Trump unveils drug price rules (Read 11384 times)

omnigun

Trump unveils drug price rules
« on: November 20, 2020, 03:03:15 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/20/politics/trump-unveils-controversial-drug-price-rules/index.html

Not the best source but the content is good,  One of the few things I think trump did well, is trying to fight for drug pricing.  I applaud this action and hopefully lasts after he leaves office.  :shaka:

There is no good reasons USA should pay more than others for the same shit. 

macsak

Re: Trump unveils drug price rules
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2020, 04:53:08 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/20/politics/trump-unveils-controversial-drug-price-rules/index.html

Not the best source but the content is good,  One of the few things I think trump did well, is trying to fight for drug pricing.  I applaud this action and hopefully lasts after he leaves office.  :shaka:

There is no good reasons USA should pay more than others for the same shit.

biden gonna reverse all of trump's actions
IF he wins...

Jl808

Re: Trump unveils drug price rules
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2020, 05:30:58 PM »


Press Conference on Youtube.  Go Pres Trump!   :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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aletheuo137

Re: Trump unveils drug price rules
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2020, 06:58:30 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/20/politics/trump-unveils-controversial-drug-price-rules/index.html

Not the best source but the content is good,  One of the few things I think trump did well, is trying to fight for drug pricing.  I applaud this action and hopefully lasts after he leaves office.  :shaka:

There is no good reasons USA should pay more than others for the same shit.
Still don't want to wait for the process to run its course

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Inspector

Re: Trump unveils drug price rules
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2020, 03:17:08 PM »
Trump already kept his promise of lowering insulin prices for seniors. My wife and I will benefit greatly from this starting in 2021. We are going to save over $3,000 next year. I applaud his efforts. I understand this is one of the things he personally negotiated rather than having someone for his administration negotiate.
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rklapp

Re: Trump unveils drug price rules
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2020, 10:03:07 PM »
“The most-favored-nation rule allows the US to piggyback on discounts negotiated by other countries -- since Congress has banned Medicare from negotiating with drug makers. Other nations typically pay far less for medications, in large part because their governments often determine the cost -- which runs counter to Republicans' allegiance to the free market system.

Though Trump has slammed socialist health care systems that exist in other countries and attacked his Democratic rivals for seeking to implement such a setup here, he has celebrated linking US prices to peer nations' lower costs.”
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump unveils drug price rules
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2020, 10:58:50 PM »
“The most-favored-nation rule allows the US to piggyback on discounts negotiated by other countries -- since Congress has banned Medicare from negotiating with drug makers. Other nations typically pay far less for medications, in large part because their governments often determine the cost -- which runs counter to Republicans' allegiance to the free market system.

Though Trump has slammed socialist health care systems that exist in other countries and attacked his Democratic rivals for seeking to implement such a setup here, he has celebrated linking US prices to peer nations' lower costs.”

Never fails.  No matter what Trump does that's good, the news finds a way to spin it negatively.

#EnemyOfThePeople
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump unveils drug price rules
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2020, 08:46:05 PM »
Never fails.  No matter what Trump does that's good, the news finds a way to spin it negatively.

#EnemyOfThePeople

So do you applaud Trump's socialist step of having the government control drug prices?

I mean I think this was a good step, it is just a bit ironic that republicans are cheering on a step towards socialized medicine while also trying to scare us that democrats want socialized medicine.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump unveils drug price rules
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2020, 08:48:35 PM »
So do you applaud Trump's socialist step of having the government control drug prices?

I mean I think this was a good step, it is just a bit ironic that republicans are cheering on a step towards socialized medicine while also trying to scare us that democrats want socialized medicine.

Do you have a point?  Or just here to start an argument?

(This is a rhetorical question; I don't think you get what those are all about)
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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hvybarrels

Re: Trump unveils drug price rules
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2020, 09:14:07 PM »
So do you applaud Trump's socialist step of having the government control drug prices?

I mean I think this was a good step, it is just a bit ironic that republicans are cheering on a step towards socialized medicine while also trying to scare us that democrats want socialized medicine.

So it is a good thing but you are still going to whine about it?
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

aletheuo137

Re: Trump unveils drug price rules
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2020, 05:58:42 AM »
So it is a good thing but you are still going to whine about it?
Where's the cheese?

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eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump unveils drug price rules
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2020, 08:45:07 PM »
Do you have a point?  Or just here to start an argument?


I pretty clearly stated my point, not sure why you are quoting me and then asking if I have a point.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump unveils drug price rules
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2020, 08:47:44 PM »
So it is a good thing but you are still going to whine about it?

I am not whining about it, I am pointing out the irony of people praising socialism suddenly when Trump is doing it whereas talking about how bad socialism is and Biden is a socialist everywhere else.

I am not against Trump's actions on this matter. In fact I do favor some government involvement in increasing health care coverage for Americans. (Details can be provided if interested)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump unveils drug price rules
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2020, 10:18:00 PM »
I pretty clearly stated my point, not sure why you are quoting me and then asking if I have a point.

So, no.  No point, since you took all those letters and words to not answer the question.

Gotcha.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump unveils drug price rules
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2020, 10:25:07 PM »
I am not whining about it, I am pointing out the irony of people praising socialism suddenly when Trump is doing it whereas talking about how bad socialism is and Biden is a socialist everywhere else.

I am not against Trump's actions on this matter. In fact I do favor some government involvement in increasing health care coverage for Americans. (Details can be provided if interested)

Expanded markets are not "Socialism."  What Trump's doing is not PRICE CONTROL.

Quote
Price controls are government-mandated legal minimum or maximum prices set for
specified goods. They are usually implemented as a means of direct economic
intervention to manage the affordability of certain goods.

Show us in the plan where Trump instituted "price controls."  He didn't. 

But, why let facts interfere with a your poor attempt at trolling.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Trump unveils drug price rules
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2020, 10:32:42 PM »
Off topic, but came to mind based on recent discussion.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump unveils drug price rules
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2020, 10:36:13 PM »
Off topic, but came to mind based on recent discussion.


And the Socialists' solution?  Change the name, because "Socialism" has a negative "connotation". 

Progressivism
Democratic Socialism
The Democratic People's Republic of [fill in the Socialist Regime]
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Trump unveils drug price rules
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2020, 11:24:12 PM »
I am not whining about it, I am pointing out the irony of people praising socialism suddenly when Trump is doing it whereas talking about how bad socialism is and Biden is a socialist everywhere else.

I am not against Trump's actions on this matter. In fact I do favor some government involvement in increasing health care coverage for Americans. (Details can be provided if interested)

It seems like a perfect bridge building opportunity that you decided to waste by calling out the hypocrisy of people who...can't afford expensive drugs? Since when is anti-racketeering considered socialism? Who are these radical fundamentalist libertarian strawmen you are going after?
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump unveils drug price rules
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2020, 11:32:07 PM »
It seems like a perfect bridge building opportunity that you decided to waste by calling out the hypocrisy of people who...can't afford expensive drugs? Since when is anti-racketeering considered socialism? Who are these radical fundamentalist libertarian strawmen you are going after?

Good points, especially the anti-racketeering. 

One of the very few legitimate roles of the US government regarding the economy is to level the playing field so nobody has an unfair advantage, whether that advantage prevents competition or it creates a defacto monopoly that allows for unrestricted price increases or price fixing.

Socialism has NOTHING to do with it.

Everybody clutched their pearls at the news of outrageous EPIPEN prices, but only Trump did anything about it.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump unveils drug price rules
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2020, 09:21:19 PM »
So, no.  No point, since you took all those letters and words to not answer the question.

Gotcha.

Keep your head in the sand in the sand if you want, I am not playing your games.