The facts remain independent of the author.   
Lizard people and law breaker/rioter.  Great company.  👍

There were literally no significant facts included.  Every fact was twisted and spun to create a nonsensical picture that anyone with a brain could see through.

Must not be your day to use the collective brain.

Nope but when you see a bunch of crazies gathered together there's a common theme.   

Is that your idea of an actual argument?

LOL!!

Nope but when you see a bunch of crazies gathered together there's a common theme.   

well, you've met my friends...

Is that your idea of an actual argument?

LOL!!

careful, he's going to bring in religion and abortion and freedom!

careful, he's going to bring in religion and abortion and freedom!

And an article with a nice title, but is wrong because the entire thing wasnt read.

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well, you've met my friends...

Not, "a friend"?

Not, "a friend"?

"ass"ociates

1963   The Federal Immunization Grant Program was established. The grants, authorized under section 317 of the Public Health Service Act, were made to states to provide funds to purchase vaccines and to support basic functions of an immunization program. The only vaccines available at the time were DTP, polio, and smallpox.
Mar 21, 1963   The first live virus measles vaccine (Rubeovax by Merck) was licensed. Other live virus measles vaccines were eventually licensed (M-Vac by Lederle, Pfizer-vax Measles-L by Pfizer, and generic vaccines by Lilly, Parke Davis, and Philips Roxane).
1963   Inactivated measles vaccine (Pfizer-vax Measles-K by Pfizer and a generic vaccine by Lilly) were licensed in the U.S. These vaccines were eventually withdrawn from the U.S. market in 1967.
1962   President John F. Kennedy signed the the Vaccination Assistance Act into law. It allowed the CDC to support mass immunization campaigns and to initiate maintenance programs.
Mar 27, 1962   Oral polio vaccine type 3 was licensed in the U.S., as well as the trivalent product.
1961   Oral polio vaccine types 1 and 2, developed by Dr. Albert Sabin and grown in monkey kidney cell culture, were licensed for use in the U.S.
1957 - 1958   The "Asian" influenza pandemic, caused by an H2N2 influenza virus, resulted in an estimated 70,000 deaths in the U.S. alone.
1955   The Polio Vaccination Assistance Act was enacted by Congress, the first federal involvement in immunization activities. It allowed Congress to appropriate funds to the Communicable Disease Center (later the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) to help states and local communities acquire and administer vaccine.

https://www.immunize.org/timeline/

Etc., etc. if you go forward.
Been going on long time.
Not sure any were “mandated “ though. Not at this stage.
Ignorantly I don’t think so. (Haven’t done enough research)

Flapp,
I’m trying to find development times from start of testing to approval of the old school vaccines.
This is not a trolling effort.

1963   The Federal Immunization Grant Program was established. The grants, authorized under section 317 of the Public Health Service Act, were made to states to provide funds to purchase vaccines and to support basic functions of an immunization program. The only vaccines available at the time were DTP, polio, and smallpox.
Mar 21, 1963   The first live virus measles vaccine (Rubeovax by Merck) was licensed. Other live virus measles vaccines were eventually licensed (M-Vac by Lederle, Pfizer-vax Measles-L by Pfizer, and generic vaccines by Lilly, Parke Davis, and Philips Roxane).
1963   Inactivated measles vaccine (Pfizer-vax Measles-K by Pfizer and a generic vaccine by Lilly) were licensed in the U.S. These vaccines were eventually withdrawn from the U.S. market in 1967.
1962   President John F. Kennedy signed the the Vaccination Assistance Act into law. It allowed the CDC to support mass immunization campaigns and to initiate maintenance programs.
Mar 27, 1962   Oral polio vaccine type 3 was licensed in the U.S., as well as the trivalent product.
1961   Oral polio vaccine types 1 and 2, developed by Dr. Albert Sabin and grown in monkey kidney cell culture, were licensed for use in the U.S.
1957 - 1958   The "Asian" influenza pandemic, caused by an H2N2 influenza virus, resulted in an estimated 70,000 deaths in the U.S. alone.
1955   The Polio Vaccination Assistance Act was enacted by Congress, the first federal involvement in immunization activities. It allowed Congress to appropriate funds to the Communicable Disease Center (later the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) to help states and local communities acquire and administer vaccine.

https://www.immunize.org/timeline/

Etc., etc. if you go forward.
Been going on long time.
Not sure any were “mandated “ though. Not at this stage.
Ignorantly I don’t think so. (Haven’t done enough research)

Flapp,
I’m trying to find development times from start of testing to approval of the old school vaccines.
This is not a trolling effort.

If you want to thoroughly do the research, find out when each mandated vaccine was invented, how long it was tested on what percentage of the population, and when it was approved for public use relative to the mandates.

There were batches of these vaccines you listed recalled from use because of adverse reactions or bad formulations.  Those facts also matter, because no matter how many times something has been tried in the past might not be sufficient justification to continue doing it now.  i.e. We should learn from history, not use it as a rationale for repeating the same mistakes.  "This is how we've always done it," doesn't hold much value as an argument.

Thanks Man.
That’s what I’m trying to see. The past.
Have they ever approved a vaccine this fast ?

Still vaxx or don’t vaxx. Whatever.
And Thalmidolide was a treatment, not a vaccine.

1 could also argue we have a process for a reason. And this process was changed for covid.



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1 could also argue we have a process for a reason. And this process was changed for covid.



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They say it was changed because of the dire health circumstances and urgency.  But I for myself will always be the eternal skeptic.  Maybe it was for other reasons......(money greed?  An experiment for controlling the masses?)

1 could also argue we have a process for a reason. And this process was changed for covid.



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Because, you know, emergency situation demands extreme action. . .

Ok, I can get that for the initial COVID situation. However, when you have hospital and response folks now saying "see, we told you about Delta (or other) was coming".  Well, if you "knew it was coming" then you should have better response plans in place.  Yeah, I get the impractical or near impossible situation for stocking up on many supplies and stuff, but there should be contingency plans.  We're seeing much of that going up around town, but I think coverage of that isn't great. 

Because, you know, emergency situation demands extreme action. . .

Ok, I can get that for the initial COVID situation. However, when you have hospital and response folks now saying "see, we told you about Delta (or other) was coming".  Well, if you "knew it was coming" then you should have better response plans in place.  Yeah, I get the impractical or near impossible situation for stocking up on many supplies and stuff, but there should be contingency plans.  We're seeing much of that going up around town, but I think coverage of that isn't great.

Part of the problem I see is the government itself declaring an emergency based on bogus INTEL, data, and models, then using that as justification for throwing caution to the wind.

We were told 2.2 Million Americans would die from COVID. That's 0.0066% of our population.  If you wonder why they used the raw number and not the percentage, it's because 2.2M is way scarier than 0.0066%.  The reality, after social distancing, lockdowns, and hand washing, was closer to 952K from 2020 and 2021 combined (if you trust the government's numbers).

https://www.aier.org/article/how-wrong-were-the-models-and-why/

We were also told there were stockpiles of WMDs in Iraq, but there's been no significant amount discovered.  Yet, that INTEL was enough to get Congress to vote on invading that country and executing their leader.

If we continue to let the SAME PEOPLE making decisions also manage the ones providing the justification for those decisions, do we really expect anything to get better?  Would it be so difficult to have independent confirmation from maybe the UN, a foreign ally, etc. -- someone who probably should already have the same intelligence we have?

These are the same people telling the country - nay, the world - that there's no crisis on the US-Mexico border.

From Flapp

"We were told 2.2 Million Americans would die from COVID. That's 0.0066% of our population.  If you wonder why they used the raw number and not the percentage, it's because 2.2M is way scarier than 0.0066%.  The reality, after social distancing, lockdowns, and hand washing, was closer to 952K from 2020 and 2021 combined (if you trust the government's numbers)."

Not that anyone cares to be accurate on these forums, but 2.2 million is 0.66% of the American population of 330 million, or 100 times more than you stated.  I understand many are mathematically challenged, so no worries.

From Flapp

"We were told 2.2 Million Americans would die from COVID. That's 0.0066% of our population.  If you wonder why they used the raw number and not the percentage, it's because 2.2M is way scarier than 0.0066%.  The reality, after social distancing, lockdowns, and hand washing, was closer to 952K from 2020 and 2021 combined (if you trust the government's numbers)."

Not that anyone cares to be accurate on these forums, but 2.2 million is 0.66% of the American population of 330 million, or 100 times more than you stated.  I understand many are mathematically challenged, so no worries.

Crap.  I had it right, but when I checked it on the calculator, I did decimals, not percentages.  So I changed it.

Thanks for the fact check.   

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Seven-fifths of Americans don't understand fractions ...


... and the other half don't understand decimals.

Part of the problem I see is the government itself declaring an emergency based on bogus INTEL, data, and models, then using that as justification for throwing caution to the wind.

SNIP

Yeah, I get the part of bogus, questionable, or whatever data.  I have questions on the data, filtering, etc. 

However, my thoughts were more on the aspect of the healthcare industry doing what is best for them as a business (which I can understand) and not for the patients or people they are supposed to be serving.  That if they are that inept in a response that they are saying "we saw it coming", that it doesn't bode well for what they don't see coming and are "supposed" to have contingencies for. 

Just like how easy it was to shut down the state, multiple times in fact, by some numbnut hitting a pedestrian overpass. 

the cdc recommends against authorization of booster doses for healthcare workers
i guess several of the members on this forum need to just trust the government...

Youtube has buried the original PV video but here's a sample. Full video link below



https://rumble.com/vmuiqp-part-2-fda-official-blow-dart-african-americans-and-wants-nazi-germany-regi.html

Youtube has buried the original PV video but here's a sample. Full video link below



https://rumble.com/vmuiqp-part-2-fda-official-blow-dart-african-americans-and-wants-nazi-germany-regi.html

Fake news. Brb putting on my helmet to walk to the market.

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