The COVID Cult (Read 1503865 times)

QUIETShooter

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #740 on: December 09, 2020, 04:54:27 PM »
History will show that we've been had.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

MassConfusion

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #741 on: December 09, 2020, 06:31:32 PM »
Sorry, I saw this somewhere and just couldn't help but to compare it to our current set of circumstances. How far and pathetically we have fallen.

It is from cs lewis
https://www.swordofthespirit.net/bulwark/april2020p7.htm

Let fear rule you. I weep for what we have become.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. ― Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
 “The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.” ― Mark Twain

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #742 on: December 09, 2020, 06:33:15 PM »
For your reading enjoyment... unless you're a Safety Cult member.

Michelle Malkin: COVIDGATE: The Corruption of Clinical Trials (Part One)

https://cnsnews.com/commentary/michelle-malkin/michelle-malkin-covidgate-corruption-clinical-trials-part-one


Michelle Malkin: COVIDGATE (Part Two): Clinical Trials and Crusader Bias

https://cnsnews.com/commentary/michelle-malkin/michelle-malkin-covidgate-part-two-clinical-trials-and-crusader-bias


Michelle Malkin: COVIDGATE (Part 3): Attack on Informed Consent

https://cnsnews.com/commentary/michelle-malkin/michelle-malkin-covidgate-part-3-attack-informed-consent

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #743 on: December 09, 2020, 06:35:32 PM »
History will show that we've been had.
The history of March and April of 2020 have already shown that... in March and April.

Then month after month of more of the same, only even more idiotic.

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #744 on: December 09, 2020, 10:06:17 PM »
and omni always ignores the fact that africa has no public health system, lots of disease and poverty, and no way of enforcing masking social distancing and lockdowns, yet the rate of spread is LOW...

It cant be that they don't test that much and couldn't tell if it was covid that caused deaths or sickness...Impossible. 

tim808

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #745 on: December 09, 2020, 10:48:12 PM »
Omni
The US took a while to get enough test kits.  I’d be surprised if a less developed country had enough test kits.

What countries had low spread?   

Among the developed countries it seems only the aggressive ones have low numbers.

MassConfusion

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #746 on: December 09, 2020, 11:44:51 PM »
It cant be that they don't test that much and couldn't tell if it was covid that caused deaths or sickness...Impossible.
Wait a tick. Are we talking about those tests with the dubious accuracy that even the creator of the test said was unfit for this particular application?
What good is a test that is going to return positive for a virus from a pawpaw fruit?
At least have the decency to admit when you are being scammed.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. ― Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
 “The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.” ― Mark Twain

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #747 on: December 10, 2020, 06:03:42 AM »
Wait a tick. Are we talking about those tests with the dubious accuracy that even the creator of the test said was unfit for this particular application?
What good is a test that is going to return positive for a virus from a pawpaw fruit?
At least have the decency to admit when you are being scammed.

Can't speak to the accuracy of tests.  No test is 100% but they keep unoriginal improving the tests.  I don't think it's a scam there's are many different tests not sure which one you are referring to. 

Omni
The US took a while to get enough test kits.  I’d be surprised if a less developed country had enough test kits.

What countries had low spread?   

Among the developed countries it seems only the aggressive ones have low numbers.

I was being sarcastic towards mack. He said Africa had low infection rates.  I try trying to tell him it was because of lack of testing most likely.

robtmc

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #748 on: December 10, 2020, 07:35:39 AM »
History will show that we've been had.
No coincidence it coincides with this nations largest election fraud.......

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #749 on: December 10, 2020, 07:39:05 AM »
Here the New York Times repeats the Safety Cult dogma written of above wherein the "public health safety mandates" will need to be maintained essentially forever, because "THE VIRUS!!!" In this case specifically "cloth face coverings" (aka "masks"), because, as stated above, there is currently no evidence that a successfully vaccinated person may not be a carrier of enough viral load to be infectious to others. And since you can't prove a negative, this will be the case with all the measures (close the dangerous small businesses, etc.) as long as even one case (even falsely designated as a positive RT-PCR test result) of THE VIRUS!!! is detected anywhere. the maskholes are delusional (as per the psychiatrist commentary above) and therefore nothing presented as concrete verifiable evidence of their stupidity will ever have any bearing on their decisions. Why do you want to kill grandma?

New York Times: You Must Wear A Mask Even After Getting A Vaccine

https://thefederalist.com/2020/12/09/new-york-times-you-must-wear-a-mask-even-after-getting-a-vaccine/

A New York Times article published Tuesday claims that even after people receive a dose of either the Pfizer or Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, they will need to wear a mask in public, marking a stark contrast to what elected leaders and health officials have implied about a return to “normal” once a vaccine arrives.

“Here’s Why Vaccinated People Still Need to Wear a Mask,” the headline reads.

While trials from both of the main U.S. vaccine manufacturers and suppliers suggest that the vaccine is approximately 95 percent effective, a number that was labeled “truly striking,” by Dr. Anthony Fauci, the New York Times asserts that masks, should still be in regular use even after the vaccine is distributed and administered.

“If vaccinated people are silent spreaders of the virus, they may keep it circulating in their communities, putting unvaccinated people at risk,” the article warns, ignoring the science showing that mask efficacy is questionable.

Even though the article appears to express concerns that the vaccine which is injected into muscle might not provide antibodies to the nose and throat to prevent the spread of the virus, the author refutes this claim several paragraphs later by quoting experts and a study that “suggests that a strong immune response in the blood would also protect mucosal tissues.”

“Only people who have virus teeming in their nose and throat would be expected to transmit the virus, and the lack of symptoms in the immunized people who became infected suggests that the vaccine may have kept the virus levels in check,” the author wrote.

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #750 on: December 10, 2020, 07:40:19 AM »
No coincidence it coincides with this nations largest election fraud.......
Never let a crisis (even a fake manufactured one (all the better really)) go to waste.

drck1000

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #751 on: December 10, 2020, 08:26:57 AM »
Disconnect here is folks are arguing on a "common sense" level, but where are they getting the info that supports their "sense"?  Many misconceptions I've seen from MSM can readily be addressed or clarified by medical professionals when explaining in "non-medically trained" public. 

Again, another parallel to gun laws.  Antigun folks always jumping on Australia as a shining example of success of gun control, which can be readily countered.  Same thing with comparing to shining example of XXX for COVID response.  What is the context?  Are we getting the complete context?  Typically not, at least from the MSM info. . .

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #752 on: December 10, 2020, 08:41:09 AM »
Months ago, the president of TAzmania sent some samples for test.  1 was a animal, the other was a fruit.  Both came back positive.  He had a press conference about it too.  I'm going to assume the president of a country will have the best testing available to him.

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #753 on: December 10, 2020, 08:49:43 AM »
Not that it's any kind of news, but here is a shining example from today of how moronically stupid, and oblivious, these Safety Cult people (such as Melinda Gates) are. Strongly recommend reading the whole article, which includes excerpts of articles from the past several days from left-oriented sources like The New York Times, The Atlantic, The Guardian, Vox, Los Angeles Times, etc. about just how wrong the "public health strategies" have been both in terms of minimizing THE VIRUS!!! AND in terms of the damage done to society and individuals as a result of those unresearched strategies that broke with the long tradition of epidemic strategies (quarantine the sick, not the healthy, etc.).

“We Hadn’t Really Thought Through the Economic Impacts” ~ Melinda Gates

– December 9, 2020

https://www.aier.org/article/we-hadnt-really-thought-through-the-economic-impacts-melinda-gates/

In a wide-ranging interview in the New York Times, Melinda Gates made the following remarkable statement: “What did surprise us is we hadn’t really thought through the economic impacts.” A cynic might observe that one is disinclined to think much about matters than do not affect one personally.

It’s a maddening statement, to be sure, as if “economics” is somehow a peripheral concern to the rest of human life and public health. The larger context of the interview reveals the statement to be even more confused. She is somehow under the impression that it is the pandemic and not the lockdowns that are the cause of the economic devastation that includes perhaps 30% of restaurants going under, among many other terrible effects.

She doesn’t say that outright but, like many articles in the mainstream press over this year, she very carefully crafts her words to avoid the crucial subject of lockdowns as the primary cause of economic disaster. It’s possible that she actually believes this virus is what tanked the world economy on its own but that is a completely unsustainable proposition.

Further, her comments provide a perfect illustration of the core problem all along: most of the people who have been advocating lockdowns in fact have no actual experience in managing pandemics. To many of these, Covid-19 became their new playground to try out an unprecedented experiment in social and economic management: shutting down travel, businesses, schools, churches, and issuing stay-at-home orders that smack of totalitarian impositions.

aletheuo137

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #754 on: December 10, 2020, 08:56:42 AM »
This was very thought provocating...

https://rumble.com/vbr7hx-ep.-1412-the-biggest-scandal-in-modern-times-the-dan-bongino-show.html

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Inspector

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #755 on: December 10, 2020, 09:03:08 AM »
This was very thought provocating...

https://rumble.com/vbr7hx-ep.-1412-the-biggest-scandal-in-modern-times-the-dan-bongino-show.html

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I listen to Dan regularly. He is not the most refined person in the world. But he doesn’t pull any punches either. Plus he is currently going through Chemo Therapy and he still is doing his videos. Gotta give the guy props.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

aletheuo137

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #756 on: December 10, 2020, 10:02:43 AM »
I listen to Dan regularly. He is not the most refined person in the world. But he doesn’t pull any punches either. Plus he is currently going through Chemo Therapy and he still is doing his videos. Gotta give the guy props.
Yes he is. I've started praying for his health. Definitely, my cup of tea.

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Mdotweber

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #757 on: December 10, 2020, 06:43:41 PM »
"Dont forget, incoming fire has the right of way"-Clint Smith?

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #758 on: December 10, 2020, 08:29:01 PM »
Fairly lengthy article by Sundance at Conservative Treehouse. Reprinted from a few months ago.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/12/10/the-usefulness-of-covid-19-fear/

Here's how it starts off...

The Usefulness of COVID-19 Fear

There is a COVID-19 virus; however, COVID is not more dangerous than all other flu-like viruses that impact the respiratory system. COVID-19 is very manageable and doesn’t carry a higher fatality rate.  [Usefulness As A Narrative]

Why is COVID-19 being disproportionately hyped as such a dangerous threat, when the reality of the statistical danger is much less than the intense level of hype?… That is the key question.

The answer is… social changes under the guise of COVID-19 mitigation, are the entry point for the goals and aspirations of the political left on a national and global scale. COVID-19 is a virus, but also a very important political weapon, and we are about to discover exactly what the purpose of the hype is all about. What follows will help understand; and when you encounter the fear it will help to reconcile what people cannot figure out.

Joe Biden is an avatar; a political pawn; a cognitively declining guy who has no idea what is happening around him. The people behind the Biden campaign, those in real control of what this is about, have not hidden their goals and aspirations. These are not stupid people. They are scheming, conniving, ever-planning, ever-manipulating & Machiavellian types within the political system; lusting for power, influence and affluence.

What they are planning to do is weaponize COVID-19 to attain ideological objectives. This is why they hyped the fear within it for almost a year. Nothing within their plan requires the approval or consent of any representative body in Washington DC. COVID is the tool to “fundamentally change” the way the United States exists.

MassConfusion

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #759 on: December 10, 2020, 11:11:15 PM »
Don't be alarmed, old people die all the time...


https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/doctor-on-cnn-dont-be-alarmed-if-elderly-die-after-receiving-covid-vaccine
/sarcasm
No they don't. That is a dirty lie. The vid kills them all.
No vaccine has ever killed anyone either ever.
/sarcasm
Seriously, who buys this pseudo science crap they are shoveling?
Has the better part of the nation become that intellectually lazy or brainwashed that they believe?
How does an honest intelligent person fight something like this when the avenues of protest, appeals, injunctions and all forms of peaceful nonviolent resistance have failed? Do we just roll over and let them do to us as they wish? Do we sell ourselves out and trade our freedom for security?
Everyone will have to decide where to draw a line and what course of action to take eventually.  I can only hope things work out well in the end but I am not a person of faith.
May his Noodly Appendages guide us.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. ― Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
 “The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.” ― Mark Twain