What to expect at the range (Read 6744 times)

Cheeehooo

What to expect at the range
« on: December 15, 2020, 07:13:06 AM »
Hey guys new gun owner here. Looking to get some handgun range time in at koko head, and would appreciate any guidance that goes along with that. I.E. do I need to bring my own target, loading 5 rounds, etc? This might be useful to other new owners as well. Mahalo..all the knowledge here is much appreciated.  :shaka:

Any other range options on Oahu if you guys recommend any as well

Drakiir84

"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized."
-Jeff Cooper

macsak

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2020, 07:28:23 AM »
Hey guys new gun owner here. Looking to get some handgun range time in at koko head, and would appreciate any guidance that goes along with that. I.E. do I need to bring my own target, loading 5 rounds, etc? This might be useful to other new owners as well. Mahalo..all the knowledge here is much appreciated.  :shaka:

Any other range options on Oahu if you guys recommend any as well

there's a thread on the forum somewhere about this
don't have time to search right now, sorry
someone will post soon, i hope

oldfart

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2020, 07:31:56 AM »
Hey guys new gun owner here. Looking to get some handgun range time in at koko head, and would appreciate any guidance that goes along with that. I.E. do I need to bring my own target, loading 5 rounds, etc? This might be useful to other new owners as well. Mahalo..all the knowledge here is much appreciated.  :shaka:

Any other range options on Oahu if you guys recommend any as well
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The best thing would be to go to the range with somebody who is already familiar with the SOP.
But a good start would be to watch these videos from my friend Kimo...


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changemyoil66

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2020, 09:18:21 AM »
Here is some important info:

1) Case and uncase firearm at the firing line only. 
2) When casing and uncasing, make sure the barrel is pointed at the target (downrange).  Do not point toward direction of others, even if not touching it.
3) When not using the firearm, keep the pistol resting and pointing at the target, see above for direction of pistol
4) When a cease fire is called, do not go pass the yellow line, EVEN TO GRAB SOMETHING.  Grab all items needed before cease fire.  You will get scoldings from range officers (RO)
5) Load 5 rds max in mags
6) No rapid fire allowed, so about 1 second between shots is OK
7) Main rule is KEEP THE BARREL POINTED DOWN RANGE.  Even when reloading, I've seen so many guys flagging people while reloading.
8) When pistol is not in use, keep slide locked backed
9) No holstering at all


Have fun and listen to the RO's if commands given, don't argue.

drck1000

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2020, 09:31:58 AM »
Echo recommendation to go with someone who is familiar.  There are many on this board who have offered in the past to host folks and show them the ropes.  Beyond that, be familiar with the rules and when in doubt, stop and ask.  Most folks at the range are happy to help.  Can't stress the firearm safety rules enough, particularly muzzle in a safe direction. 

Understand that going to the range for the first time can be intimidating, but we've all been there.  Be open minded, listen to Range Officers and pay attention to SAFETY at ALL times.  Of course, have fun!  Shooting is fun!

changemyoil66

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2020, 09:38:27 AM »
To update the top 10 reasons, it's OK to leave loaded mags on the table during a cease fire.

stangzilla

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2020, 09:59:00 AM »
a spotting scope is a good thing to have to see how you are shooting.  on pistol side I just use small binoculars bc its not that far
sucks to be shooting and you don't know where you are hitting
after you load firearm, shoot all that's in the mag or cylinder.  don't shoot some and then set it down on the bench loaded to look at your target

oldfart

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2020, 10:05:20 AM »
a spotting scope is a good thing to have to see how you are shooting.  on pistol side I just use small binoculars bc its not that far
sucks to be shooting and you don't know where you are hitting
after you load firearm, shoot all that's in the mag or cylinder.  don't shoot some and then set it down on the bench loaded to look at your target
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I practice zen shooting.
Zen shooters can see every shot hitting the center of the target. They don't need a spotting scope.
 :rofl:
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omnigun

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2020, 10:53:41 AM »
Wear a mask and have ear and eye protection.  Don't forget any of those else you can't shoot!

ren

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2020, 10:57:55 AM »
To update the top 10 reasons, it's OK to leave loaded mags on the table during a cease fire.

pistol side too?
I don't recommend any of the indoor private ranges ... too buku..even if you did write a letter of support to local officials.....
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rpoL98

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2020, 11:57:00 AM »
Any other range options on Oahu if you guys recommend any as well
if you're a active duty mil, retired mil, or DOD Govt employee/retired, you may be able to access some of the islands' on-base military ranges.

Cheeehooo

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2020, 05:45:18 PM »
Right on thanks for all the good info!!

changemyoil66

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2020, 08:29:48 PM »
pistol side too?
I don't recommend any of the indoor private ranges ... too buku..even if you did write a letter of support to local officials.....
Ive been doing it since 2016 and no one said anything. And nothing written on the rule board either.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2020, 10:28:57 PM »
To update the top 10 reasons, it's OK to leave loaded mags on the table during a cease fire.

RSO told me that's a no-no.  Scolded us when my friend forgot.

I only leave unloaded mags on the table during ceasefires.  Loaded go either in my pockets or in my range bag.

I can see some bad things being avoided by not leaving a gun and loaded mag next to each other.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

dogman

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2020, 05:55:06 AM »
My experience is rifle side okay to have loaded magazines on bench during cease fire, pistol side no loaded magazines on bench during cease fire.

oldfart

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2020, 06:28:44 AM »
My experience is rifle side okay to have loaded magazines on bench during cease fire, pistol side no loaded magazines on bench during cease fire.
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Now I'm confused. I thought they did away with the loaded mag rule on the pistol side.

Regardless, I personally won't leave a loaded mag on the bench uncovered.
You never know when some nut case might go berserk.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2020, 11:59:03 AM »
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Now I'm confused. I thought they did away with the loaded mag rule on the pistol side.

Regardless, I personally won't leave a loaded mag on the bench uncovered.
You never know when some nut case might go berserk.

This issue is one reason I still think there needs to be a range "orientation" process.  They can easily produce a video with all the rules and examples of what to do and not do.  They don't even have to make everyone watch it live.  Post it online.  If they issue everyone a Range card with the dates, and keep a database of when people watch (easy enough if online), they can then require annual refreshers, for any rule changes they might not be aware of.

It would also be simple to let people request reminders when the annual refresher is due.

How strictly they enforce the training is not important.  What's important is making the information available to everyone so these discussions about range rules aren't as frequent.  Should not have to go to a 2A forum to have questions about range safety rules answered. 

An active range  isn't the easiest environment for asking an RSO (while distracting him from watching the line).
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

zippz

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2020, 12:35:56 PM »
To update the top 10 reasons, it's OK to leave loaded mags on the table during a cease fire.

Seemed like it was an RSO making up their own rule than an official rule.  I wonder if has to do with suicides, a person comes up to the bench during ceasefire, loads, and pops a round off.

ren

Re: What to expect at the range
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2020, 12:53:06 PM »
Seemed like it was an RSO making up their own rule than an official rule.  I wonder if has to do with suicides, a person comes up to the bench during ceasefire, loads, and pops a round off.

If I remember that happened a few years ago.
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