What to expect at the range (Read 6737 times)

drck1000

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2020, 12:54:03 PM »
I don't keep loaded mags on bench if I'm going downrange. 

That said, I've been there where RSOs have advised me both ways.  Ok to leave loaded mags and not allowed.  Their intentions are to keep everyone safe, so all good.   :thumbsup:

changemyoil66

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2020, 01:26:14 PM »
This issue is one reason I still think there needs to be a range "orientation" process.  They can easily produce a video with all the rules and examples of what to do and not do.  They don't even have to make everyone watch it live.  Post it online.  If they issue everyone a Range card with the dates, and keep a database of when people watch (easy enough if online), they can then require annual refreshers, for any rule changes they might not be aware of.

It would also be simple to let people request reminders when the annual refresher is due.

How strictly they enforce the training is not important.  What's important is making the information available to everyone so these discussions about range rules aren't as frequent.  Should not have to go to a 2A forum to have questions about range safety rules answered. 

An active range  isn't the easiest environment for asking an RSO (while distracting him from watching the line).

Clark County has 1 on YT.  They even use that same one for you to watch if it's your first time there.  It's like 6 minutes.  Short and sweet.  Maybe an org can make 1 that everyone can use?  Also no mention of it the last time I visited KHSC website either about the loaded mags.  But I never seen a TV at KKSC nor do they have wifi. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2020, 03:25:07 PM »
Clark County has 1 on YT.  They even use that same one for you to watch if it's your first time there.  It's like 6 minutes.  Short and sweet.  Maybe an org can make 1 that everyone can use?  Also no mention of it the last time I visited KHSC website either about the loaded mags.  But I never seen a TV at KKSC nor do they have wifi.

Don't need WiFi at KHSC.  A copy of the video would be sufficient which can be played on a tablet, TV or whatever other device they can get. 

One range I went to (Palmetto State Armory in SC) didn't even use A/V for the training.  There were maybe 3 sheets of information to sign and initial.  One had safety rules for the lanes, one had rules of the range such as ammo restrictions and age limits with or without adult supervision, etc., and the third had room to write your personal info and a liability release to sign.

Doesn't have to be overly complicated.  If they can't do video production, then an online PDF you can fill out and submit online AND forms you could optionally read and sign at the range would be valid alternatives.

Many ways to do this without the current method -- which is doing nothing. 

My first trip, I went as part of my handgun safety training group.  First trip on my own, I walked up to the RSO and said, "This is my first time.  What do I need to know?"  He pointed to a couple of signs with sparse rules, pointed out some things on the bulletin board to read, and said, "Let me know if you have any questions."  At least he knew at that point to watch how I do and correct me ("gently") when I was not doing something I should.

That level of individual attention isn't feasible on a busy day, nor should it be needed when the RSOs have a duty to watch the entire line, not just the one or two noobs.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2020, 10:11:55 PM »
The rules aren’t real complicated.
Firearm safety plus what everyone said.
You go your first time, get yelled at (hopefully not on the bullhorn) and then you know.
You won’t forget it, whatever it is you did wrong the first time.

Keep the muzzle down range at all times and stay behind the yellow line during cease fire if not repairing targets. Actions open and magazines out.

If you don’t get yelled at for something in your first couple trips, you haven’t experienced the range.
Just don’t be dangerous.
I miss that old guy with the gruff voice and his bullhorn.

Also those videos from Bruddah Kimo that O.F. posted are very good.

oldfart

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2020, 06:54:20 AM »
If I remember that happened a few years ago.
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It also happened on Maui.
What, Me Worry?

oldfart

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2020, 07:04:20 AM »
Hey guys new gun owner here. Looking to get some handgun range time in at koko head, and would appreciate any guidance that goes along with that. I.E. do I need to bring my own target, loading 5 rounds, etc? This might be useful to other new owners as well. Mahalo..all the knowledge here is much appreciated.  :shaka:

Any other range options on Oahu if you guys recommend any as well
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I might go to the pistol range on Sunday afternoon if you want somebody to coach you through.
Let me know.
I just did that with my other newbie friend a few days ago.
What, Me Worry?

changemyoil66

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2020, 09:19:38 AM »
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I might go to the pistol range on Sunday afternoon if you want somebody to coach you through.
Let me know.
I just did that with my other newbie friend a few days ago.

It's always good to go with someone who's been there before for the 1st time.  I was super intimidated the first time I went.

aieahound

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2020, 10:16:23 AM »
Definitely optimal to go with someone with experience your first time.
And O.F. Is super cool. Take him up on his offer if you can. You won’t find much more experienced.

I went with an experienced shooter my first time and was still intimidated on my first solo flight.

drck1000

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2020, 11:05:50 AM »
Definitely optimal to go with someone with experience your first time.
And O.F. Is super cool. Take him up on his offer if you can. You won’t find much more experienced.

I went with an experienced shooter my first time and was still intimidated on my first solo flight.
I'm sure the berm was intimidated :P

changemyoil66

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2020, 11:17:58 AM »
I'm sure the berm was intimidated :P

Not anymore, Mrs. CMO stopped hitting it.  Thanks to Zipps instruction.

drck1000

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2020, 11:33:02 AM »
Not anymore, Mrs. CMO stopped hitting it.  Thanks to Zipps instruction.
:geekdanc: