THE VIRUS!!! Safety Cult members know no bounds. Something to look forward to! Maybe at every retail store in addition to airports, etc.

https://www.studyfinds.org/dogs-detect-covid-by-sniffing-armpits/

Dogs trained to detect people infected with COVID-19 – by sniffing their armpits

THE VIRUS!!! Safety Cult members know no bounds. Something to look forward to! Maybe at every retail store in addition to airports, etc.

https://www.studyfinds.org/dogs-detect-covid-by-sniffing-armpits/

Dogs trained to detect people infected with COVID-19 – by sniffing their armpits

This is very promising, just like bomb sniffing dogs.  Temperature scans don't always get everyone especially the asymptomatic.

Let's have a Safety Cult member (one I don't block) comment here on the patent claim and those who benefit financially from it (one of their names rhymes with "fauci").

Seven minute video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uZzoznjjKg&feature=youtu.be

This is very promising, just like bomb sniffing dogs.  Temperature scans don't always get everyone especially the asymptomatic.

They can also go through peoples cars and find drugs that do not exist in order to get around probable cause requirements. Quite remarkable!

They can also go through peoples cars and find drugs that do not exist in order to get around probable cause requirements. Quite remarkable!

"This dog doesn't like the smell of your armpits. No flight for you!"

They can also go through peoples cars and find drugs that do not exist in order to get around probable cause requirements. Quite remarkable!

I never said anything like that.   They are not used for crimes...

Tsa had a dog at the airport one time when I was traveling.  I don’t know what it was sniffing for but when the dog showed up, it allowed the line to move much faster.

Before the dog came, it felt like the line was not moving.  (I don’t know if they had stopped the line because they had to wait for the dog....but the other times there were no dogs that I could see)

I’m fine with covid sniffing dogs if it decreases lines.  If it did detect someone or me having covid that would be a bummer to miss the flight but I think most people could deal with it

If you read the report, not just the linked article, it states:

The aim of this proof-of-concept study was to evaluate if trained dogs could
discriminate between sweat samples from symptomatic COVID-19 positive
individuals

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0243122

So, NO, this is NOT a way to screen for ASYMPTOMATIC COVID-19 carriers.

I never said anything like that.   They are not used for crimes...

Drug sniffing dogs are regularly trained by police to cue false positives on command in order to violate suspects 4th amendment rights. I imagine that expanding police dog powers to include semi-dangerous viruses is going to be used in the exact same way, specifically when the government runs out of money and they have to make up the difference with asset forfeiture.

Drug sniffing dogs are regularly trained by police to cue false positives on command in order to violate suspects 4th amendment rights. I imagine that expanding police dog powers to include semi-dangerous viruses is going to be used in the exact same way, specifically when the government runs out of money and they have to make up the difference with asset forfeiture.

I don't know that working dogs are trained incorrectly in order to signal false positives.  Sometimes the dog is reacting to residue left from a previous narcotic in the vehicle that the dog can detect.  I once had a beagle at HNL alert to my carry-on.  He was looking for agricultural substances.  The handler checked the bag, then asked if I'd had any fruits or veggies in there recently.  So happens, I was taking fruit from the Naval Air Facility Atsugi mess hall at breakfast to have later.  Beagles and German Shepherds have an extraordinarily powerful sense of smell.  The smallest scent can lead to a positive indication.

What we do know is that not all dogs are trained 100% to associate the behavior of actually finding a scent with the reward/praise they are expecting.  Sometimes they will associate the behavior of giving a positive signal with the reward. It could be bad training, or it might just be the dog hasn't figured out the difference between finding a scent and "SAYING" he found a scent.  He gets rewarded either way in the field.

There was a woman who said she and her dogs could find human remains where others had failed.  Sure enough, her dog alerted to minute bone fragments that turned out to be human remains in several cases where no other dogs or searchers found anything.  In the end, it was proven she'd trained the dog to alert on some cue she was giving, and she would plant the remains herself without anyone seeing her do it.

It all comes down to one thing -- if this "proof of concept" only works with symptomatic subjects, then is this method of detection really better than the existing medical observation and measurement methods?  If so, to what degree?  I can see this as a possible way to augment the screening, but taking someone's armpit sweat for sniff-tests is more time-consuming and invasive than simply using a no-contact thermometer or infrared sensor.

It all comes down to one thing -- if this "proof of concept" only works with symptomatic subjects, then is this method of detection really better than the existing medical observation and measurement methods?  If so, to what degree?  I can see this as a possible way to augment the screening, but taking someone's armpit sweat for sniff-tests is more time-consuming and invasive than simply using a no-contact thermometer or infrared sensor.

I'd say that bottom line is really: "Follow the money".

Re "testing":

Prices for COVID-19 diagnostic tests vary across the largest hospitals in each state

Confirmation of an active SARS-CoV-2 infection (the virus that causes COVID-19) is done via tests that use molecular “PCR” amplification and antigen-based lab technology. Data from 78 hospitals with listed prices yielded 134 distinct prices for diagnostic tests. The prices ranged between $20 – $850 per diagnostic test, with a median of $127. About half of test charges (51%) were priced between $100-$199, and nearly one in five (19%) were priced above $200.

For the past two weeks the DAILY number of tests averages just under 2 MILLION per day. Do the math.

The dog strategy of the Safety Cult would be mere millions of dollars, so likely not a high priority except to the niche group that would benefit, far smaller than the overall Pharma group benefiting from testing, treating, blah blah blah.

The really big bucks are in the patents. The CDC holds the patents on SARS Coronavirus (note: "natural" things cannot be patented). A guy named Fauci is on those patents.

Here's a very brief (7 minute) discussion re the patents, and the financial implications, by the founder of Linguistics Genomics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uZzoznjjKg&feature=youtu.be

Vaxxx should arrive today around 11:30 per the 1003 news.  Not all 81K, but like 5K.  DOH will be onsite to make sure it arrives in temp and NG will implement the roll out.

I remember seeing a KITV survey that only about 44% of people surveyed will get the vaxxx willingly in HI.  They didn't show the sample size.  But after reading the anti 2a comments on gun articles posted, I'm gonna assume their target audience are liberals.

Vaxxx should arrive today around 11:30 per the 1003 news.  Not all 81K, but like 5K.  DOH will be onsite to make sure it arrives in temp and NG will implement the roll out.

I remember seeing a KITV survey that only about 44% of people surveyed will get the vaxxx willingly in HI.  They didn't show the sample size.  But after reading the anti 2a comments on gun articles posted, I'm gonna assume their target audience are liberals.

81k is by the end of the month, includes 30k+ of moderna for nursing homes provided it gets approved late this week or early next week
CVS and walgreens will be administering in the nursing homes
the state and private hospitals will be administering pfizer to tier 1a and 1b
5 k is the first shipment
13k was the total first order

Drug sniffing dogs are regularly trained by police to cue false positives on command in order to violate suspects 4th amendment rights. I imagine that expanding police dog powers to include semi-dangerous viruses is going to be used in the exact same way, specifically when the government runs out of money and they have to make up the difference with asset forfeiture.

You got proof of this?  Never heard of it.   

From the Hawaii Tribune-Herald last week (including the spelling error in the headline):

Poll: Fewer than half of Hawaii residents plan to be vacciniated [sic]

(O)nly 44% of respondents said they expect to take a COVID-19 vaccine when it becomes available, with an additional 37% unsure whether they will or not.

The degree of public confidence in a vaccine appears to have decreased since August, when a similar survey found that 51% of Hawaii residents planned to be vaccinated.

Dan Brinkman, East Hawaii Regional CEO, Hawaii Health Systems Corp., said internal polling among Hawaii Medical Center found similar numbers — of the 643 employees who responded, 44% said they would take the vaccine, with 28% undecided. [I.e. 28% a definite NO... What's wrong with those frontline health care workers? Don't the they know this pandemic is going to kill everyone... yeah, it'll take a while given the 1.35% total fatality rate, and then almost exclusively in people over 70 and with multiple comorbidities... still, I'm surprised the hospital won't mandate vaccination... there are a LOT of Cult members there.]

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Cars lined up for free food in Hilo last week (I have to wonder what percentage of those people are Safety Cult members and encouraging their own dependence on government, and maybe like it):

Vaxxx should arrive today around 11:30 per the 1003 news.  Not all 81K, but like 5K.  DOH will be onsite to make sure it arrives in temp and NG will implement the roll out.

I remember seeing a KITV survey that only about 44% of people surveyed will get the vaxxx willingly in HI.  They didn't show the sample size.  But after reading the anti 2a comments on gun articles posted, I'm gonna assume their target audience are liberals.

I hope it goes smoothly.   Wonder when they will have enough so I can get a vaccine.   Hope over time more people will get the vaccine.  It's probably going to be of those instances were some people start first and scales up in acceptance. 

You got proof of this?  Never heard of it.

The question is, has it been proven in court?  So until it is, it neither happened or didn't happen. Schrdengers cat.

Drug sniffing dogs are regularly trained by police to cue false positives on command in order to violate suspects 4th amendment rights. I imagine that expanding police dog powers to include semi-dangerous viruses is going to be used in the exact same way, specifically when the government runs out of money and they have to make up the difference with asset forfeiture.

You're going to need to provide the exact citations and links to the court rulings that found dogs violating the Constitution. And what the sentences were for the criminal dogs.

[EDIT: changed beat me by 7 seconds! damn.]

You're going to need to provide the exact citations and links to the court rulings that found dogs violating the Constitution. And what the sentences were for the criminal dogs.

[EDIT: changed beat me by 7 seconds! damn.]

Conviction of the handler.... don't think you can convict a dog.  There's plenty of convictions of cops planting evidence.  So we know that does happen unfortunately. 

I hope it goes smoothly.   Wonder when they will have enough so I can get a vaccine.   Hope over time more people will get the vaccine.  It's probably going to be of those instances were some people start first and scales up in acceptance.

young, healthy people like yourself are at the bottom of tier 3
may be late spring or early summer before you get a chance, depends on how many people pass when their tier comes up