Why are you stating your reasoning again?  We already discussed this and I told you a ballpark figure is acceptable.This is as of today, not 4 months from now or some future date that you seem to be hung up on. You seem to think that the future  death rate is what I'm asking for.   

Why are you adding in war deaths now?  Does this help your statement of our nation not being able to continue on?  I'm not stating that the 600K dead is a small number, but that it won't affect the nations ability to continue.

Typical deflection tactic when someone refuses to admit their statement of the nation not continuing is incorrect and holds zero weight.

those pesky goalposts...

The reason why I didn't write that is because we don't know how the variants will effect the death rates,  what other mutations could occur if allowed to spread like that ( see india).  ETC ETC its not so cut and paste dry. 

FYI that 6million death rate would be greater than all recent wars combined, which arguably were national security threats...

War (and years of U.S. military involvement)   Number of fatalities
World War II (1939-1945)   405,399
World War I (1917-1918)   116,516
Vietnam War (1965-1973)   58,209
Korean War (1950-1953)   36,516

someone denied what i said about the variants being less damaging...
https://messaging-custom-newsletters.nytimes.com/template/oakv2?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20210715&instance_id=35387&nl=the-morning&productCode=NN&regi_id=138709826&segment_id=63517&te=1&uri=nyt%3A%2F%2Fnewsletter%2Fe274d356-51cb-541c-b965-0dab597ec766&user_id=1644b8238cab6ad21c72e70a6fb35a31

someone denied what i said about the variants being less damaging...
https://messaging-custom-newsletters.nytimes.com/template/oakv2?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20210715&instance_id=35387&nl=the-morning&productCode=NN&regi_id=138709826&segment_id=63517&te=1&uri=nyt%3A%2F%2Fnewsletter%2Fe274d356-51cb-541c-b965-0dab597ec766&user_id=1644b8238cab6ad21c72e70a6fb35a31

But, but, but, but  that link is just for Delta.  What about all future strains like Omega, Victor, Purple Baby Bottle, Moose Cow Horn, etc...

First 12 seconds of vid.

But, but, but, but  that link is just for Delta.  What about all future strains like Omega, Victor, Purple Baby Bottle, Moose Cow Horn, etc...

brah we don't know how the variants will effect (sic) the death rates
comon man

you still didn't address the post i linked, rather you tell me to "get over it" about a post from a couple days ago...
goalpost----->all over the place

Didn't address what?

Your illiteracy.

Didn't address what?

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=38772.msg383831#msg383831
you said they are not giving shots, i provided a link that showed they were...

but but but they are only going to distribute INFORMATION!
if you think they are going to go door to door vaccinating people, you are a CONSPIRACY THEORIST REPUBLICAN!

If its a qualified person to give the shots I see no issues.  Biden's original plan was just for the volunteers to give info.  This has added to the scope.  But its also not random volunteers giving out shots to my knowledge,  it still requires medical personnel.  They are still not forcing vaccines. 

If its a qualified person to give the shots I see no issues.  Biden's original plan was just for the volunteers to give info.  This has added to the scope.  But its also not random volunteers giving out shots to my knowledge,  it still requires medical personnel.  They are still not forcing vaccines.

Why does it matter WHO gives the shots door-to-door?

Nobody here argued that the shots were being given by "untrained volunteers."

Find a goal post, and stick to it!

Still cant admit his error, instead, moved goal post. Typical.

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Some idiots see all  the slippery slopes and think It's a Slip n Slide ....WwweeeEEEEEEeeeee.

Some idiots see all  the slippery slopes and think It's a Slip n Slide ....WwweeeEEEEEEeeeee.

Appropriate, since it's obvious his cheese has slipped off his cracker!

Anyone wanna tell him the reason they do inoculations at medical facilities is in case someone has a bad reaction they have access to life saving equipment?

I bet these volunteers would run from your house and not even call an ambulance to avoid the bad press of how inevitably stupid this idea is.

If its a qualified person to give the shots I see no issues.  Biden's original plan was just for the volunteers to give info.  This has added to the scope.  But its also not random volunteers giving out shots to my knowledge,  it still requires medical personnel.  They are still not forcing vaccines.

still not addressing the issue
only moving goalposts to "biden's original plan"
so still not wrong...

Anyone wanna tell him the reason they do inoculations at medical facilities is in case someone has a bad reaction they have access to life saving equipment?

I bet these volunteers would run from your house and not even call an ambulance to avoid the bad press of how inevitably stupid this idea is.

Continuation of our nation outweighs safety.

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Anyone wanna tell him the reason they do inoculations at medical facilities is in case someone has a bad reaction they have access to life saving equipment?

I bet these volunteers would run from your house and not even call an ambulance to avoid the bad press of how inevitably stupid this idea is.

Not only that, but random gov't people ringing the doorbell are the last ones I would trust with my personal healthcare info.  HIPAA is still a thing -- for good reason.  Health info can be easily used against you if not kept confidential.  As inept as the gov't has proven itself to be time after time, they've more than earned my distrust.

Transporting the vaccine itself to neighborhoods adds another level of complexity to the whole process.  Storage, inventory, dispensing, and protection of the vaccines is going to require more effort and possibly more outfitting of ambulances/transportation vehicles.  A controlled storage and dispensary in a pharmacy is a different environment than rolling around streets, parking lots and cul-de-sacs.

Waiting to hear how their poor planning resulted in hundreds being injected with contaminated or inert vaccines.

still not addressing the issue
only moving goalposts to "biden's original plan"
so still not wrong...

I'm not psychic.  How can I tell the future?  I agreed with his original plan,  I am ok with the current situation.  I won't be ok with forced vaccination.  If that happens next then I will not be a supporter.

Anyone wanna tell him the reason they do inoculations at medical facilities is in case someone has a bad reaction they have access to life saving equipment?

I bet these volunteers would run from your house and not even call an ambulance to avoid the bad press of how inevitably stupid this idea is.

I got a shot at a school.  Unless the nurses office qualifies as a medical facility.