in voting...


That's an opinion, not a fact.  Whether or not Trump "attacked" mail-in voting is a matter of opinion.  What is a fact is Democrats were frightened into requesting mail-in ballots in states that were not going to send out bulk ballots based on voter roles.  Republicans were more frightened of voter fraud and Post Office incompetence, both documented possibilities, keeping their vote from arriving and being counted. 

They stopped counting because they saw Biden having not enough outstanding ballots to win.  So, in Detroit, Michigan, for example, they pulled a 2000 Election ploy.  They said the were quitting counting at 2:00am, and they would resume at 10:00am.  That's 8 hours to give counters adequate sleep to start again.  Then, at 3:30am, vans starting arriving with boxes of ballots.  Also, the workers were being allowed in without any security.  No ID check, no list of authorized people in the counting area, no check of large coolers, bags, or suitcases being wheeled into the counting room.

By 8:00AM, 2 hours before they SAID they would be counting more ballots, numbers were updated to show a massive reduction in Trump's lead.  How does that happen when the counting was still paused for 2 more hours?  Where did all the ballots arriving while the workers were supposed to be at home come from?  Why were there individuals dropping of boxes of ballots in the wee hours with no escort, no oversight, and no apparent restrictions?  They just walked the ballots into the counting area, and they could have been from anywhere and from anyone.  Total lack of control over a process that is responsible for choosing our president, vp, and state and local leaders and law makers.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Opinions on this Election?
« Reply #123 on: November 05, 2020, 12:49:01 PM »
There are both democrats and republicans in polling centers, along with international monitors.  What they don't want is a bunch of idiots breathing on the necks of the poll workers and threatening them.  (aka the screaming guy outside who says this is all rigged and a conspiracy is not the best person to be inside the poling station)

Trump supports are acting like morons tbh.  Arizona they are outside demanding they count all the ballots while in Pennsylvania they are screaming stop counting...You cant even make this shit up on SNL.

Do you even try to watch the news other than Liberal propaganda?

Trump's team just won a victory in court that STOPPED THE COUNTING until Republican count watchers were allowed access.

How could the court decide such a thing if, as you stated, "There are both democrats and republicans in polling centers"?

As for international monitors, they are not there to ensure the integrity of the count.  They are merely observers who see only what they are allowed to see.  Totally irrelevant.

I find it ironic that someone who just admitted to being scammed out of $100 is calling ANYONE "morons."

The screams to stop in PA was not to stop completely.  It was to stop until the Republicans were allowed to monitor the process.  But, I don't expect you to know that until someone here tells you.  Your news selections seem a bit .... skewed.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Opinions on this Election?
« Reply #124 on: November 05, 2020, 12:51:18 PM »
If someone doesn’t have less on, they are a?

ren

Re: Opinions on this Election?
« Reply #125 on: November 05, 2020, 12:54:42 PM »

I find it ironic that someone who just admitted to being scammed out of $100 is calling ANYONE "morons."


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omnigun

Re: Opinions on this Election?
« Reply #126 on: November 05, 2020, 01:09:33 PM »
Do you even try to watch the news other than Liberal propaganda?

Trump's team just won a victory in court that STOPPED THE COUNTING until Republican count watchers were allowed access.

How could the court decide such a thing if, as you stated, "There are both democrats and republicans in polling centers"?

As for international monitors, they are not there to ensure the integrity of the count.  They are merely observers who see only what they are allowed to see.  Totally irrelevant.

I find it ironic that someone who just admitted to being scammed out of $100 is calling ANYONE "morons."

The screams to stop in PA was not to stop completely.  It was to stop until the Republicans were allowed to monitor the process.  But, I don't expect you to know that until someone here tells you.  Your news selections seem a bit .... skewed.

There's many many lawsuits, some he won some he lost.  Is Fox news, the new face of liberal news? 

Yeah I acted "moronic"  it happens.  I owned up to it.  Realize my faults and fixed it.   Hope Trump supporters do the same.

omnigun

Re: Opinions on this Election?
« Reply #127 on: November 05, 2020, 01:14:13 PM »

That's an opinion, not a fact.  Whether or not Trump "attacked" mail-in voting is a matter of opinion.  What is a fact is Democrats were frightened into requesting mail-in ballots in states that were not going to send out bulk ballots based on voter roles.  Republicans were more frightened of voter fraud and Post Office incompetence, both documented possibilities, keeping their vote from arriving and being counted. 

They stopped counting because they saw Biden having not enough outstanding ballots to win.  So, in Detroit, Michigan, for example, they pulled a 2000 Election ploy.  They said the were quitting counting at 2:00am, and they would resume at 10:00am.  That's 8 hours to give counters adequate sleep to start again.  Then, at 3:30am, vans starting arriving with boxes of ballots.  Also, the workers were being allowed in without any security.  No ID check, no list of authorized people in the counting area, no check of large coolers, bags, or suitcases being wheeled into the counting room.

By 8:00AM, 2 hours before they SAID they would be counting more ballots, numbers were updated to show a massive reduction in Trump's lead.  How does that happen when the counting was still paused for 2 more hours?  Where did all the ballots arriving while the workers were supposed to be at home come from?  Why were there individuals dropping of boxes of ballots in the wee hours with no escort, no oversight, and no apparent restrictions?  They just walked the ballots into the counting area, and they could have been from anywhere and from anyone.  Total lack of control over a process that is responsible for choosing our president, vp, and state and local leaders and law makers.

That's some conspiracy level stuff here.  They have guards, locked the ballots and secured everything.  this isn't some slave labor camp, I may be wrong but I believe they are all volunteers.  Forcing them to work 24hrs is kind of cruel and without sleep there might be more errors.  Do you have any proof for your accusations?  Or are they baseless rumors.  Even if they brought bags of votes, all ballots of verified it would never work.  But sure I can sell you some tin foil for a dollar a sheet.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Opinions on this Election?
« Reply #128 on: November 05, 2020, 01:18:56 PM »
That's some conspiracy level stuff here.  They have guards, locked the ballots and secured everything.  this isn't some slave labor camp, I may be wrong but I believe they are all volunteers.  Forcing them to work 24hrs is kind of cruel and without sleep there might be more errors.  Do you have any proof for your accusations?  Or are they baseless rumors.  Even if they brought bags of votes, all ballots of verified it would never work.  But sure I can sell you some tin foil for a dollar a sheet.

Who did that?  There is video of that NOT happening in Detroit.  I posted it already.  Go watch it.

In PA, ballots are NOT verified.

Pennsylvania Ballots Can’t Be Thrown Out For
Mismatched Signatures, Court Rules In Blow To GOP


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The state Supreme Court ruled that Pennsylvania’s Election Code “does not authorize or
require county election boards to reject absentee or mail-in ballots...based on an analysis
of a voter’s signature.”

I can't tell if you're that ignorant, or simply a disinformation plant for the Democrats.  At some point, we have to start assigning malice instead of stupidity.  No one can continue to get so many things wrong without stopping to reflect on WHY ... unless it IS intentional.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/10/23/pennsylvania-ballots-cant-be-thrown-out-for-mismatched-signatures-court-rules-in-blow-to-gop/?sh=49fa67bf4825
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Jl808

Re: Opinions on this Election?
« Reply #129 on: November 05, 2020, 02:05:16 PM »
Election turmoil is exposing the fraudsters

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Opinions on this Election?
« Reply #130 on: November 05, 2020, 02:27:50 PM »
Election turmoil is exposing the fraudsters

Tim Pool eluded to something similar.

Trump has exposed it all.  Even without "courtroom evidence", he's demonstrated they behave exactly as we always suspected, but were always put down by "plausible deniability."

Unfortunately, with Biden in office, his life of government corruption will just be rewarded instead of punished.

Two-tier justice system.  We see it on full display.  Maybe the next DC outsider can finally make a dent in it.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Opinions on this Election?
« Reply #131 on: November 05, 2020, 02:59:53 PM »
Who did that?  There is video of that NOT happening in Detroit.  I posted it already.  Go watch it.

In PA, ballots are NOT verified.

Pennsylvania Ballots Can’t Be Thrown Out For
Mismatched Signatures, Court Rules In Blow To GOP


I can't tell if you're that ignorant, or simply a disinformation plant for the Democrats.  At some point, we have to start assigning malice instead of stupidity.  No one can continue to get so many things wrong without stopping to reflect on WHY ... unless it IS intentional.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/10/23/pennsylvania-ballots-cant-be-thrown-out-for-mismatched-signatures-court-rules-in-blow-to-gop/?sh=49fa67bf4825

Hmmm maybe I'm thinking of a different state.  Maybe Arizona or Nevada that required being verified.

Doesn't really matter Biden going to win without Pennsylvania. 

Jl808

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #132 on: November 05, 2020, 03:00:09 PM »
Check out these videos from Sid Roth's guests prophesying about Trump winning this thing.

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6716J

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #133 on: November 05, 2020, 03:05:19 PM »
We've got until Dec 8th to get it all resolved and it will take every day of it

The Electoral College in 2020
The following is a summary of how the Electoral College will work in the 2020 presidential election:

Spring and Summer 2020: Nomination of Electors. The political parties in each state nominate their electors. Parties and states have different ways of going about this, but a party's presidential electors are generally loyal or consistent party members. The parties want to be sure they can rely on their electors to cast their votes for the party's nominee for president.

Nov. 3, 2020: Election Day, when voters in each state will select their presidential electors. The names of electors are not on the ballot in most states. Rather, when a voter casts a vote for a presidential candidate, s/he is also casting a vote for the electors already selected by the party of that candidate. If a majority of voters in a state vote for the Republican candidate for president, the Republican slate of electors is elected. If a majority vote for the Democratic candidate, the Democratic slate of electors is chosen.

Dec. 8, 2020: Deadline for Resolving Election Disputes. All state recounts and court contests over presidential election results must be completed by this date. (3 U.S.C. § 5). For the majority of states the date of certification is the same as for all contests, but in eight states there is a deadline that either directly references 3 USC §5 or uses similar language, requiring that disputes surrounding the selection of presidential electors be resolved in time to meet the “safe harbor” deadline: Indiana, Iowa, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia. For detailed information on state post-election processes, please visit this page.

Dec. 14, 2020: Meeting of the Electors. The electors meet in each state and cast their ballots for president and vice president. Each elector votes on his or her own ballot and signs it. The ballots are immediately transmitted to various people: one copy goes to the president of the U.S. Senate (who is also the vice president of the United States); this is the copy that will be officially counted later. Other copies go to the state's secretary of state, the National Archives and Records Administration, and the presiding judge in the district where the electors meet (this serves as a backup copy that would replace the official copy sent to the president of the Senate if it is lost or destroyed).

Dec. 23, 2020: Deadline for Receipt of Ballots. The electors' ballots from all states must be received by the president of the Senate by this date. There is no penalty for missing this deadline.

Jan. 6, 2021: Counting of the Electoral Ballots. The U.S. Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes.

Jan. 20, 2021: Inauguration Day.  The president-elect becomes the president of the United States.
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hvybarrels

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #134 on: November 05, 2020, 03:18:35 PM »
Omnigun is deliberately spreading disinfo. The message is clear and consistent establishment narrative: everything is fine, so do not believe your own lyinʻ eyes.
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omnigun

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #135 on: November 05, 2020, 03:22:40 PM »
Omnigun is deliberately spreading disinfo. The message is clear and consistent establishment narrative: everything is fine, so do not believe your own lyinʻ eyes.

I am not.   If everyone here was correct.  Why is it not in court? Trump would never hold back evidence of fraud in court.  Simple as that. 

If I can't convince anyone of that idk what I can do.  I'm trying to fight fake news.  And Trump is currently saying alot of it.   

Republicans need to focus on keeping the senate everything comes down to Georgia and its two seats. 

We need the senate to keep our gun rights.   Keep socialism out. 

drck1000

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #136 on: November 05, 2020, 03:24:10 PM »
I am not.   If everyone here was correct.  Why is it not in court? Trump would never hold back evidence of fraud in court.  Simple as that.
Courts are never corrupt? Say it ain’t so...

omnigun

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #137 on: November 05, 2020, 03:25:39 PM »
Courts are never corrupt? Say it ain’t so...

They are the least corrupt and we need to believe them to have a society. If you don't believe in the courts why believe in anything. 

Jl808

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #138 on: November 05, 2020, 03:26:53 PM »
Christians need to repent, get on their knees and pray for God's deliverance of our country.
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ren

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #139 on: November 05, 2020, 03:28:14 PM »
They are the least corrupt and we need to believe them to have a society. If you don't believe in the courts why believe in anything.

great advice / perspective from an IT SME who got scammed from a bot.
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