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changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1240 on: December 27, 2020, 09:16:13 PM »
I do give him some leway because this virus is new. But that being said, he should not make a statement like how he does. He has been wrong often which someone in his position cannot afford that.

But then again, the DNC and media has his back so he can say anything and there wont be any negative press on him.

Then add in his track record, and why does this guy still have a job?

Fauci is just another politician.

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macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1241 on: December 27, 2020, 09:23:11 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on December 27, 2020, 09:15:32 PM
Someone can make a mistakes and improve over time.... one fuckup doesn't mean he will always fuckup. Not saying he is the best person for this job.  But I don't think he is doing all that bad considering the circumstances.

he lied about treatments for HIV, he stole patents, he lied about a vaccine for AIDS
i don't call those mistakes, you may, considering your propensity to downplay your own weaknesses
those are criminal actions (for which he wasn't convicted in a court of law, lol)
i've always known he was the wrong man for the job
he's part of the swamp of science...
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punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1242 on: December 27, 2020, 09:26:04 PM »
Quote from: macsak on December 27, 2020, 08:53:18 PM
a bit?
from 60-70% to 90-95% is a 50% increase!

look at his history with HIV/AIDS and tell me he is the right man for the job...
And look at his various hypocrisies, not the least of which is being at a baseball game with people seated directly on each side of him while he wears no mask and is not eating or drinking.

Another way to grasp the numbers of his dramatic (lying) changes in the necessary percentage of the population needing vaccination for herd immunity is that (his original statement) 60% of the population is 198 million people. This was the number he postulated believing that a vaccine most likely would be 60-70% effective. Now we have vaccines that claim to be 95% and 94% effective and he says (at 90%) that 297 million people will need to be vaccinated. That's an extra 99 million people getting vaccinated, two doses each. And we all know that THE VIRUS!!! will still be around infecting people no matter how many people get vaccinated (in the real world).

Among the many lies/incompetencies Fauci has perpetrated besides all his HIV stupidity is that long after there were numerous peer-reviewed studies re the lack of transmission danger and direct disease in children/schools he has continued to claim that schools must remain closed to in-person learning because of the dangers to and from children. Is he that stupid, and/or is he that uninformed, and/or does he have another agenda? Be sure to research what patents he owns.
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hvybarrels

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1243 on: December 27, 2020, 09:38:36 PM »
If Trump was 50% wrong about anything Covid-related they would start calling him a murderer again, blood on his hands, etc. The media lets Fauxcci get away with anything he wants. Zero accountability.
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punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1244 on: December 27, 2020, 09:53:25 PM »




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punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1245 on: December 27, 2020, 10:01:39 PM »
Latest manufactured Safety Cult rationale for compliance to irrationality.

https://jordanschachtel.substack.com/p/the-new-strain-of-covid-propaganda

The 'new strain' of COVID propaganda

The unaccountable elite justify their failures to “stop the spread,” while continuing an unabated power grab.

Politicians and “public health experts” around the world are using faulty models on a new variant of the novel coronavirus in order to cover for their failures in stopping its spread, while simultaneously leveraging the issue to demand renewed lockdowns and other punishing restrictions. Not much is known about the so-called “new strain” of the virus, but that hasn’t stopped the ruling class from using it to their advantage.

The latest narrative, which is being used as a vector for endless amounts of COVID-19 panic and fear mongering, is related to the claim that there is a new mutation of the novel coronavirus spreading, which is claimed to be much more contagious — a claimed 70%(!) increase in transmissibility — than the original dominant variant.

Here’s the problem with that claim: it’s based solely on a single model put together by a team of epidemiologists with a track record of failure. There is no actual evidence that the new variant of the coronavirus is any more or less transmissible or deadly than previous strains.
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omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1246 on: December 27, 2020, 10:22:31 PM »
Quote from: macsak on December 27, 2020, 09:23:11 PM
he lied about treatments for HIV, he stole patents, he lied about a vaccine for AIDS
i don't call those mistakes, you may, considering your propensity to downplay your own weaknesses
those are criminal actions (for which he wasn't convicted in a court of law, lol)
i've always known he was the wrong man for the job
he's part of the swamp of science...

I wasn't alive back then so I can't speak of that.  Looking back is always easier than judging the present. If those allegations are true then yes perhaps they should bring up a criminal case.  All I am trying to do judge the man is his actions today.  Just like I am trying to judge Pence by his actions today and not his fuckups about AIDS in the past.  And they have not been that ridiculous or egregious.  We had no other options, unless he stepped down.  Given the facts that he knew at the time it doesn't appear he lied on purpose, other than the interference by Trump.
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ren

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1247 on: December 27, 2020, 11:03:21 PM »
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1248 on: December 28, 2020, 01:14:59 AM »
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1249 on: December 28, 2020, 05:39:11 AM »
https://youtu.be/YP4T2qgoh7o?t=84

Quote from: punaperson on December 27, 2020, 10:01:39 PM
Latest manufactured Safety Cult rationale for compliance to irrationality.

https://jordanschachtel.substack.com/p/the-new-strain-of-covid-propaganda

The 'new strain' of COVID propaganda

The unaccountable elite justify their failures to “stop the spread,” while continuing an unabated power grab.

Politicians and “public health experts” around the world are using faulty models on a new variant of the novel coronavirus in order to cover for their failures in stopping its spread, while simultaneously leveraging the issue to demand renewed lockdowns and other punishing restrictions. Not much is known about the so-called “new strain” of the virus, but that hasn’t stopped the ruling class from using it to their advantage.

The latest narrative, which is being used as a vector for endless amounts of COVID-19 panic and fear mongering, is related to the claim that there is a new mutation of the novel coronavirus spreading, which is claimed to be much more contagious — a claimed 70%(!) increase in transmissibility — than the original dominant variant.

Here’s the problem with that claim: it’s based solely on a single model put together by a team of epidemiologists with a track record of failure. There is no actual evidence that the new variant of the coronavirus is any more or less transmissible or deadly than previous strains.
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punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1250 on: December 28, 2020, 06:58:23 AM »
The Safety Cultists fear-monger partially based upon the grossly inflated number of deaths "with Covid".

Alex Berneson Details How Coronavirus Deaths Are Counted



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punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1251 on: December 28, 2020, 07:13:59 AM »
I've posted previously on the faulty RT-PCR tests that use more than 34 amplifications and thus often return (false) "positive" results (even according to Fauci, who fails to make a point of stating the the number of amplifications should be part of the test result reporting). I've seen inventor of the PCR test, for which he won a Nobel Prize, Kerrie Mullis on video discussing the limitations of the test, including that it cannot be used as a diagnostic tool. Here is a reputed quote from him (which I cannot immediately verify), that makes a similar point about the amplification cycles.

"With PCR, if you do it well, you can find almost anything in anybody."

False test results -> false case numbers.

False cause of death attributions -> false IFR.

False reasons to fear -> sheeple on their knees complying with any and all irrational orders.
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punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1252 on: December 28, 2020, 07:21:31 AM »
Another study confirming there is no such thing as asymptomatic or presymptomatic transmission of THE VIRUS!!! But... I predict, without any scientific analysis or study, that these facts won't make a scintilla of difference to the Safety Cultists who will continue to demand everyone wear a mask, anti-social distance, limit gatherings by number and who is allowed, shut down or restrict businesses, etc. etc. etc. Why would they suddenly go sane?

https://web.archive.org/web/20201228015353/https://alachuachronicle.com/university-of-florida-researchers-find-no-asymptomatic-spread/

University of Florida researchers find no asymptomatic or presymptomatic spread

December 22, 2020

UF Dept of Biostatistics, 2004 Mowry Rd, Gainesville, FL

Four researchers from the University of Florida Department of Biostatistics co-authored a study published online by the Journal of the American Medical Association. They performed a meta-analysis of 54 studies looking at the household secondary attack rate of SARS-CoV-2. According to the CDC, the secondary attack rate is the number of new cases among contacts divided by the total number of contacts.

The researchers confirmed that SARS-CoV-2 is more contagious than other coronaviruses, with a secondary attack rate of 16.6% (95% CI 14.0%-19.3%) compared to 7.5% (95%CI 4.8%-10.7%) for SARS-CoV and 4.7% (95%CI, 0.9%-10.7%) for MERS-CoV.

Their findings also confirmed the attack rate is higher to adult contacts compared to child contacts and to spouses compared to other family members.

The secondary attack rate for symptomatic index cases was 18.0% (95% CI 14.2%-22.1%), and the rate of asymptomatic and presymptomatic index cases was 0.7% (95% CI 0%-4.9%), “although there were few studies in the latter group.” The asymptomatic/presymptomatic secondary attack rate is not statistically different from zero, and the confidence interval is technically 0.7 ± 4.2, resulting in a range of -3.5%-4.9%, but attack rates cannot be negative, so it is truncated at 0.

Here's the paper:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2774102

Household Transmission of SARS-CoV-2
A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis
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Inspector

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1253 on: December 28, 2020, 08:10:15 AM »
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punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1254 on: December 28, 2020, 08:54:05 AM »
Quote from: Inspector on December 28, 2020, 08:10:15 AM
Tel Aviv research: 99.9% of COVID-19 virus dead in 30 seconds with UV LEDs

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/tel-aviv-research-999-percent-of-covid-19-germs-dead-in-30-seconds-with-uv-leds-653315
Well, yeah, but... that means 0.1% still survives. Far too high a risk to take. Besides, masks don't work 100%, so far too high a risk to take. Since the survival rate for under 65 is only 99.98%, far too high a risk to take.

Bottom line: Even if sunlight/UV killed 99.999% dead in 3 seconds, still far too high a risk to take.

Bottom bottom line: Absolutely nothing will make any difference for the Safety Cultists, far too high a risk to take. Now carry on sheeple with  your compliance to the completely irrational.
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Inspector

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1255 on: December 28, 2020, 08:59:55 AM »
Quote from: punaperson on December 28, 2020, 08:54:05 AM
Well, yeah, but... that means 0.1% still survives. Far too high a risk to take. Besides, masks don't work 100%, so far too high a risk to take. Since the survival rate for under 65 is only 99.98%, far too high a risk to take.

Bottom line: Even if sunlight/UV killed 99.999% dead in 3 seconds, still far too high a risk to take.

Bottom bottom line: Absolutely nothing will make any difference for the Safety Cultists, far too high a risk to take. Now carry on sheeple with  your compliance to the completely irrational.
Yeah, I guess you are right. The Mask Karens and the Safety Cultists of the world won’t accept the truth. They only accept pseudo science and lockstep marching orders from their leaders.
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bass monkey

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1256 on: December 28, 2020, 09:14:25 AM »
Quote from: Inspector on December 28, 2020, 08:10:15 AM
Tel Aviv research: 99.9% of COVID-19 virus dead in 30 seconds with UV LEDs

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/tel-aviv-research-999-percent-of-covid-19-germs-dead-in-30-seconds-with-uv-leds-653315

I never read through your link,  but it would be cool if UV lights were incorporated more. Like how they have those bug machines with the different colored light bulbs to keep flies away.

Maybe a few spread out through malls, or businesses could incorporate their own. 
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changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1257 on: December 28, 2020, 09:24:44 AM »
Quote from: Inspector on December 28, 2020, 08:10:15 AM
Tel Aviv research: 99.9% of COVID-19 virus dead in 30 seconds with UV LEDs

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/tel-aviv-research-999-percent-of-covid-19-germs-dead-in-30-seconds-with-uv-leds-653315

UV-B has been around for months now that does kill the virus.  Many hospitals overseas and major businesses use them.  Businesses like the German bus system, hospitals have a machine/robot that stays in a vacant room, etc...

The problem is a real UV-B system is harmful to people when exposed for X amount of minutes.  So there are many products that claim they're UV-B lights that kill Covid.  Which are not true because if it was real UV-B, the handheld wand would also burn the user.  And the UV-B has to be on the virus for X amount of time as well. So I have friends who buy the wand and just scan type of exposure motion (seconds), which even if it was a real UV-B device, would not kill Covid.
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changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1258 on: December 28, 2020, 09:25:24 AM »
Quote from: bass monkey on December 28, 2020, 09:14:25 AM
I never read through your link,  but it would be cool if UV lights were incorporated more. Like how they have those bug machines with the different colored light bulbs to keep flies away.

Maybe a few spread out through malls, or businesses could incorporate their own.

The UK has been using them.  They UV-B the entire bus under a canopy type enclosure. 
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Inspector

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1259 on: December 28, 2020, 09:26:32 AM »
Quote from: bass monkey on December 28, 2020, 09:14:25 AM
I never read through your link,  but it would be cool if UV lights were incorporated more. Like how they have those bug machines with the different colored light bulbs to keep flies away.

Maybe a few spread out through malls, or businesses could incorporate their own.
Israel is on the forefront of a lot of medical and high tech military stuff. The only way I can keep up with what they are doing is to read Israel specific periodicals. You don’t have to read through the link. The title says most of it. If it is true and it works then there is no reason for anyone to die from this virus any more. Except in the US where the drug companies and politicians rule the people like the Mask Karens and the Safety Cultists.
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