What I've noticed as well and point out from time to time.  He totally misses main points and many huge picture points.  He's so apologetic about what he knows, he doesn't see anything else.  Cup already full.

Another old person saying “Ignorance is bliss”. Or he is blissful in his ignorance.

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I don’t have an extra $100 lying around that I am willing to risk losing. I value my money and the hard work it took to make that $100 too much to make that mistake more than once. As a matter of fact I can honestly say I have never fallen prey to a scammer. Ever. Because I value money and the sweat that went into earning it. And I would never teach my children that it is okay to put yourself in that position for ANY reason. No matter what the reward might be. Personally I think that is bad parenting. But what do I know?

For me, I have a lot more than $100 I could take a risk with at any time. But I would never do that for any reason. The way I see it is that $100 is 500-1000 rounds of ammo I could make to shoot that would last me a month or more. Or it could mean having to wait a month or more to buy that gun I wanted because now I have $100 less to spend on it. Or maybe I might think about that $100 less than I had to go towards a down payment on a house I tell people I am saving up for. Or if you want to look towards the future that $100 is $100 that will never go towards my child’s college fund or food. To be so cavalier about losing $100 and then not learning the only lesson there is and that is to never to take that chance again is just beyond comprehension. And because he has not learned that lesson he will hand down to his kids that it is okay to lose $100 if the possibility of the reward is there. The future of our country is in the hands of people like this.

Another old person saying “Ignorance is bliss”. Or he is blissful in his ignorance.

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I don’t have an extra $100 lying around that I am willing to risk losing. I value my money and the hard work it took to make that $100 too much to make that mistake more than once. As a matter of fact I can honestly say I have never fallen prey to a scammer. Ever. Because I value money and the sweat that went into earning it. And I would never teach my children that it is okay to put yourself in that position for ANY reason. No matter what the reward might be. Personally I think that is bad parenting. But what do I know?

For me, I have a lot more than $100 I could take a risk with at any time. But I would never do that for any reason. The way I see it is that $100 is 500-1000 rounds of ammo I could make to shoot that would last me a month or more. Or it could mean having to wait a month or more to buy that gun I wanted because now I have $100 less to spend on it. Or maybe I might think about that $100 less than I had to go towards a down payment on a house I tell people I am saving up for. Or if you want to look towards the future that $100 is $100 that will never go towards my child’s college fund or food. To be so cavalier about losing $100 and then not learning the only lesson there is and that is to never to take that chance again is just beyond comprehension. And because he has not learned that lesson he will hand down to his kids that it is okay to lose $100 if the possibility of the reward is there. The future of our country is in the hands of people like this.

I take it you don't gamble?  Do you have stocks?  If you do, do you invest in low risk?  Everything in life has risk and reward. 

I'm guessing 100$ for ammo refers to reloads.  Which you invest your time.  At my age time is money.  Couple hours of reloading is 100$ if I work. I get saving is important.  If it wasn't a scam I would save 100 or so dollars on a gun.  If the next time I don't get scammed it evens out.  If you eat a nice meal vs a cheap meal that's money "wasted".  For me there is a limit to being frugal.  I may only have one life and I can get hit by a bus at any time,  enjoy life, take calculated risks, this isn't Egypt you cant take your money to the grave.  We have different mindsets on life but doesn't mean one of us has to be right or wrong. 

I take it you don't gamble?  Do you have stocks?  If you do, do you invest in low risk?  Everything in life has risk and reward. 

I'm guessing 100$ for ammo refers to reloads.  Which you invest your time.  At my age time is money.  Couple hours of reloading is 100$ if I work. I get saving is important.  If it wasn't a scam I would save 100 or so dollars on a gun.  If the next time I don't get scammed it evens out.  If you eat a nice meal vs a cheap meal that's money "wasted".  For me there is a limit to being frugal.  I may only have one life and I can get hit by a bus at any time,  enjoy life, take calculated risks, this isn't Egypt you cant take your money to the grave.  We have different mindsets on life but doesn't mean one of us has to be right or wrong.

In poker, there's such a thing as folding.  Games have odds associated with them, and they help determine the SMART play versus the STUPID, ALMOST NO CHANCE OF WINNING play.

If you play poker the same way you approach giving strangers on the Internet PayPal money, we need to start scheduling poker nights. 

I'll bring the chips; you bring the dip!   

He played the hand.
He had a small chance of winning. (Low odds)
He wasn’t holding a good hand but wanted to see the flop.
He matched the blind with a minimum bet.
Saw the flop and folded.

He played the hand.
He had a small chance of winning. (Low odds)
He wasn’t holding a good hand but wanted to see the flop.
He matched the blind with a minimum bet.
Saw the flop and folded.

He was chasing the 2 outer. Got burned when other showed bluff. The blaming on other for not being truthful and bluffing.

 

He was chasing the 2 outer. Got burned when other showed bluff. The blaming on other for not being truthful and bluffing.

 

If he'd actually folded after putting $100 in the pot, I'd have more respect for his skill and discipline.  Instead, he checked every round, then called a $99 raise on the river with a busted straight (assuming the ante was $1).  Lost to a pair of deuces.  The only thing he had a chance of beating was a lower garbage hand. 

That's not gambling. 

That's having no idea what you're doing.

Since SOMEBODY missed the point of the post of a f*cking dollar ...

Assume OMIGOD was on the button.  Now, when the hand goes "Check", Check", "Check", "Raise", and OMIGOD is faced with calling or re-raising a $100 bet, instead of folding and keeping his $100, he calls the raise nothing but Ace high, because "Gambling."

Poker requires more skill than most games.  Anyone who calls it gambling is saying they don't know enough about the game to be good at it.

I take it you don't gamble?  Do you have stocks?  If you do, do you invest in low risk?  Everything in life has risk and reward. 

I'm guessing 100$ for ammo refers to reloads.  Which you invest your time.  At my age time is money.  Couple hours of reloading is 100$ if I work. I get saving is important.  If it wasn't a scam I would save 100 or so dollars on a gun.  If the next time I don't get scammed it evens out.  If you eat a nice meal vs a cheap meal that's money "wasted".  For me there is a limit to being frugal.  I may only have one life and I can get hit by a bus at any time,  enjoy life, take calculated risks, this isn't Egypt you cant take your money to the grave.  We have different mindsets on life but doesn't mean one of us has to be right or wrong.

One more thing.  In casino gambling, including poker, if you're playing against the house, you're starting out at a disadvantage.  They set the rules, they have the odds on their side, and they can afford a few loses whereas you might be busted after a few tries.

The scammer was "The House."  He set up the game, he created the constraints for play, and he had time to prepare before you ever received that first email.

You basically walked in, put your money on the table, and said, "Show me how this works."

If this is what you call gambling, I'd have to disagree.  I call it, "Being a fish." 

If you understand the game, you have a better chance at achieving a favorable outcome.  People who walk up to a $100 minimum Black Jack table and haven't the first clue about basic strategy might as well wipe their ass with their money for all the good it's doing them.  Maybe the dealer busts, and the noob wins that first hand.  It doesn't matter.  Chances are good he's going to give it all back -- if not that session, a later one.  The same greed you blamed will increase as the noob wins a few times ("I AM INVINCIBLE!).  That's when you find him at the cashier's cage asking for a credit card cash advance.  Remnants of "Lampoon's Vegas Vacation."

If $100 is no different than water to you, then I see how you could be scammed multiple times.  I BET this will not be the last time.

What you do doesn't affect me directly, but I hate that another scammer succeeded and will scam again. 

In the grand scheme of things ...

He was chasing the 2 outer. Got burned when other showed bluff. The blaming on other for not being truthful and bluffing.

 

I agree with DRCK’s analysis all the way.

If he'd actually folded after putting $100 in the pot, I'd have more respect for his skill and discipline.  Instead, he checked every round, then called a $99 raise on the river with a busted straight (assuming the ante was $1).  Lost to a pair of deuces.  The only thing he had a chance of beating was a lower garbage hand. 

Flapp,
I don’t recall him saying he put a dollar down payment and issued a second payment of $99.
Big Blind obviously $100.
How do you play poker ?

If he'd actually folded after putting $100 in the pot, I'd have more respect for his skill and discipline.

I guess you now have more respect for his skills and discipline.
One of the few guys on here apparently.   

I take it you don't gamble?  Do you have stocks?  If you do, do you invest in low risk?  Everything in life has risk and reward. 

I'm guessing 100$ for ammo refers to reloads.  Which you invest your time.  At my age time is money.  Couple hours of reloading is 100$ if I work. I get saving is important.  If it wasn't a scam I would save 100 or so dollars on a gun.  If the next time I don't get scammed it evens out.  If you eat a nice meal vs a cheap meal that's money "wasted".  For me there is a limit to being frugal.  I may only have one life and I can get hit by a bus at any time,  enjoy life, take calculated risks, this isn't Egypt you cant take your money to the grave.  We have different mindsets on life but doesn't mean one of us has to be right or wrong.

You still don’t get it. There is no comparison here. I don’t gamble, tho my wife likes to play nickel slots when we go to Vegas. And when you purchase stocks at least you are buying something tangible like partial ownership in a company. What did you buy? Fucking idiot. You got ripped off and you are still trying to use analogies that don’t apply to make it sound like everyone does it. Nobody here does the stupid things you did.

There is no comparison to investing and getting ripped off by a scammer. Next time suggest to the guy you are buying from to use an escrow company and see him run like hell. If he is legit he’ll go for it. If not you save yourself from getting ripped off. Stupid ass. Eating nice meat is not being so stupid you get ripped off by a scammer. At least if you eat nice meat you get what you paid for. How is that the same as being stupid like you are? You got nothing for $100. Being frugal is not spending money you shouldn’t spend. If you can’t afford it you shouldn’t spend it.

But let me tell you about myself. For over 40 years I brought my own lunch to work everyday. Could I have afforded to eat out everyday for lunch with all of my friends? Of course. And occasionally I did. By not eating out I put almost $20 back into my pocket almost every day. And I took that $100 a week that I saved and invested it. Which let me remind you is NOT the same as allowing yourself to get ripped off and then trying to justify it by using analogies that are not even close to being the same thing. I invested in stocks when I was younger. I decided I didn’t like the risk and moved to investing in real estate. I have done quite well for myself all the while earning less than you do. If you read books by guys who worked regular jobs and became rich they all have one thing in common. It was not how much money they made that got them rich. It was how much money they didn’t spend that made them rich. Most of them never bought a new car in their lives until they were already rich. Most of them made their own lunch and brought it with them to work every day. Most of them were frugal because they were smart enough to realize that a penny saved is a penny earned. You can say what you want and do what you want but until you realize the truth about how the world really works, you will never be successful working a regular job with the attitude you have. I became successful because I didn’t take unwarranted risks with my money like you do. I didn’t go out and eat expensive steaks even tho I could afford to. If you work a regular job you have a choice, live for the now like you are doing and have little to nothing when you get old. Or watch what you spend every day and don’t take stupid risks with your money. And take what you save everyday and invest it in something tangible that will make you money over the long haul. You can’t argue with my success and you can’t argue with the real rich guys who became successful working regular jobs and were frugal when it was appropriate. That is the difference between our generations. You think in the now and I think for the future. And the real difference is I acted for the future. Being frugal when appropriate was a big part of that. But taking everything I saved by not taking risks is what got me and every other rich guy who worked a regular job where they are today.

And if I didn’t say it enough before, quit trying to make yourself look like everyone else here by trying to compare your stupidity with everyone else here who invest their money. It’s not the same thing. Otherwise all you are saying is that everyone else here is as stupid as you are. And I can attest that nobody else here is as stupid as you are.

Since SOMEBODY missed the point of my post over a f*cking fictitious dollar ...

Assume OMIGOD was on the button.  Now, when the hand goes "Check", Check", "Check", "Raise", and OMIGOD is faced with calling or re-raising a $100 bet, instead of folding and keeping his $100, he calls the raise with nothing but Ace high, because "Gambling."

Poker requires more skill than most games.  Anyone who calls it gambling is saying they don't know enough about the game to be good at it.

Since SOMEBODY missed the point of my post over a f*cking fictitious dollar ...

Assume OMIGOD was on the button.  Now, when the hand goes "Check", Check", "Check", "Raise", and OMIGOD is faced with calling or re-raising a $100 bet, instead of folding and keeping his $100, he calls the raise with nothing but Ace high, because "Gambling."

Poker requires more skill than most games.  Anyone who calls it gambling is saying they don't know enough about the game to be good at it.

He didn’t miss the point he ignored it because Orange Man Bad.

You make a good point about poker requiring skill as well as luck. I forgot how much skill is involved. Which is why I don’t play poker. Not only am I not good at it, if it were not for bad luck I’d have no luck at all.

lose money

He didn’t miss the point he ignored it because Orange Man Bad.

You make a good point about poker requiring skill as well as luck. I forgot how much skill is involved. Which is why I don’t play poker. Not only am I not good at it, if it were not for bad luck I’d have no luck at all.

I didn’t ignore it.
He was just trolling Omni by twisting the story, as trolls are want to do.
Besides he now has more respect for Omni’s skill and discipline. 
and besides, In Flapp’s second scenario, if he’s fat stacking and holding an ace it’s not a bad call to see the flop.
(Though he didn’t have an ace.)
I think DRCK’s scenario is spot on.

I voted for Orange Man. 
Just didn’t put my head up his arse and block out the light.  Still need to be able to see.
My brother and I voted voted for him.
That made two out of 12 in our immediate family counting nieces and nephews.
( immediate starting from my Mom.)

I enjoy poker because of the skill aspect.
We play nickel a chip in my hood.

lose money

Bottom line right there.

Any of y’all want to play poker. NLTH, I am down...

I'll see your 9mms and raise you 6 .44 magnums.

I'll see your 9mms and raise you 6 .44 magnums.

Too rich for my blood.
Ammo is the gold standard right now.

Any of y’all want to play poker. NLTH, I am down...

Dime a chip. $10 buy in.
Can re-load if bust.
I’m down for a friendly game.
All we need is a garage.

It’s amazing how much I’ve won and lost on any particular night at our neighborhood nickel a chip, $2.50 buy in neighborhood games.
Re-loads can be addictive, especially when your chasing.

Too rich for my blood.
Ammo is the gold standard right now.

Dime a chip. $10 buy in.
Can re-load if bust.
I’m down for a friendly game.
All we need is a garage.

It’s amazing how much I’ve won and lost on any particular night at our neighborhood nickel a chip, $2.50 buy in neighborhood games.
Re-loads can be addictive, especially when your chasing.

I’m down. I’ll play for low limit to more. To me, me it about the read of players.

If he'd actually folded after putting $100 in the pot, I'd have more respect for his skill and discipline.  Instead, he checked every round, then called a $99 raise on the river with a busted straight (assuming the ante was $1).  Lost to a pair of deuces.  The only thing he had a chance of beating was a lower garbage hand. 

That's not gambling. 

That's having no idea what you're doing.

Since SOMEBODY missed the point of the post of a f*cking dollar ...

Assume OMIGOD was on the button.  Now, when the hand goes "Check", Check", "Check", "Raise", and OMIGOD is faced with calling or re-raising a $100 bet, instead of folding and keeping his $100, he calls the raise nothing but Ace high, because "Gambling."

Poker requires more skill than most games.  Anyone who calls it gambling is saying they don't know enough about the game to be good at it.

Wait what?  I "folded" after the 100$.  I put no more into the scam once I knew it was a scam.

He played the hand.
He had a small chance of winning. (Low odds)
He wasn’t holding a good hand but wanted to see the flop.
He matched the blind with a minimum bet.
Saw the flop and folded.

Pretty much this.

Any of y’all want to play poker. NLTH, I am down...

I love poker.  Last time I played was Vegas and that was the only place I made money,  Beating the house didn't work

You still don’t get it. There is no comparison here. I don’t gamble, tho my wife likes to play nickel slots when we go to Vegas. And when you purchase stocks at least you are buying something tangible like partial ownership in a company. What did you buy? Fucking idiot. You got ripped off and you are still trying to use analogies that don’t apply to make it sound like everyone does it. Nobody here does the stupid things you did.

There is no comparison to investing and getting ripped off by a scammer. Next time suggest to the guy you are buying from to use an escrow company and see him run like hell. If he is legit he’ll go for it. If not you save yourself from getting ripped off. Stupid ass. Eating nice meat is not being so stupid you get ripped off by a scammer. At least if you eat nice meat you get what you paid for. How is that the same as being stupid like you are? You got nothing for $100. Being frugal is not spending money you shouldn’t spend. If you can’t afford it you shouldn’t spend it.

But let me tell you about myself. For over 40 years I brought my own lunch to work everyday. Could I have afforded to eat out everyday for lunch with all of my friends? Of course. And occasionally I did. By not eating out I put almost $20 back into my pocket almost every day. And I took that $100 a week that I saved and invested it. Which let me remind you is NOT the same as allowing yourself to get ripped off and then trying to justify it by using analogies that are not even close to being the same thing. I invested in stocks when I was younger. I decided I didn’t like the risk and moved to investing in real estate. I have done quite well for myself all the while earning less than you do. If you read books by guys who worked regular jobs and became rich they all have one thing in common. It was not how much money they made that got them rich. It was how much money they didn’t spend that made them rich. Most of them never bought a new car in their lives until they were already rich. Most of them made their own lunch and brought it with them to work every day. Most of them were frugal because they were smart enough to realize that a penny saved is a penny earned. You can say what you want and do what you want but until you realize the truth about how the world really works, you will never be successful working a regular job with the attitude you have. I became successful because I didn’t take unwarranted risks with my money like you do. I didn’t go out and eat expensive steaks even tho I could afford to. If you work a regular job you have a choice, live for the now like you are doing and have little to nothing when you get old. Or watch what you spend every day and don’t take stupid risks with your money. And take what you save everyday and invest it in something tangible that will make you money over the long haul. You can’t argue with my success and you can’t argue with the real rich guys who became successful working regular jobs and were frugal when it was appropriate. That is the difference between our generations. You think in the now and I think for the future. And the real difference is I acted for the future. Being frugal when appropriate was a big part of that. But taking everything I saved by not taking risks is what got me and every other rich guy who worked a regular job where they are today.

And if I didn’t say it enough before, quit trying to make yourself look like everyone else here by trying to compare your stupidity with everyone else here who invest their money. It’s not the same thing. Otherwise all you are saying is that everyone else here is as stupid as you are. And I can attest that nobody else here is as stupid as you are.

You missed my point but ok.  I get what you are saying.  Its not like I spend frivolously daily.  I also take home lunch and save.  But saving isn't my life.  Its all about balance.  Take some risks, have some fun but you never know what life will give you.  I got a 401k, savings, stocks and I have fun money.  Plan for the future but enjoy the present, is my philosophy.  I got budgets for many things, money to live, money to save and money to enjoy. What I did was a bit dumb I admit that I paid 100$ on a gamble but its not going to destroy my life losing 100 bucks.  Just gotta compensate in other areas of fun money.  Not eating out for a couple of weeks  or not buying a gun accessory.  Got a set monthly budget for "fun" and unfortunately this scam took some out of that.  Live, learn, move on.