Irrelevant. We have DACA kids here who are basically American and may not speak any language of their place of birth and may not have any connections but we are supposed to send them back?

DACA and anchor babies are two separate issues. Anchor babies are citizens, we can't deport them, they are not part of DACA.

Plus the DACA program was to get these people a legal immigrant status. It wasn't some blanket pardon. It was like a plea deal in court, a DAG (deferred acceptance of guilt) where the criminal completes a set of requirements and at the end their record is cleared. You suggestion that they apply just like everyone else doesn't even work. If someone is in the USA illegally and they want to apply for a green card they have to leave the country, apply, and wait for the decision. If they were here for more than 180 days they may be barred from a green card for up to 10 years. That simply isn't a realistic solution to the problem.

DACA kids are not basically citizens.  They are not US citizens at all because they were not born in the US, nor took the citizen ship exam and passed. Anchor babies are US citizens since born on US soil.  So send anyone who isn't a US citizen, legal resident, etc..back. If they don't speak the language of their birth country, then too bad.  It's the fault of their parents or who ever brought them over illegally.

Many are old enough now to have tried to get citizen ship or legal status and not rely on a XO which can be changed with any new president. 

XO to under trans ban in military. With trumps xo, a person must serve as their biological gender and cant receive any gender reassessment treatment.

Now they can ID as what ever and can receive treatment.

So guy/girl on hormone trearment gets deployed mid cycle. What could go wrong?

ID says male for a born female. Said soldier gets captured. All intel reports say a captired female is in  AO. Not a "male".  So military overlooks it cause a female, not a male was found. False intel report. What could go wrong?

Tax payers should not be providing ELECTIVE medical treatments or surgeries to soldiers.  PERIOD!!

If the military pays for reassignment surgeries and all the other treatments needed to transition (counseling, hormones, augmentations, etc.), where does it end?  I should be able to request treatments for baldness, teeth whitening, cosmetic surgery and other elective medical treatments, all paid by the DoD.

There are people leading normal 9-5 lives and decide to halt the transition process because it's just too much work.  With the hormones, hair removal, makeup, and exercises needed to change their appearance, it's just too much work and inconvenience.  Imagine trying to do that and maintain a 24/7/364 readiness posture.

I still think this issue involves too much of a psychological component to allow transgenders to serve.  It's a risk.  Statistically, almost half of transgenders attempt suicide -- about 40% that we know of.  We have a rising rate of suicide in the military.  Now, combine the two.  See any problems?

I've read opinions on why transgenders attempt suicide.  None of that matters, since the stats are the stats.  DoD is about reducing risk for recruits, not taking on existing problems.  We have enough applicants without mental health issues.  No sense in giving that slot to a transgender and risking mission readiness.

The military has always been a Democrat playground for social experimentation.  Where else can they order people to follow their behavioral dictates?

Biden will undo the 2a
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/biden-proposes-200-gun-tax-firearm-buyback-program-along-13-page-form-asks-fingerprints-photograph/

Biden will undo the 2a

He will end up getting a lot of civilians and alphabet agency goons killed.

XO to pay unemployment to those who refuse to work due to health concerns signed.  No one will take advantage of this...(sarcasm)

The fact that the leaders of these groups endorsed him when he straight up said he would mess up the industry means either their leaders are on the take, or incompetent.

The fact that the leaders of these groups endorsed him when he straight up said he would mess up the industry means either their leaders are on the take, or incompetent.

My take is the MSM flew cover for Biden, refusing to acknowledge, or outright spin, his positions to keep voters uninformed or misinformed.

The press is the enemy of the people.  Don't lose sight of that fact.

My take is the MSM flew cover for Biden, refusing to acknowledge, or outright spin, his positions to keep voters uninformed or misinformed.

The press is the enemy of the people.  Don't lose sight of that fact.

The best is BLM thinks they've been dooped.  Must have more paypal trusting  type of people in charge.

The issue isn't the innocent people.  It's the future.  You don't negotiate with terrorists threatening innocent people because if you do, then it will never end.  More terrorists will threaten more people.    More innocents will get hurt long term.  Same with dreamers.  Give them all citizenship and the next batch of illegals will do the same thing.  Sometimes you need to sacrifice some to end the cycle. If not more people will get hurt long term.

And what do we do with the dreamers? Too bad, so sad, go back to a country you may have no family, no connection, and may not speak the language?  By all means, deport the parents who brought them in, they broke the law. So many of the dreamers didn't.

And are the dreamers really a threat? How are they a threat?

DACA kids are not basically citizens.  They are not US citizens at all because they were not born in the US, nor took the citizen ship exam and passed. Anchor babies are US citizens since born on US soil.  So send anyone who isn't a US citizen, legal resident, etc..back. If they don't speak the language of their birth country, then too bad.  It's the fault of their parents or who ever brought them over illegally.

Many are old enough now to have tried to get citizen ship or legal status and not rely on a XO which can be changed with any new president.

Yes, DACA kids are not citizens. What I was saying is that they grew up here, in our culture and in our language. They basically live as do any actual US citizen.

I do agree we should take a firm stance on people who entered here illegally as an adult. Deport them and they can take their DACA kids if they want but kicking the DACA people out punishes them for something they had no control over, a wrong they didn't choose to commit.

It is not the fault of a DACA kid who signed up for the program Obama put in place. Just like a tax loophole, you can't fault the taxpayer who uses the ta code available to them. Don't have to renew the DACA program and accept new applicants but the people who did comply with the government program should be dealt with according to the fact that they complied with the rules of the program.

And what do we do with the dreamers? Too bad, so sad, go back to a country you may have no family, no connection, and may not speak the language?  By all means, deport the parents who brought them in, they broke the law. So many of the dreamers didn't.

And are the dreamers really a threat? How are they a threat?

Give them option:

Apply for citizenship -- 3 yr time limit
Serve 4 years active or 8 years reserve military duty

Options .... if you really want to stay and become a citizen, contribute in some meaningful way that shows you are an American, not just an illegal alien who believes they are victims of their parents and the immigration system. 

Their parents brought them here in hopes of making their futures better.  They need to show they want to live up to that promise and not become a burden to the citizens.

And what do we do with the dreamers? Too bad, so sad, go back to a country you may have no family, no connection, and may not speak the language?  By all means, deport the parents who brought them in, they broke the law. So many of the dreamers didn't.

And are the dreamers really a threat? How are they a threat?

In an unfortunate way yes.   They were unlucky because of their parents actions.   Perhaps a middle ground would be not to give them citizenship and have them remain in limbo for the rest of their lives.  There needs to be some sort of example.   If not the next batch of illegals will do the same thing and it will never end.   I know it might seem heartless but something has to be done to stop the law breaking.

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Tax payers should not be providing ELECTIVE medical treatments or surgeries to soldiers.  PERIOD!!

If the military pays for reassignment surgeries and all the other treatments needed to transition (counseling, hormones, augmentations, etc.), where does it end?  I should be able to request treatments for baldness, teeth whitening, cosmetic surgery and other elective medical treatments, all paid by the DoD.

There are people leading normal 9-5 lives and decide to halt the transition process because it's just too much work.  With the hormones, hair removal, makeup, and exercises needed to change their appearance, it's just too much work and inconvenience.  Imagine trying to do that and maintain a 24/7/364 readiness posture.

I still think this issue involves too much of a psychological component to allow transgenders to serve.  It's a risk.  Statistically, almost half of transgenders attempt suicide -- about 40% that we know of.  We have a rising rate of suicide in the military.  Now, combine the two.  See any problems?

I've read opinions on why transgenders attempt suicide.  None of that matters, since the stats are the stats.  DoD is about reducing risk for recruits, not taking on existing problems.  We have enough applicants without mental health issues.  No sense in giving that slot to a transgender and risking mission readiness.

The military has always been a Democrat playground for social experimentation.  Where else can they order people to follow their behavioral dictates?

The gym I trained at for my bodybuilding competition also had a woman who was a man and competed in the mens physique division.  She had her boobs removed and was on the juice.  Actually looked like a dude if you didn't know any better.  Her bf was born a dude, but ID'd as a female.  So it was a total opposite kind of relationship.  Since then, the guy who ID'd as a female committed suicide.

So this female who competed was also in the military and had to wear the female uniform, even though she was built like a dude due to the test supplements.  Wasn't too bad with the ACU's, but when it came to the class A uniforms, she was uncomfortable. 

I'm sure immigration is in here somewhere BUT

Federal judge blocks Biden's deportation pause for two weeks 
https://www.theblaze.com/news/federal-judge-blocks-bidens-deportation-pause-for-two-weeks?utm_content=bufferd4f70&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=fb-theblaze&fbclid=IwAR3_ofOViwotFUsEhtz4ACXP9PoEQOTS0bfXtseTtGEsgs_kG09kWSNwzL4

Saw this video elsewhere and got a huge laugh out of that senile old coot.  Dunno how to post videos.

Really lost without someone leading him.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1354171683133911042

Biden will cancel all private prisons.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-private-prisons-susan-rice-b1793046.html

Good idea. 

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