Rally Point (Read 16577 times)

MassConfusion

Re: Rally Point
« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2021, 08:03:51 PM »
I have bought some phone off the net that were factory rejects. The ones I bought in particular are.kind of off brand ones there are no longer supported. I'm using one I had bought new but the other ones I got the only problem was the digitizer for the screen was shot. I just replaced it and for about 40 bucks I was good to go. Only problem is the is is maybe 2 years out from the final update they published. I still like it and think is more secure than the big names like Samsung and apple.
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ren

Re: Rally Point
« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2021, 08:04:43 PM »
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hvybarrels

Re: Rally Point
« Reply #42 on: January 08, 2021, 08:07:52 PM »
I would love to do an IRL but right now groups are limited to 5 per covid-1984 restrictions, so cannot be careless about recommendations especially now that LEAs are gearing up for full Stasi mode
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aaronc5362

Re: Rally Point
« Reply #43 on: January 08, 2021, 08:13:05 PM »
Funny. I just watched a segment on parler on yt. They are experincing an extremely high amount of new users today so that could explain it being laggy. But silicon valley is trynna shut them down.

I never even heard of this before. But i watched it cause it was mentioned here lol

changemyoil66

Re: Rally Point
« Reply #44 on: January 08, 2021, 08:26:14 PM »
Google banned paler due to "urgent safety threat". Where have we heards this rational b4? And why did so many except a few realize "in the name of safety" is a bad reason to violate rights.

Inb4 private censorship doesnt apply to private parties cause i know some may still not understand the point that is being made.

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hvybarrels

Re: Rally Point
« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2021, 08:29:17 PM »
Before installing APKs from questionable online sources please do your homework so that you are not accidentally loading contaminated files. Ideally those looking to run banned apps will have much improved experience by installing a custom ROM, but this does not completely stop your phone from spying on you. The only way to be sure is to physically de-solder the mic, camera, and gps unit and use plug-in headphones that are disconnected when not talking. Not saying there is a need for that now, but we do have a Fusion center up in Wahiawa so when IRL meetings become a thing again it may be worth considering. Also stopped by TCX wireless today looking for burner phones/sims but I could not tell how the prepaid plans worked so I am still searching for a way to not enter in any personal identifying information. Definitely do not buy anything on Amazon because they can trace the accounts and IMEI numbers back to you.

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MassConfusion

Re: Rally Point
« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2021, 08:37:24 PM »
I realize communications are monitored provider side unless otherwise encrypted. Not too sure how secure Linux is but you can always look into these.
https://pine64.com/product-category/pinephone/?v=0446c16e2e66
Just a thought.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. ― Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
 “The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.” ― Mark Twain

hvybarrels

Re: Rally Point
« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2021, 09:01:58 PM »
I realize communications are monitored provider side unless otherwise encrypted. Not too sure how secure Linux is but you can always look into these.
https://pine64.com/product-category/pinephone/?v=0446c16e2e66
Just a thought.

That looks promising, but warning labels still say that is is for developers and not yet a consumer ready product. Ideally we can find some way of getting the technologically challenged boomers here to the rally point as well.

I just checked and Signal offers group messaging, but blowing up phones with news feeds is less than ideal. Still it is a way more secure way of sharing information than the private message feature here. Could come in handy for when covid restrictions are lifted and we can meet again.

One of the best people to follow on the subject is Ed Snowden. Although "retired" for some time now and not privy to the latest tools he has some great insight into privacy and security

https://www.gadgetsnow.com/tech-news/doing-these-6-difficult-things-may-make-your-smartphone-hack-proof/articleshow/71253039.cms
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ren

Re: Rally Point
« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2021, 09:30:55 PM »
I was looking into Graphene a month ago.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Rally Point
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2021, 10:11:15 PM »
It's kind of a funny question especially given there are lots of old farts here. What did ya'll do before the internet?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Rally Point
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2021, 11:49:57 PM »
It's kind of a funny question especially given there are lots of old farts here. What did ya'll do before the internet?

Maybe you should start:  What have you done of any consequence since the Internet?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

rpoL98

Re: Rally Point
« Reply #51 on: January 09, 2021, 12:00:34 AM »
i'm thinking any IRL meeting, we're going to be infiltrated by HPD and/or FBI informants, trolls, their ilk.  It's sad that we're becoming East Germany.

hvybarrels

Re: Rally Point
« Reply #52 on: January 09, 2021, 12:17:58 AM »
It's kind of a funny question especially given there are lots of old farts here. What did ya'll do before the internet?

This is actually one of the most important questions we can ask to help get us through the next few decades, and I am very grateful you brought it up. Like so many other technologies that were promised to change our lives for the better, the internet has become a total disappointment. We were promised that it would promote free speech and democratize the planet, but today we witnessed the prison doors slam shut. People who are fortunate enough to still have their jobs are more productive than ever, because now that they can take work home with them the work never ends. Kids who would have forced their parents to resist unlawful lockdowns are developing mental problems and killing themselves from social isolation after being hypnotized by crappy entertainment for the past nine months.

Asking those who still remember how they used to get things done without involving network computers is a great way to get back some of that freedom and autonomy that was stolen from us.

Time is not on our side now that the Federal government just got hijacked by a bunch of techno communists
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Rally Point
« Reply #53 on: January 09, 2021, 09:27:14 AM »
Maybe you should start:  What have you done of any consequence since the Internet?

Troll here often?

eyeeatingfish

Re: Rally Point
« Reply #54 on: January 09, 2021, 09:32:06 AM »
This is actually one of the most important questions we can ask to help get us through the next few decades, and I am very grateful you brought it up. Like so many other technologies that were promised to change our lives for the better, the internet has become a total disappointment. We were promised that it would promote free speech and democratize the planet, but today we witnessed the prison doors slam shut. People who are fortunate enough to still have their jobs are more productive than ever, because now that they can take work home with them the work never ends. Kids who would have forced their parents to resist unlawful lockdowns are developing mental problems and killing themselves from social isolation after being hypnotized by crappy entertainment for the past nine months.

Asking those who still remember how they used to get things done without involving network computers is a great way to get back some of that freedom and autonomy that was stolen from us.

Time is not on our side now that the Federal government just got hijacked by a bunch of techno communists

I would assume the gun stores would be one sort of hub but not the best way to disseminate information. I think people would have to subscribe to newsletters by the Hawaii Rifle Association or other such groups. This would give us regular sources of information and can announce times and places where we could meet. I grew up in the infancy of the public internet so I have always had this in one form or the other to communicate but clearly people managed to organize without it. MLK Jr. didn't get the million man march with Twitter.

hvybarrels

Re: Rally Point
« Reply #55 on: January 09, 2021, 09:33:49 AM »
i'm thinking any IRL meeting, we're going to be infiltrated by HPD and/or FBI informants, trolls, their ilk.  It's sad that we're becoming East Germany.

The thing about East Germany is that it eventually failed not because of a violent revolution, but the people simply stopped going along with the program. When Erich Honecker ordered troops to fire on crowds of people and they refused the wall came down within a week. Slavery requires participation.

“There has never been a slave who did not choose to be a slave. Their choice may be between bondage and death, but the choice is always there.” Tyron Lannister

As far as keeping infiltrators out of meetings, people have been more or less successfully doing that for thousands of years. The difference is with modern technology we are actively inviting them in, and as a consequence they have grown lazy. Forcing them to get off their bum and do a spy campaign is real work vs letting AI scan the hard drives of the "enemy list"

Also these are small islands which means informants are much easier to pick out. Hawaii actually has an advantage in that way.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Rally Point
« Reply #56 on: January 09, 2021, 10:29:54 AM »
Troll here often?

Obviously, your critical thinking skills are lacking.

It's a serious question -- probably more serious than your question.

The Internet is NOT the solution.  It has become the problem.  From an information perspective, it's a godsend for us research-aholics who thrive on learning new things and keeping abreast of changes in our career fields.

However, for the most part, it's also become an addiction for a large sector of the country.  Kids graduating high school and college can't remember facts or directions for how to do things without Googling them.  They are addicted to social media -- to the point that researchers say getting "likes" on a post or video is akin to the feeling one gets when playing a slot machine and winning.

It's also become a repository for your entire life, allowing outsiders to access your most critical and personal information -- that includes government agencies.

With all the bad actors using the Internet as a medium for their scams, misinformation, stalking, political messaging, and commercial ads, I believe there is at least as much bad on that information highway as there is good. 

I'm 59, but I bet I was doing more with computers, databases, digital communications and similar technologies in the 80s and 90s than many people do today.  Simply asking what old farts did before the Internet is a very narrow question.  Not all of us were/are technologically illiterate.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Rally Point
« Reply #57 on: January 09, 2021, 12:09:47 PM »
Stop trolling. It is a great question and actually introduces something positive to the conversation besides just complaining about the problems we are facing and bragging about past accomplishments
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groveler

Re: Rally Point
« Reply #58 on: January 09, 2021, 01:39:15 PM »
It's kind of a funny question especially given there are lots of old farts here. What did ya'll do before the internet?
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Inspector

Re: Rally Point
« Reply #59 on: January 09, 2021, 01:48:26 PM »
As far as the basics go I just joined Parler on desktop and cannot find 2ahi, HDF, HRA, HIFICO. Figured at least one organization would be all over this by now

It seems extremely buggy at the moment. Most likely they are getting attacked pretty hard
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