Election Fraud Evidence Thread (Read 529640 times)

drck1000

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #900 on: December 09, 2020, 03:40:11 PM »
Its the donations to him.  I believe that is what they are referring too.  If I remember correctly all donations made to "combat the steal" are his to use as he wants.   I think he got like 200mil in donations or something.
But I actually don't think this is wrong, people are free to do what they want with their money and trump made disclaimers so its perfectly legit.
So is this campaign donations?  Or donations to Trump?  Or donations to a "cause" that Trump has control over? 

So I call Go Fund Me stuff for donkeys like Bicep guy lining his pocket. . .
« Last Edit: December 09, 2020, 05:07:52 PM by drck1000 »

omnigun

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #901 on: December 09, 2020, 03:51:05 PM »
So is this campaign donations?  Or donations to Trump?  Or donations to a "cause" that Trump has control over? 

So I call Go Fund Me stuff for donkey's like Bicep guy lining his pocket. . .

I don't know the specifics of what legal entity or entries donations go to.  Never plan to donate to him so I didn't fully research it.

ren

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #902 on: December 09, 2020, 03:57:54 PM »
I don't know the specifics of what legal entity or entries donations go to.  Never plan to donate to him so I didn't fully research it.

if you don't know then STFU
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #903 on: December 09, 2020, 04:12:37 PM »
Its the donations to him.  I believe that is what they are referring too.  If I remember correctly all donations made to "combat the steal" are his to use as he wants.   

I think he got like 200mil in donations or something.

But I actually don't think this is wrong, people are free to do what they want with their money and trump made disclaimers so its perfectly legit.

I don't know the specifics of what legal entity or entries donations go to.  Never plan to donate to him so I didn't fully research it.

if you don't know then STFU

When he has to qualify his "fact" with not just one, not two, but THREE different modifiers to avoid accountability for posting fake facts, you know he's just spewing bullshit.

He's well on his way to the "I guess facts are what I like think they are or something" universe.  Why anyone still gives him the time of day, I just don't understand.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #904 on: December 09, 2020, 04:39:46 PM »
When he has to qualify his "fact" with not just one, not two, but THREE different modifiers to avoid accountability for posting fake facts, you know he's just spewing bullshit.

He's well on his way to the "I guess facts are what I like think they are or something" universe.  Why anyone still gives him the time of day, I just don't understand.
It's currently 04:39 PM HST  ;D

 :rofl:

kidding, kidding

 :crazy:

drck1000

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #905 on: December 09, 2020, 04:40:20 PM »
if you don't know then STFU
^^^ that

macsak

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #906 on: December 09, 2020, 04:41:51 PM »
Its true, hence why I have never said trump is a "sexual assaulter" it was never proven in court. Settlements don't count haha.  So until he is convicted.  I just think he has unknown ethical, moral and business decisions.  It doesn't look good for him but without proof he is innocent, until proven guilty.

so he is innocent until proven guilty, unless you "THINK he has unknown ethical, moral and business decisions."

macsak

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #907 on: December 09, 2020, 04:43:30 PM »
When he has to qualify his "fact" with not just one, not two, but THREE different modifiers to avoid accountability for posting fake facts, you know he's just spewing bullshit.

He's well on his way to the "I guess facts are what I like think they are or something" universe.  Why anyone still gives him the time of day, I just don't understand.

because we like to see how many times he can be wrong before he blames it on, like, the spell checker...

QUIETShooter

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #908 on: December 09, 2020, 04:58:35 PM »
I don't know the specifics of what legal entity or entries donations go to.  Never plan to donate to him so I didn't fully research it.

if you don't know then STFU

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Wchiro

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #909 on: December 09, 2020, 05:19:26 PM »
Its true, hence why I have never said trump is a "sexual assaulter" it was never proven in court. Settlements don't count haha.  So until he is convicted.  I just think he has unknown ethical, moral and business decisions.  It doesn't look good for him but without proof he is innocent, until proven guilty.



Trump never wanted to run for President or to get into politics for that matter.  The military asked him to run because of all the corruption they saw during the Obama administration.  I'm pretty sure they checked his background with a fine toothed comb and found nothing that his opponents could use.  Military intelligence has his back.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #910 on: December 09, 2020, 11:44:55 PM »
If you watched the Michigan hearings on election fraud, you have to have seem Rep. Cynthia Johnson.  She was gaveled down by the chair many, many times for being out of order.  She said things like:

I want these witnesses sworn in.  None of them are under oath. 

They are lying.  I KNOW they are lying. 

Only one of them is a Detroiter.


She had no actual questions when she would interrupt "for a question."  She just tried to demean and slander the witnesses, because she didn't like what they were saying.

Well, Rep. Johnson has been disciplined ... stripped of her committee assignments ... after she posted a video of herself On FB Tuesday saying,

After an investigation, she may face additional consequences. 

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you Trumpers. Be careful. Walk lightly. We ain’t playing with you.

Enough of the shenanigans. Enough is enough.

And for those of you who are soldiers, you know how to do it. Do it right.
Be in order. Make them pay.”


The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #911 on: December 10, 2020, 06:08:45 AM »
When he has to qualify his "fact" with not just one, not two, but THREE different modifiers to avoid accountability for posting fake facts, you know he's just spewing bullshit.

He's well on his way to the "I guess facts are what I like think they are or something" universe.  Why anyone still gives him the time of day, I just don't understand.

Since you are not capable of using Google.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.azcentral.com/amp/6486608002

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-55192699

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/donations-trump-leadership-pac-pay-family-finance-2024-presidential-bid-2020-11%3famp

So far from what I am reading i am correct.   But don't let that stop you or anyone else.  All you had to do was Google it, now you all look a little foolish tbh.

Inspector

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #912 on: December 10, 2020, 06:17:17 AM »
When he has to qualify his "fact" with not just one, not two, but THREE different modifiers to avoid accountability for posting fake facts, you know he's just spewing bullshit.

He's well on his way to the "I guess facts are what I like think they are or something" universe.  Why anyone still gives him the time of day, I just don't understand.
But he is the forum’s self appointed arbiter of Stupidity truth. He makes shit up and and lies and then tries to BS his way through the rest. Just like a real fact checking website does. What I enjoy the most is when he is caught in his own lies and then tries to back peddle his way out of it. That is the most fun to watch.  :rofl:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

drck1000

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #913 on: December 10, 2020, 07:19:19 AM »
But he is the forum’s self appointed arbiter of Stupidity truth. He makes shit up and and lies and then tries to BS his way through the rest. Just like a real fact checking website does. What I enjoy the most is when he is caught in his own lies and then tries to back peddle his way out of it. That is the most fun to watch.  :rofl:

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"This money could easily — and legally — end up in his own pocket in the coming years," Paul Ryan, the vice president of policy and litigation at Common Cause, said in a CNN report on Monday. Save America will have to release its fundraising numbers and expenses in its first public report on December 3, according to CNN.

Again a spin on things. Passing opinions as facts is one. Second is it’s legal campaign funding. Think any other politician doesn’t do that? Then finally, how is it “lining his pockets”, as in fact. Maybe true, but opinion being parroted as fact. Where’s the tangible proof. Why is he convicted without being “proven in court”.

robtmc

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #914 on: December 10, 2020, 07:39:42 AM »
If you watched the Michigan hearings on election fraud, you have to have seem Rep. Cynthia Johnson. 
Good God, what IS that thing?

punaperson

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #915 on: December 10, 2020, 07:42:29 AM »
Good God, what IS that thing?
She and Stacey Abrams are fighting it out for the top spot.

MauiAxis

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #916 on: December 10, 2020, 07:43:16 AM »
From aletheuo

“It maybe true but you and I don't get to decide that. Last I checked, don't have a law degree, do you?”

Yes you are correct.  I do not have a law degree.  Apparently you don’t either. Let’s wait and see what SCOTUS has to say about this latest Trump attempt to overthrow democracy in our country.

robtmc

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #917 on: December 10, 2020, 07:43:54 AM »
Why anyone still gives him the time of day, I just don't understand.
The little pissant is either a masochist or paid to troll here like that HPD weirdo.

Blocked along with the other liberals, but some of you do spend far too much energy with the little tµrd.

punaperson

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #918 on: December 10, 2020, 07:54:41 AM »
I present the full article here so people don't even have to click a link to see the reasoning presented by both sides. Given that a RINO flipped to be the deciding denying vote, it's important to read what her "reasoning" was, and the counter arguments. The majority voted to not hear the evidence. smh.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/12/09/michigan-supreme-court-election-fraud-case/3867388001/

Michigan Supreme Court, in 4-3 decision, refuses to hear election fraud case

Paul Egan
Detroit Free Press

LANSING — The Michigan Supreme Court, in a 4-3 decision, denied requests from two voters who backed President Donald Trump and sought an election audit and other actions to address alleged fraud related to absentee ballots.

Angelic Johnson and Linda Lee Tarver, both members of Black Voices for Trump, petitioned the state Supreme Court directly on Nov. 26. They sought a range of court actions, in addition to an audit, including: a declaration that Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson had violated their constitutional rights; seizure of ballots, ballot boxes and poll books; appointment of a special master or legislative committee to investigate claims of fraud related to the counting of absentee ballots at the TCF Center in Detroit,  and an injunction preventing Gov. Gretchen Whitmer from certifying Michigan's presidential election results, which has already happened.

The three Democratic-nominated justices — Chief Justice Bridget McCormack and Justices Richard Bernstein and Megan Cavanagh — were joined by Republican nominee Elizabeth Clement in denying the requested actions without first hearing oral arguments.

Justices Brian Zahra, David Viviano and Stephen Markman dissented, saying the court should call for additional briefings and oral arguments and hear the case fully on an expedited basis.

Clement, in concurring with the majority on the court, wrote that some areas of Michigan law remain unsettled surrounding elections, audits and what actions can be taken by those who believe a statewide presidential election has been wrongly decided.

However, "this court routinely chooses not to hear cases which raise interesting and unsettled legal questions in the abstract when we conclude the case would be a poor practical vehicle for addressing those questions — which is my view of this case and these questions," Clement wrote.

"Moreover, I believe it would be irresponsible to continue holding out the possibility of a judicial solution to a dispute that it appears must be resolved politically."

Clement also cited problems with the way the case was presented to the court, saying "it is not entirely clear exactly what the nature of petitioners’ complaint even is," and that due to constitutional separation of powers, the court would never entertain a request to appoint a committee of the Legislature.

Zahra, in a dissent that was joined by Markman, said Johnson and Tarver "have presented a significant constitutional question pertaining to the process and scope of the constitutional right to an election audit," which should be properly heard.

Viviano, in a separate dissent that was also joined by Markman, said he wanted to "highlight the lack of clarity in our law regarding the procedure to adjudicate claims of fraud in the election of presidential electors," and even urged the Legislature to address that lack of clarity.

"By closing the courthouse door on these petitioners, the court today denies them any ability to have their claims fully considered by the judiciary," Viviano wrote.

"I believe it is incumbent upon the court, in these circumstances, to provide guidance so that, no matter the outcome, the people are able to understand and exercise their constitutional rights in an effective and meaningful manner."

The Michigan Supreme Court did not explore the merits or deficiencies of the petitioners' claims about alleged fraud related to absentee ballots or the counting of those ballots at the TCF Center in Detroit, but similar claims have been rejected by other Michigan courts at both the state and federal level.

aletheuo137

Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
« Reply #919 on: December 10, 2020, 08:23:24 AM »
From aletheuo

“It maybe true but you and I don't get to decide that. Last I checked, don't have a law degree, do you?”

Yes you are correct.  I do not have a law degree.  Apparently you don’t either. Let’s wait and see what SCOTUS has to say about this latest Trump attempt to overthrow democracy in our country.
It's all in our constitution and laws to read. No law degree required. I thought we live in a representative republic. But what do I know.

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