The COVID Cult (Read 1503426 times)

ren

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1040 on: December 19, 2020, 01:29:57 PM »
It is quite fascinating that there was a worldwide, somewhat universal approach to do the opposite of human nature - eliminate the inherent hunting and gathering activities we as humans do to survive. We essentially did it to ourselves. We forget that there are inherent dangers to everything that we do but we acknowledge them and accept the risk. Life goes on like a flowing body of water. If that water stops, stagnation sets it and things die.
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robtmc

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1041 on: December 19, 2020, 01:41:01 PM »
One of the greatest injustices of "modern"  aka nanny-state (or Karen) culture is the attempt to eliminate all risk.

Ride a bike without a helmet, go light fireworks without an adult present, God forbid.   

From what I see, it sucks to be a kid growing up today, with all these safety nazis, I mean cultists, everywhere telling you NO.

The wimpiness of the millennial soy boys may be a direct result of the mandatory risk avoidance culture.

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1042 on: December 19, 2020, 01:41:22 PM »
It is quite fascinating that there was a worldwide, somewhat universal approach to do the opposite of human nature - eliminate the inherent hunting and gathering activities we as humans do to survive. We essentially did it to ourselves. We forget that there are inherent dangers to everything that we do but we acknowledge them and accept the risk. Life goes on like a flowing body of water. If that water stops, stagnation sets it and things die.

We as an advanced society have no need to "hunt and gather". We can get food and water without doing either.   We are social creatures, but with technology we don't have to do it physically.   All activities have risk but certain activities have more.   Most humans are risk adverse, meaning we make choices to do the least risky.  This is natural for survival.  We build and do things to make it as safe as possible.  Seatbeats, crumple zones, abs, etc makes cars safer because we use them often.  This includes our health.  I have no idea what you mean about stagnation.  Idk how lockdowns can "stagnant" and kill people...I can see how getting covid and not being able to breath can.   But you not being able to go to a bar shouldn't kill you....

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1043 on: December 19, 2020, 01:50:14 PM »
We as an advanced society have no need to "hunt and gather". We can get food and water without doing either.   We are social creatures, but with technology we don't have to do it physically.   All activities have risk but certain activities have more.   Most humans are risk adverse, meaning we make choices to do the least risky.  This is natural for survival.  We build and do things to make it as safe as possible.  Seatbeats, crumple zones, abs, etc makes cars safer because we use them often.  This includes our health.  I have no idea what you mean about stagnation.  Idk how lockdowns can "stagnant" and kill people...I can see how getting covid and not being able to breath can.   But you not being able to go to a bar shouldn't kill you....

incorrect
we choose to do something when the marginal gains outweigh the marginal costs
we continue to do something when the margin gains outweigh the marginal costs
we stop doing something when the marginal costs outweigh the marginal gains
simple economics...

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1044 on: December 19, 2020, 02:36:01 PM »
incorrect
we choose to do something when the marginal gains outweigh the marginal costs
we continue to do something when the margin gains outweigh the marginal costs
we stop doing something when the marginal costs outweigh the marginal gains
simple economics...

True but when presented two choices with similar outcomes most people take the less risky option. Proven drug vs experimental.

Inspector

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1045 on: December 19, 2020, 02:39:01 PM »
The GREATEST Generation took risks. That is why they are known as the GREATEST Generation.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

ren

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1046 on: December 19, 2020, 02:39:19 PM »
The GREATEST Generation took risks. That is why they are known as the GREATEST Generation.

 :thumbsup:

and we are still enjoying the harvest from which they planted.
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macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1047 on: December 19, 2020, 02:43:48 PM »
The GREATEST Generation took risks. That is why they are known as the GREATEST Generation.

and now we have the millenials, the SAFEST generation

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1048 on: December 19, 2020, 02:45:00 PM »
True but when presented two choices with similar outcomes most people take the less risky option. Proven drug vs experimental.

shooting your mouth off vs. pulling out of a bet...

Inspector

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1049 on: December 19, 2020, 02:46:21 PM »
and now we have the millenials, the SAFEST generation
You don’t get very far in life playing it safe.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1050 on: December 19, 2020, 02:52:51 PM »
Here one of the uber Safety Cult members (accidentally?) reveals an aspect of the Safety Cult strategy and end goals that isn't usually spoken about out loud for public consumption.

A secondary issue is that Yang apparently is unaware that there is no evidence that the Pfizer vaccine prevents a person from carrying a live viral load sufficient to infect other persons... which is why some of the Cultists have come out in the past week with public statements that the restrictions (masks, distancing, travel restrictions, gathering size and location and exactly who may attend, will continue indefinitely no matter how many people get vaccinated.

As the article points out, once such an ID is issued and required for one thing, there is no end to how that requirement could be required for all manner of "access" (food shopping, medical treatment, etc.) It can't happen here, right? (How many people a year ago thought the government could force small businesses to close and go bankrupt because of a disease that has a 99.97% survival rate for those under 70?)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/12/another_bad_idea_from_democrat_andrew_yang.html

Another bad idea from Democrat Andrew Yang

Andrew Yang is what passes for 'innovative' among Democrats, and he's brimming with bad ideas.

The loopy tech entrepreneur is all in for industrial processes and one-size fits all technology, not applied to tech, but applied to people.

He favors a guaranteed income for all Americans whether they work or not, not exactly a Capt. John Smith, convinced such a concept could be administered by an all-reaching government, both efficiently and without corruption.

Now he has another doozy among his proposals:

Bar codes. Kid you not. Bar codes to prove you've been vaccinated.

According to Fox News:

Businessman and former presidential candidate Andrew Yang encountered some criticism on Friday after he suggested that Americans should have a downloadable bar code that verifies they've received the coronavirus vaccine.

"Is there a way for someone to easily show that they have been vaccinated - like a bar code they can download to their phone?" he asked on Twitter. "There ought to be."

He added that it's "[t]ough to have mass gatherings like concerts or ballgames without either mass adoption of the vaccine or a means of signaling."

drck1000

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1051 on: December 19, 2020, 02:58:10 PM »
The GREATEST Generation took risks. That is why they are known as the GREATEST Generation.
Many knew the risks and charged anyways. Those were true heroes. Valor

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1052 on: December 19, 2020, 03:00:06 PM »
Here one of the uber Safety Cult members (accidentally?) reveals an aspect of the Safety Cult strategy and end goals that isn't usually spoken about out loud for public consumption.

A secondary issue is that Yang apparently is unaware that there is no evidence that the Pfizer vaccine prevents a person from carrying a live viral load sufficient to infect other persons... which is why some of the Cultists have come out in the past week with public statements that the restrictions (masks, distancing, travel restrictions, gathering size and location and exactly who may attend, will continue indefinitely no matter how many people get vaccinated.

As the article points out, once such an ID is issued and required for one thing, there is no end to how that requirement could be required for all manner of "access" (food shopping, medical treatment, etc.) It can't happen here, right? (How many people a year ago thought the government could force small businesses to close and go bankrupt because of a disease that has a 99.97% survival rate for those under 70?)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/12/another_bad_idea_from_democrat_andrew_yang.html

Another bad idea from Democrat Andrew Yang

Andrew Yang is what passes for 'innovative' among Democrats, and he's brimming with bad ideas.

The loopy tech entrepreneur is all in for industrial processes and one-size fits all technology, not applied to tech, but applied to people.

He favors a guaranteed income for all Americans whether they work or not, not exactly a Capt. John Smith, convinced such a concept could be administered by an all-reaching government, both efficiently and without corruption.

Now he has another doozy among his proposals:

Bar codes. Kid you not. Bar codes to prove you've been vaccinated.

According to Fox News:

Businessman and former presidential candidate Andrew Yang encountered some criticism on Friday after he suggested that Americans should have a downloadable bar code that verifies they've received the coronavirus vaccine.

"Is there a way for someone to easily show that they have been vaccinated - like a bar code they can download to their phone?" he asked on Twitter. "There ought to be."

He added that it's "[t]ough to have mass gatherings like concerts or ballgames without either mass adoption of the vaccine or a means of signaling."

Are you really surprised that he would want something like that?

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MassConfusion

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1053 on: December 19, 2020, 03:06:35 PM »
I am wondering what this is all really about. If I told a bunch of people something big was going to happen and it fizzled and fell flat on its face, nothing I said after would be taken seriously. For example, Common core doesn't work period. People somehow still believe in public education. Fda says round up is safe... Everything in California causes cancer, those prop 65 labels are on how many things? Some do but some a lot would have to be ingested or whatever in large quantities over a period of time which is extremely unlikely. Our elections are completely free from fraud except by those darn Russians.
Funny that a cold could bring the world to its knees. Now they are going forward with a global reset. Very little news coverage, but it is I'm the works. Is this a coincidence, 'conspiracy theory' or just opertune timing. Either they aren't letting a good Crisis  go to waste or they are taking advantage of the situation whether or not it was caused intentionally. If they steering people through means of obedience and fear, what legitimacy would it have?
Now the story is you still can't go about your normal life even if you get your approved vaccine. Something is rotten.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. ― Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
 “The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.” ― Mark Twain

Inspector

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1054 on: December 19, 2020, 03:41:53 PM »
Many knew the risks and charged anyways. Those were true heroes. Valor
Truth. And there are not many of them left.

When they came back from the war most would not talk about the horrors they had to endure. They just wanted to have a normal American life.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1055 on: December 19, 2020, 03:42:46 PM »

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1056 on: December 19, 2020, 03:51:01 PM »
Taking risks don't always make you great.  Don't think you are any more great deciding to not wear a seatbelt in a car or helmet on a bike.  Going out to a bar during a pandemic isn't the mark of greatness.  In my opinion greatness comes other things.  Like using science, instead of faith. Humans taking control of their destiny.  Embracing technology to invent new solutions.  Banding together as Americans and the world so many people survive.  Adapting and overcoming issues. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1057 on: December 19, 2020, 03:51:46 PM »


How many "excess deaths" are related more to the lockdowns, unemployment, lack of routine medical treatment, and suicides?

You want to assume they are all COVID-19 victims causing the increase. 

According to the CDC:

Quote
...deaths from circulatory diseases, Alzheimer disease and dementia, and respiratory diseases
have increased in 2020 relative to past years (7), and it is unclear to
what extent these represent misclassified COVID-19 deaths or deaths indirectly related to the
pandemic (e.g., because of disruptions in health care access or utilization).

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1058 on: December 19, 2020, 03:53:45 PM »
Taking risks don't always make you great. 

Not taking risks will always prevent you from being great.

Name one great person in history who never took a risk.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1059 on: December 19, 2020, 04:18:13 PM »
I have met some very brave men and women who take risks everyday to keep us all safe.  :shaka: They are extraordinary people and I am grateful to them.

One of many: https://www.larue.com/page/robert-horrigan-dedication/

Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.

-Andrew Jackson

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