Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread (Read 108294 times)

omnigun

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #500 on: November 17, 2020, 09:26:06 PM »
The problems with the election are not clearly a cybersecurity issue.  For Krebs to publicly put out a contradictory statement that undermines the President's position on ELECTION TAMPERING was not his place.

Trump is not under investigation for RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!! now, so he's free to fire all the swap critters that raise their treasonous heads.

There is EVIDENCE the software from Dominion had real security and certification problems.  The results in this election show there were problems.  You have to wonder what the motivation was for Krebs to make that comment in the middle of Trump's law suits.

One can only guess, but I bet it has something to do with refilling the Swamp.

Cyber security employee, said election is secure. Gets fired,  republican's praise him for his job.  You keep saying there is evidence of Dominion having security and certification problems, but the national security agency says otherwise.   Maybe they know of the flaws and know it wasn't exploited?  Who knows.   His motivation?  Maybe he was doing his job?  You know the ones other people praised him including republicans said he was going a good job at?  Swamp critter?  That's laughable.  Its not the swamp, its the opposite, trump is creating his own swamp with only parrots like you who think he is king. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #501 on: November 17, 2020, 09:36:13 PM »
Cyber security employee, said election is secure. Gets fired,  republican's praise him for his job.  You keep saying there is evidence of Dominion having security and certification problems, but the national security agency says otherwise.   Maybe they know of the flaws and know it wasn't exploited?  Who knows.   His motivation?  Maybe he was doing his job?  You know the ones other people praised him including republicans said he was going a good job at?  Swamp critter?  That's laughable.  Its not the swamp, its the opposite, trump is creating his own swamp with only parrots like you who think he is king.

The states certified and procured Dominion systems, not the NSA.  The feds have NO mandate or authority to spend federal funding evaluating software that states control.

There are people in IT who think they know everything.  These are the people who allow hackers to get into DNC mail servers and infiltrate social media to create distrust in an election.

Ask yourself why the NSA is even looking into Dominion if there's never been any evidence of widespread cybersecurity problems in an election?  Sounds like they have enough to do with China, Russia and European hackers trying daily to compromise more important cyber systems than election machines.

There's a reason the Constitution lets the states run their own elections.  They don't want the Feds to have any influence over the processes.  NSA should not be involved.  Our elections are not a national security concern without evidence of direct international tampering.
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Inspector

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #502 on: November 18, 2020, 01:41:29 AM »
I think the election went about as good as it could have given the nature of everything that was going on.
I personally trust the results are, for the most part accurate.
I figured Biden would win due to Trump's performance and I was right.
I hoped we would keep of gain seats in congress and it looks like we have done that so I am glad there.
Trump was irresponsible in undermining the faith people have in the elections, just another example of how he has failed as a leader.
The voter turn out was bigger than it has ever been before, I am glad we got so much participation.
Hey EEF, I took you off my ignore list and this is the first post I see from you.

I just want to elaborate on the highlighted statement above. We gained seats in the house but the Democrats still have the majority and control. We lost one seat in the senate so far. It is currently 50 to 48 with Republicans having 50. But there are still 2 senate seats up for runoff elections in GA. If one or both of those senate seats go Republican then your statement about keeping seats in congress would be generally true but not completely accurate since one seat was lost in the senate. If both those seats go to the Democrats then the senate would be tied 50-50 with the tie breaker going to Kamala Harris (Or whoever is Vice President at the time). Which means the Democrats would have complete control of all of congress and the presidency. That would mean there will no longer be a system of checks and balances in our government. Which is why a vote for Biden becomes so crucial in this election. Like him or not, keeping Trump in office may have been the last line of defense assuming the Senate goes to the Democrats. We’ll just have to wait and see what the outcome of those 2 senate races will be. Unfortunately, I don’t think we’ll see the results until sometime in January.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Wchiro

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #503 on: November 18, 2020, 02:25:57 AM »
The US military seized a server in Germany.  This server received the data from the Dominion and other voting machines and that the data showed that Trump won the election by a landslide 410 electoral votes.  Even California, Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico was red which some were painted blue by the fake media,  Watch the video:

https://rumble.com/vb78yp-ep.-2331b-ds-fantasy-land-who-holds-the-power-we-the-people-operators-activ.html

Inspector

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #504 on: November 18, 2020, 03:20:59 AM »
The US military seized a server in Germany.  This server received the data from the Dominion and other voting machines and that the data showed that Trump won the election by a landslide 410 electoral votes.  Even California, Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico was red which some were painted blue by the fake media,  Watch the video:

https://rumble.com/vb78yp-ep.-2331b-ds-fantasy-land-who-holds-the-power-we-the-people-operators-activ.html
I hope all of this occurs. I want to see this go to SCOTUS.

This video offers a good question. Why would the Main Stream Media and the Democrats insist that Biden is the President Elect when it isn’t true. And it is not true. Joe Biden is not the President Elect. The election results have not been certified and called yet. Why is the left and the media insisting on a lie? There is a very good reason for it.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

omnigun

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #505 on: November 18, 2020, 06:05:02 AM »
The AP and the media have been calling elections for over 100 years why is it now only a concern?

drck1000

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #506 on: November 18, 2020, 08:08:59 AM »
I hope all of this occurs. I want to see this go to SCOTUS.

This video offers a good question. Why would the Main Stream Media and the Democrats insist that Biden is the President Elect when it isn’t true. And it is not true. Joe Biden is not the President Elect. The election results have not been certified and called yet. Why is the left and the media insisting on a lie? There is a very good reason for it.
All about the ratings baybay. . .

On the news this morning, HNN reported that "time is running out" and that many states are scheduled to certify end of the week and early Monday.  Same with when COVID first hit and many news outlets were quick to sensationalize the pandemic, when it was in China and Korea (at least at the time).  While these issues are serious, they only serve to push panic.  And sadly, so many have fallen head first into "belief". 

changemyoil66

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #507 on: November 18, 2020, 09:03:25 AM »
So now when GOP senators or officials are trying to call for an investigation or any type of recount, they are being threatened via anti Trump people.  1 of Trumps law groups has also received death threats for each attorney involved, which was why they decided to quit.

No election interference here either.  Like I said, the left wants everyone to comply, not unity.

changemyoil66

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #508 on: November 18, 2020, 09:09:00 AM »
All about the ratings baybay. . .

On the news this morning, HNN reported that "time is running out" and that many states are scheduled to certify end of the week and early Monday.  Same with when COVID first hit and many news outlets were quick to sensationalize the pandemic, when it was in China and Korea (at least at the time).  While these issues are serious, they only serve to push panic.  And sadly, so many have fallen head first into "belief".

Don't they have until Dec 24th for their electoral vote to be received in DC?  And most meet by Dec 14?  Unless there is a dead line for any disputes.

The reason why the media was so quick to call Biden is so if Trump is right and there is fraud (we have already seen it), the violence by the left will be justified in their eyes.  I watched the results hour by hour and Biden's wins were always called way ahead of any Trump wins.  Example CA only had a total of 1,000,000 votes counted and they gave CA to Biden.  Over 10,000,000 votes were cast.  Same with WA. They gave Biden WA when only 20K votes were tallied.  OR had only about 14K votes tallied and they gave that to Biden also.  Lets not forget HI, polls still open and they gave Biden HI.  Last vote wasn't cast and results released until 10pm.  The head of the election said that they cannot release any results until the last person in line votes because they don't want to influence them.  The mail in votes were done and ready to be released as soon as the last person voted.

 Then AK, had about 100K and Trump had a 2:1 lead on Biden and AK wasn't called yet.  The media is doing this to paint the picture that Biden was always ahead and is the rightful president. 

drck1000

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #509 on: November 18, 2020, 09:13:25 AM »
Don't they have until Dec 24th for their electoral vote to be received in DC?  And most meet by Dec 14?  Unless there is a dead line for any disputes.

The reason why the media was so quick to call Biden is so if Trump is right and there is fraud (we have already seen it), the violence by the left will be justified in their eyes.  I watched the results hour by hour and Biden's wins were always called way ahead of any Trump wins.  Example CA only had a total of 1,000,000 votes counted and they gave CA to Biden.  Over 10,000,000 votes were cast.  Same with WA. They gave Biden WA when only 20K votes were tallied.  OR had only about 14K votes tallied and they gave that to Biden also.  Lets not forget HI, polls still open and they gave Biden HI.  Last vote wasn't cast and results released until 10pm.  The head of the election said that they cannot release any results until the last person in line votes because they don't want to influence them.  The mail in votes were done and ready to be released as soon as the last person voted.

 Then AK, had about 100K and Trump had a 2:1 lead on Biden and AK wasn't called yet.  The media is doing this to paint the picture that Biden was always ahead and is the rightful president.
No way!  Media is like, totally unbiased. . .dude. . .

Does the media certify the election?  No, but what can they influence?  Or at least try to influence?  And it seems to be working with some. . . apparently.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #510 on: November 18, 2020, 12:13:39 PM »
The AP and the media have been calling elections for over 100 years why is it now only a concern?

The media is able to call elections based on obvious results -- races that are not toss-ups.

But, when states are so close that a recount is automatic, the state should remain a toss-up and NOT BE CALLED by ANYONE.

Until a state certifies their election results, they can change.  The media calling the elections early not only interferes with the election itself, but it creates a false opinion in the public's mind that one candidate has won, and in the face of legitimate, rightfully legal challenges, the one contesting the results is "refusing to accept the outcome."  As if the outcome was already certified.

If the margin of victory is > 2% with 90%+ districts reporting, it's a given that the race is 99.9% over.  In the case of swing states where Trump was tens of thousands of, and even over a hundred thousand, votes ahead of Biden which overnight swung to Biden (while no GOP poll watchers could verify the results), then the numbers are suspect. 

You still don't get that a fair and honest election requires the opportunity for ALL PARTIES to observe the ballot counting, right?
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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aletheuo137

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #511 on: November 18, 2020, 12:54:43 PM »
The AP and the media have been calling elections for over 100 years why is it now only a concern?
Because it's not official!

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punaperson

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #512 on: November 18, 2020, 08:26:19 PM »
The AP and the media have been calling elections for over 100 years why is it now only a concern?
It' s not only now. Why don't you ask that of Albert Gore, Jr., who, after the media called Florida for Bush, conceded the election, only to withdraw his concession the next day when it turned out the Florida result was in question, despite the media call. Gore gave up after 37 days of litigation, but not because Florida had been definitively counted accurately, but because he bowed to pressure to "just give it up and concede". I'm hoping Trump follows Hillary's advice to Biden, "Never concede under any circumstances".

changemyoil66

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #513 on: November 18, 2020, 08:55:04 PM »
It' s not only now. Why don't you ask that of Albert Gore, Jr., who, after the media called Florida for Bush, conceded the election, only to withdraw his concession the next day when it turned out the Florida result was in question, despite the media call. Gore gave up after 37 days of litigation, but not because Florida had been definitively counted accurately, but because he bowed to pressure to "just give it up and concede". I'm hoping Trump follows Hillary's advice to Biden, "Never concede under any circumstances".
I was like who TF is albert. It just sounds funny.

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punaperson

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #514 on: November 18, 2020, 09:55:09 PM »
I was like who TF is albert. It just sounds funny.

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Just trying to be respectful. I didn't want to seem "familiar" with the inventor of the internet and world-renowned climate scientist.

punaperson

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« Reply #515 on: November 18, 2020, 10:13:25 PM »
Fog City Midge from Steve Bannon's War Room Pandemic with 8 minutes of brief interviews with a few of the people who showed up in D.C. last weekend to support the President and encourage him not to give up the battle to have only legal votes counted.

BigIslandHunter

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #516 on: November 19, 2020, 11:39:07 AM »
For those interested:
Searches are better done on "duckduckgo" as this will produce better results.  Searches done on the other browser seem to produce site indicating that the event did not happen.  It is interesting that the Scytl website seems to be down.

Other websites of interest:
https://humansarefree.com/2020/11/major-bombshell-election-took-place-under-national-emergency.html
https://meaninginhistory.blogspot.com/2020/11/did-us-raid-scytl-and-seize-election.html
https://gellerreport.com/2020/11/team-trump-election-fraud-press-conference-president-donald-trump-won-by-a-landslide-and-we-are-going-to-prove-it.html/

This is my first time posting so, please be kind.

Jl808

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« Reply #517 on: November 25, 2020, 08:53:42 AM »
Trump tweets Tucker Carlson video about Big Tech Election Interference.

https://rumble.com/vbdljl-trump-tweets-video-of-tucker-carlson.html
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omnigun

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« Reply #518 on: November 27, 2020, 09:25:33 AM »
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federal-appeals-court-dismisses-trump-campaign-lawsuit-pennsylvania-voting-procedures

3 REPUBLICAN appointed judges just dismissed one of the few remaining cases Trump brought.  Guess its not looking good for his claims. 

changemyoil66

Re: Election Results 2020 / Opinions on this Election? Merged Thread
« Reply #519 on: November 27, 2020, 09:58:22 AM »
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federal-appeals-court-dismisses-trump-campaign-lawsuit-pennsylvania-voting-procedures

3 REPUBLICAN appointed judges just dismissed one of the few remaining cases Trump brought.  Guess its not looking good for his claims.
Thats what scotus is for. So its good they ruled that way.

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