It was mentioned earlier "somebody" said that we should trust the experts since they know better than us in their field.  Also stated that it would be foolish not to.

I mentioned that I'm not foolish enough to just take their word for it.

Well, this is a good example as to why I am a forever skeptic.

Thank you punaperson for sharing the article.

Fauci again caught in lies, misinformation, ignorance, whatever. And today is St. Fauci Day in Washington D.C. That's how fucked up shit is there. Home to the Queen of the Safety Cult, Mayor Muriel Bowser... though I suspect it's nearly a tie at the top of the royalty chain with the Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot and Michigan governor Gretchen Witless Whitmer.

90% of the population vaccinated to achieve herd immunity? and 40% saying they won't get vaccinated. There's gonna be a mask mandate and cancelled Christmas and Thanksgiving and Fourth of July, etc., well, forever. Fuckin' Safety Cult Fascists.

https://notthebee.com/article/so-fauci-just-admitted-that-hes-been-lying-to-americans-about-herd-immunity

Here's the whole article:

So Fauci just admitted that he's been lying to Americans about herd immunity

Fauci told the New York Times today that he's been lying about how many people would need to be vaccinated in order for herd immunity take hold in America.

Or, as NYT puts it, he's been "quietly shifting that number" and "deliberately moving the goal posts."

BEHOLD:

How Much Herd Immunity Is Enough?

Scientists initially estimated that 60 to 70 percent of the population needed to acquire resistance to the coronavirus to banish it. Now Dr. Anthony Fauci and others are quietly shifting that number upward.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/24/health/herd-immunity-covid-coronavirus.html#click=https://t.co/j18nUYZ3cV

Recently, a figure to whom millions of Americans look for guidance — Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, an adviser to both the Trump administration and the incoming Biden administration — has begun incrementally raising his herd-immunity estimate.

In the pandemic's early days, Dr. Fauci tended to cite the same 60 to 70 percent estimate that most experts did. About a month ago, he began saying "70, 75 percent" in television interviews. And last week, in an interview with CNBC News, he said "75, 80, 85 percent" and "75 to 80-plus percent."

In a telephone interview the next day, Dr. Fauci acknowledged that he had slowly but deliberately been moving the goal posts. He is doing so, he said, partly based on new science, and partly on his gut feeling that the country is finally ready to hear what he really thinks.

Hard as it may be to hear, he said, he believes that it may take close to 90 percent immunity to bring the virus to a halt — almost as much as is needed to stop a measles outbreak.
...
"When polls said only about half of all Americans would take a vaccine, I was saying herd immunity would take 70 to 75 percent," Dr. Fauci said. "Then, when newer surveys said 60 percent or more would take it, I thought, ‘I can nudge this up a bit,' so I went to 80, 85."

I hope I do not need to explain how big of a deal it is that during a pandemic, the nation's top infectious disease expert has been deliberately misleading (read: LYING TO) the public because he thought they might not be ready to hear the truth.

Waiting until polls show certain numbers before telling Americans what he believes is true? The heck is that?

NYT couldn't even spin it to make him sound good.

Of ALL people involved with this trainwreck called Corona, HE is supposed to be the one operating solely on statistics and facts, and not "gut feelings." It's why we're supposed to trust everything he says, remember!

It was mentioned earlier "somebody" said that we should trust the experts since they know better than us in their field.  Also stated that it would be foolish not to.

I mentioned that I'm not foolish enough to just take their word for it.

Well, this is a good example as to why I am a forever skeptic.

Thank you punaperson for sharing the article.

As someone who works in medicine. One of the things i try to help people do (in my personal life) is to seek evidence. Evidence through meta analytical studies or jorunals from scientific literature. The issue with the medical field imo is this call to authority.

Ask any nurse or doctor in your family. What you'll find is that everyone flocks to them and asks for medical advice and honestly the sad part is, they take it to heart. Its not to say that we as medical providers offer poor advice. Its that without showing someone where we got this advice, its near hearsay. This is why Dr. Oz imo is the biggest piece of shit on earth. He knowingly uses his medical degree and previous expertise in cardiac medicine to then use that authority on every aspect of healthcare. Its just simply not how it works.

The question when we find ourselves lost on masks, herd immunity, vaccines, etc. Is multifold. Yes we can look up multiple interviews from people we "trust" but NEVER stop there. Go and look up medical research. Look up previous studies on viruses and vaccines related to herd immunity. See for yourself what the data says.

Its funny how the world says "trust science" and at the same time claim how wearing a cloth mask will save you and all of us from this covid pandemic, knowing very well covid had airborne properties which cannot be stopped via cloth / surgical face mask.

It was mentioned earlier "somebody" said that we should trust the experts since they know better than us in their field.  Also stated that it would be foolish not to.

I mentioned that I'm not foolish enough to just take their word for it.

Well, this is a good example as to why I am a forever skeptic.

Thank you punaperson for sharing the article.

Remember when Comey said the FBI and DOJ are apolitical, yet he weighed his decision to inform Congress of reopening the Clinton email investigation a couple of weeks before the 2016 election using POLITICAL factors -- namely, he thought Hildabeast had the election in the bag, and with early and absentee balloting, she had little risk of losing based on his amending his original testimony before Congress.

Bill Barr held onto the Hunter Biden investigation info until after the 2020 election to avoid hurting the Biden campaign.  Did he stop to think that maybe that information was so important to the country that he SHOULD release it?  Voters deserve to know who they might be electing as President.

Now we have Fauci admitting he lied about the science to push his political agenda -- manipulating the public's behavior with fake "facts."

These are major decisions affecting the entire nation in the hands of one person each time. 

These examples prove that no matter how trustworthy someone associated with government may have been, they are ALL -- every single one of them -- susceptible to the idea that they are making their decision based on what's best for the nation as a whole EVEN THOUGH it might be unconstitutional, unlawful, unethical, etc.

Bottom line:  unless they are willing to release the details they based their decisions on, and the data can be independently verified by outside experts, their "advice" will always come with the caveat, "Trust me.  I'm with the government."

As someone who works in medicine. One of the things i try to help people do (in my personal life) is to seek evidence. Evidence through meta analytical studies or jorunals from scientific literature. The issue with the medical field imo is this call to authority.

Ask any nurse or doctor in your family. What you'll find is that everyone flocks to them and asks for medical advice and honestly the sad part is, they take it to heart. Its not to say that we as medical providers offer poor advice. Its that without showing someone where we got this advice, its near hearsay. This is why Dr. Oz imo is the biggest piece of shit on earth. He knowingly uses his medical degree and previous expertise in cardiac medicine to then use that authority on every aspect of healthcare. Its just simply not how it works.

The question when we find ourselves lost on masks, herd immunity, vaccines, etc. Is multifold. Yes we can look up multiple interviews from people we "trust" but NEVER stop there. Go and look up medical research. Look up previous studies on viruses and vaccines related to herd immunity. See for yourself what the data says.

Its funny how the world says "trust science" and at the same time claim how wearing a cloth mask will save you and all of us from this covid pandemic, knowing very well covid had airborne properties which cannot be stopped via cloth / surgical face mask.

You speak the truth. We are humans and our knowledge is not as infinite as the universe we occupy no matter what we are labeled as i.e. experts, doctors etc.
The problem is the interpretation of the information and the "science" that evolves from it. It is being politicized not only with Covid but in other research as well. Imagine all the funding gone for research programs that find a cure.

Haha. "DecadeS long battle". Now there's a Safety Cult member who really wants to sell his books! At least some of the Cultists are now starting to slowly leak a more accurate assessment of their plans. As sheeple become conditioned to (obviously) unthinkingly following tyrannical irrational evidence-less diktats, slowly roll out more, more severe, and lengthier restrictions... watch the sheeple eat it up and attack those who utter objections based on actual science. B A A A A H! B A A A A A H!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/msnbc-doom-gloom-doc-dont-get-overly-optimistic-covid-19-vaccine-decades-long-battle-video/

MSNBC Doom and Gloom Doc: Don’t Get Overly Optimistic About the Covid-19 Vaccine, We’re in For a “Decades-Long Battle” (VIDEO)

MSNBC rolled out a doom and gloom doc Thursday morning who warned Americans not to get overly optimistic about a Covid vaccine because we are in for a “decades-long battle.”

Dr. William Haseltine promoted his books on Covid as he fear-mongered.

Dr. Haseltine doesn’t want Americans to forget about Covid and go on with their lives because he has books to sell.

“We need to follow the rules and we are not following the rules,” the doctor said as he warned people against “vaccine euphoria.”

“I think in the next few weeks that we have our own homegrown strains, and we have to start thinking about adjusting the vaccines. So this is probably going to be much more like a decades-long battle that we have with the flu than a once and done battle that we’ve had with polio,” he said.

“15 days to slow the spread” turned into “lockdown orders until we have a vaccine” to “even with a vaccine we need to wear masks and stay home for decades.”

Video (2:14) embedded in tweet: https://twitter.com/i/status/1342135106669051904

i invite our "trust the experts" members to look into Dr Fauci and his history with HIV/AIDS...

Fauci again caught in lies, misinformation, ignorance, whatever. And today is St. Fauci Day in Washington D.C. That's how fucked up shit is there. Home to the Queen of the Safety Cult, Mayor Muriel Bowser... though I suspect it's nearly a tie at the top of the royalty chain with the Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot and Michigan governor Gretchen Witless Whitmer.

90% of the population vaccinated to achieve herd immunity? and 40% saying they won't get vaccinated. There's gonna be a mask mandate and cancelled Christmas and Thanksgiving and Fourth of July, etc., well, forever. Fuckin' Safety Cult Fascists.

https://notthebee.com/article/so-fauci-just-admitted-that-hes-been-lying-to-americans-about-herd-immunity

Here's the whole article:

So Fauci just admitted that he's been lying to Americans about herd immunity

Fauci told the New York Times today that he's been lying about how many people would need to be vaccinated in order for herd immunity take hold in America.

Or, as NYT puts it, he's been "quietly shifting that number" and "deliberately moving the goal posts."

BEHOLD:

How Much Herd Immunity Is Enough?

Scientists initially estimated that 60 to 70 percent of the population needed to acquire resistance to the coronavirus to banish it. Now Dr. Anthony Fauci and others are quietly shifting that number upward.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/24/health/herd-immunity-covid-coronavirus.html#click=https://t.co/j18nUYZ3cV

Recently, a figure to whom millions of Americans look for guidance — Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, an adviser to both the Trump administration and the incoming Biden administration — has begun incrementally raising his herd-immunity estimate.

In the pandemic's early days, Dr. Fauci tended to cite the same 60 to 70 percent estimate that most experts did. About a month ago, he began saying "70, 75 percent" in television interviews. And last week, in an interview with CNBC News, he said "75, 80, 85 percent" and "75 to 80-plus percent."

In a telephone interview the next day, Dr. Fauci acknowledged that he had slowly but deliberately been moving the goal posts. He is doing so, he said, partly based on new science, and partly on his gut feeling that the country is finally ready to hear what he really thinks.

Hard as it may be to hear, he said, he believes that it may take close to 90 percent immunity to bring the virus to a halt — almost as much as is needed to stop a measles outbreak.
...
"When polls said only about half of all Americans would take a vaccine, I was saying herd immunity would take 70 to 75 percent," Dr. Fauci said. "Then, when newer surveys said 60 percent or more would take it, I thought, ‘I can nudge this up a bit,' so I went to 80, 85."

I hope I do not need to explain how big of a deal it is that during a pandemic, the nation's top infectious disease expert has been deliberately misleading (read: LYING TO) the public because he thought they might not be ready to hear the truth.

Waiting until polls show certain numbers before telling Americans what he believes is true? The heck is that?

NYT couldn't even spin it to make him sound good.

Of ALL people involved with this trainwreck called Corona, HE is supposed to be the one operating solely on statistics and facts, and not "gut feelings." It's why we're supposed to trust everything he says, remember!

i invite our "trust the experts" members to look into Dr Fauci and his history with HIV/AIDS...

It’s below him to do that. Arrogance does that to you. 

It’s below him to do that. Arrogance does that to you. 

he/she/it is going to say that it's not true unless it was tried in a court of law...

he/she/it is going to say that it's not true unless it was tried in a court of law...

You are not the only one who posts fake news. According to the little guy that is.

I really liked this article. Author touches on several aspects of Safety Cult irrationality, and includes links to articles backing his conclusions re the insanity.

https://pjmedia.com/columns/david-solway-2/2020/12/23/why-do-we-continue-to-follow-nonsensical-covid-rules-n1227670

Why Do We Continue to Follow Nonsensical COVID Rules?
   
The only demonstrable result of government-imposed COVID-19 lockdowns has been the destruction of national economies, the crippling of domestic and cultural life, the suffering and death of multitudes due to untreated prior medical conditions, and the drastic rise in suicide rates. The lockdowns themselves have seemed to do little to prevent the onset of the disease, hence one lockdown after another has led to no discernible effect—apart from the fact that the virus appears to strike primarily a designated older cohort of the population already suffering from comorbidities. A recent graph charting the effects of repeated lockdowns in the province of Ontario would appear to indicate that the lockdowns themselves are super-spreaders. Texas Tech professor Gilbert Berdine sums up: “After taking the unprecedented economic depression into account, history will likely judge these lockdowns to be the greatest policy error of this generation.”

The same applies, mutatis mutandis, to the mask mandate, somewhat less destructive but equally absurd. After touting home-made, cloth, and sundry other masks for six months, Canada’s Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his Chief Public Health Officer Theresa Tam have discovered that Canadians should be wearing three-layer masks—a tacit admission that the single- and double-ply masks we have been wearing for all this time are patently inadequate. Apparently, no-ply also works, given that our Minister of Health Patty Hajdu was spotted at Toronto’s Pearson Airport unabashedly maskless and happily smiling, like her American counterparts Anthony Fauci at a baseball game and Governor Newsom of California at his favorite restaurant.

In fact, masks do not screen out (or keep in) viral microns averaging 100 nanometers in size; the weave of all masks, with the partial exception of the medical N-95, is far too large to repel the coronavirus particle, which varies between 60nm and 140nm. Further, masks may cause hypoxia and consequent immune deficiency through the ingestion of one’s own CO2. It gets worse. A 50-state-wide controlled study showed that there is no correlation between mask mandates and fewer cases. On the contrary, there is a reverse correlation: non-masking states and counties did better than their masking counterparts. There is no weeding around the graphic evidence. One wonders if CO2 -forced immunity depletion had something to do with this.
...

The Surgeon General of the United States Jerome Adams advises, “I hope that people will do their research and do the right thing for themselves and for their communities.” Of course, Adams assumes that people will follow the official guidelines, recommendations, and mandates, the presumable “right thing”—but what if prolonged and meticulously conducted personal research leads to other conclusions? Adams has nothing to say about this outcome. It must be admitted, however, that the odds regarding individual citizens actively pursuing a research program on their own initiative, exercising their curiosity, investigating the validity of government edicts, wishing to learn about what has disrupted their lives, spending a few hours reading a book—is probably statistically insignificant.

Locked-down California runs out of reasons for surprising surge

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/23/california-covid-surge-450315?fbclid=IwAR0FtMopQ41H0OZVhuw1DNPkWy6yXkWeVX0kRqxLN9pFjofyfNmAUBP1CPU

Yeah, another example of the Safety Cult liars spewing scientifically baseless garbage justified by the "precautionary principle". They never had any real evidence of asymptomatic spread (the recent Chinese study follow over 1,700 asymptomatic positive-tested people and didn't trace even one single case to them), but just pulled shit out of their ass (where they keep their head), just like all the other crap. Where's the peer reviewed evidence that 3 feet, 6 feet, or 12 feet is the "real" "safe" anti-social distance? That's right there isn't any. Where's the peer reviewed evidence that an unsafe gathering size is 10 and not 9 or 11? That's right, there isn't any. Bullshit on top of bullshit on top of bullshit... and the sheeple go "BAAAAH! PUT YOUR MASK ON!!".

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/new-research-further-suggests-asymptomatic-spread-covid-19-may-be-rare

Asymptomatic spread of COVID-19 may be rare, new research finds

Symptomatic cases were far more likely to transmit the virus than asymptomatic ones, the authors found.

A study published this month in the American Medical Association's JAMA Network Open journal has offered further evidence that asymptomatic spread of COVID-19 may be significantly lower than previously thought.

Fears of COVID-19 spreading asymptomatically have persisted since shortly after the beginning of the pandemic. Many public health authorities in the United States and elsewhere initially argued that only those individuals with symptoms of COVID-19 should take precautions such as wearing masks and staying at home.

But fears that the virus may be spread to a significant degree by asymptomatic carriers soon led government leaders to issue broad and lengthy stay-at-home orders and mask mandates out of concerns that anyone could be a silent spreader.

"[A]symptomatic individuals may be carriers of the COVID-19 virus and may unknowingly spread the virus to other individuals in close proximity," read a characteristic mask mandate by Delaware Gov. John Carney in late April, one of many issued in the spring in response to fears of asymptomatic spread.

Yet evidence in support of common asymptomatic spread has remained elusive, and multiple studies and surveys conducted since the spring have suggested its prevalence may have been overstated.

Lack of asymptomatic transmission 'is notable'

In the new study [https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2774102] published in the JAMA Network Open journal, a team of researchers from the University of Florida and the University of Washington conducted a "meta-analysis of 54 studies with 77,758 participants" to determine "the estimated overall household secondary attack rate" of COVID-19. (The "secondary attack rate" of a virus, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, quantifies "transmission of illness in a household, barracks, or other closed population" compared to transmission in the wider community.)

The authors determined that symptomatic cases were far more likely to transmit the virus than asymptomatic ones. The "secondary attack rate" of symptomatic cases was 18%, they found, compared to 0.7% for asymptomatic ones, a 25-fold difference.

Speak not an opinion varying from the Cult line, or face the consequences... no earning a living for you!

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/23/california-doctor-says-he-was-fired-for-challenging-coronavirus-shutdowns/

California Doctor Says He was Fired for Challenging Coronavirus Shutdowns

Appearing Wednesday on the Fox News Channel, Dr. Michael Deboisblanc said he was fired as trauma medical director for John Muir Health after writing a letter to health officials in Contra Costa County, California, in which he challenged local coronavirus restrictions.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6218056500001#sp=show-clips

A partial transcript is as follows:

SANDRA SMITH: A prominent doctor in California says he was fired after questioning stay at home orders in Contra Costa County. He said the lockdowns did more harm than good and caused needless suffering. Pointing out in a letter to county officials: “The science is clear that more lockdowns will lead to much more non-COVID morbidity and mortality.” Dr. Deboisblanc was removed from his post as trauma medical director for John Muir Health.

DR. MICHAEL DEBOISBLANC: It’s been a crazy week or so. A group of parents that we were working with the county tried to go back and forth with the county to try to get our kids back in school. The county was really not responding to any of their requests and they approached us and said, “Hey, would you mind writing a letter to the county to maybe express some of these issues?” All the data that I am aware of, looking at children and the virus, shows that it’s safe. There are many other states now that have months of track records showing that it’s safe for their kids to go back to school. And the state of California and the county is just not making that possible.

48 minute interview by Tom Woods of Ivor Cummins. On the nerdy science side of things... lockdowns, briefly masks, vaccines, etc. ... finally gets to the point of noting that since none of what is being dictated by the "public health experts" and "politicians" has any scientific basis at all, therefore, there must be some other reason for all the bullshit. "It's not about a virus at all." Who stands to gain by people and/or their businesses going bankrupt while the governor of Hawaii announces he'll be raising taxes and fees by a BILLION dollars? Asking for a friend.

https://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/0/0/b/00b0c89b593c9f07/woods_2020_12_17.mp3?c_id=91455494&cs_id=91455494&expiration=1608883455&hwt=54cb7bba69ea25c5d9656cce0ff3bdf5

Ivor Cummins, biomedical engineer, has devoted years to the study of the root causes of modern chronic disease, has been one of the best commentators and number crunchers on COVID-19.

Read the original article at TomWoods.com. http://tomwoods.com/podcasts/

Guest’s Post
“Published Papers and Data on Lockdown Weak Efficacy – and Lockdown Huge Harms“
https://thefatemperor.com/published-papers-and-data-on-lockdown-weak-efficacy-and-lockdown-huge-harms/

Related Post
“Death by Lockdown“
https://tomwoods.com/death-by-lockdown/

Guest’s Youtube Channel
Ivor Cummins
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPn4FsiQP15nudug9FDhluA

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@FatEmperor

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The Fat Emperor
https://thefatemperor.com/

Christmas cancelled
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/12/24/christmas-convoy-spreading-much-needed-holiday-cheer-kaneohe-cut-short-by-complaints/


HNN asked HPD how many people had called. A spokesperson didn’t give us an exact number, only saying their had been numerous complaints about noise and traffic.

Stephanie Kalaukoa had to break the news to people at the end of the route that the convoy was canceled.

“They were really disappointed and sad. Very, very disappointed,” she said.

Silva says he felt the same way especially since so many other convoys — most with political messages — have been allowed to proceed.

“Maybe they don’t want to do it for the community. Or they just want to do it for the politicians,” he said.

Watching the videos on Christmas Eve, he said it’s obvious joy far outweighed any negative.

Silva said, laughing, “I think 99.9 (percent of people enjoyed it.) Except for that one Grinch.”

Merry Christmas everyone! 

I bet the Safety Cultists have a really really really good "explanation" to account for all this... wait, let me guess: "safety"?

https://fee.org/articles/we-had-the-vaccine-from-the-start-you-just-werent-allowed-to-take-it/

We Had the Vaccine from the Start—You Just Weren't Allowed to Take It

For the duration of the pandemic, while hundreds of thousands died and the world economy was decimated by lockdowns, Moderna's highly effective vaccine was available.

Few people realize that the Moderna vaccine against COVID-19—which the FDA has finally declared "highly effective," and which is now being distributed to Americans—has actually been available for nearly a year.

But the government wouldn't let you take it.

The vaccine, a triumph of medical science known as mRNA-1273, was designed in a single weekend, just two days after Chinese researchers published the virus's genetic code on January 11, 2020.

For the entire duration of the pandemic, while hundreds of thousands died and the world economy was decimated by lockdowns, this highly effective vaccine has been available.

But you, and all the people who died, were prohibited by the government from taking it.

There are some who claim that the FDA "saves lives" by putting the brakes on medical innovation with their requirements for years-long, and often decades-long, billion-dollar medical trial procedures.

Why are hundreds of thousands of "natural" deaths from a rampaging disease considered acceptable to the FDA—while the remote possibility of one or two deaths among well-informed vaccine-testing volunteers are not?

Missing here is the obvious counterpoint—How many lives did the FDA sacrifice to disease in the meantime?

In the case of COVID-19 we know the answer: more than 300,000 deaths so far in the United States and counting.

So why was this vaccine delayed for a full year? Because the FDA prohibited rapid "challenge trials"—where volunteers take the vaccine and then expose themselves to the virus in a lab, rather than waiting agonizing months to see how many catch the virus "in the wild."

Challenge trials would have proven the vaccine's effectiveness in a matter of weeks. But the FDA considered the risk to trial volunteers too high.

But why? Why are hundreds of thousands of "natural" deaths from a rampaging disease considered acceptable to the FDA—while the remote possibility of one or two deaths, in the absolute worst case scenario, among well-informed vaccine-testing volunteers are not?

There is no rational answer. The tragic truth is that we are ruled by a cowardly medical bureaucracy, one that would rather allow hundreds of thousands of people to die than face any potential criticism for allowing an accelerated vaccine trial.

Seen greens commerical about wearing the mask correctly. When he has been seen multiple times not wearing it correctly. And he is a real doctor, so he should know better.

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Fauci again caught in lies, misinformation, ignorance, whatever. And today is St. Fauci Day in Washington D.C. That's how fucked up shit is there. Home to the Queen of the Safety Cult, Mayor Muriel Bowser... though I suspect it's nearly a tie at the top of the royalty chain with the Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot and Michigan governor Gretchen Witless Whitmer.

90% of the population vaccinated to achieve herd immunity? and 40% saying they won't get vaccinated. There's gonna be a mask mandate and cancelled Christmas and Thanksgiving and Fourth of July, etc., well, forever. Fuckin' Safety Cult Fascists.

https://notthebee.com/article/so-fauci-just-admitted-that-hes-been-lying-to-americans-about-herd-immunity

Here's the whole article:

So Fauci just admitted that he's been lying to Americans about herd immunity

Fauci told the New York Times today that he's been lying about how many people would need to be vaccinated in order for herd immunity take hold in America.

Or, as NYT puts it, he's been "quietly shifting that number" and "deliberately moving the goal posts."

BEHOLD:

How Much Herd Immunity Is Enough?

Scientists initially estimated that 60 to 70 percent of the population needed to acquire resistance to the coronavirus to banish it. Now Dr. Anthony Fauci and others are quietly shifting that number upward.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/24/health/herd-immunity-covid-coronavirus.html#click=https://t.co/j18nUYZ3cV

Recently, a figure to whom millions of Americans look for guidance — Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, an adviser to both the Trump administration and the incoming Biden administration — has begun incrementally raising his herd-immunity estimate.

In the pandemic's early days, Dr. Fauci tended to cite the same 60 to 70 percent estimate that most experts did. About a month ago, he began saying "70, 75 percent" in television interviews. And last week, in an interview with CNBC News, he said "75, 80, 85 percent" and "75 to 80-plus percent."

In a telephone interview the next day, Dr. Fauci acknowledged that he had slowly but deliberately been moving the goal posts. He is doing so, he said, partly based on new science, and partly on his gut feeling that the country is finally ready to hear what he really thinks.

Hard as it may be to hear, he said, he believes that it may take close to 90 percent immunity to bring the virus to a halt — almost as much as is needed to stop a measles outbreak.
...
"When polls said only about half of all Americans would take a vaccine, I was saying herd immunity would take 70 to 75 percent," Dr. Fauci said. "Then, when newer surveys said 60 percent or more would take it, I thought, ‘I can nudge this up a bit,' so I went to 80, 85."

I hope I do not need to explain how big of a deal it is that during a pandemic, the nation's top infectious disease expert has been deliberately misleading (read: LYING TO) the public because he thought they might not be ready to hear the truth.

Waiting until polls show certain numbers before telling Americans what he believes is true? The heck is that?

NYT couldn't even spin it to make him sound good.

Of ALL people involved with this trainwreck called Corona, HE is supposed to be the one operating solely on statistics and facts, and not "gut feelings." It's why we're supposed to trust everything he says, remember!

So based on new data he increased his estimate from 60% to 90% and that makes him a liar?

So based on new data he increased his estimate from 60% to 90% and that makes him a liar?

Herd immunity levels are not based on an individual's opinion.

Herd immunity is based on transmission rates.  The higher the rate, the larger a percentage of the population will require immunity, from both natural and manmade immunizations, to achieve herd immunity so the virus has insufficient hosts to maintain its existence.

It's called science.

So the answer to your questions is "Yes!"  Fauci is a liar.  He's also a fool who thought nobody would ever fact check him.  He even admitted it, so I wonder why you'd ever question that FACT.