Amazon: Mail-in Voting Encourages Fraud (Read 7134 times)

hvybarrels

I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

ren

Re: Amazon: Mail-in Voting Encourages Fraud
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2021, 09:18:27 PM »
that's internal voting for them not the country's election system - because as we have seen we had the most honest, fair and MOST turnout in 2020! And a President that garnered more votes than any other candidate in history! :worship:
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omnigun

Re: Amazon: Mail-in Voting Encourages Fraud
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2021, 10:44:20 PM »
Just an attempt to disincentivize voters.

ren

Re: Amazon: Mail-in Voting Encourages Fraud
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2021, 10:54:22 PM »
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ren

Re: Amazon: Mail-in Voting Encourages Fraud
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2021, 10:54:40 PM »
some people can't read
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aletheuo137

Re: Amazon: Mail-in Voting Encourages Fraud
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2021, 06:40:42 AM »
some people can't read
I would say can't think for themselves

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Amazon: Mail-in Voting Encourages Fraud
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2021, 12:57:01 PM »
Just an attempt to disincentivize voters.

Yeah.  Jeff Bezos is SUCH a Republican!!   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I thought Democrats were all about maximum participation.  But you're accusing him of trying to lower participation?

Maybe he just doesn't want the same fraud-enabling process that helped Biden win to unfairly decide the outcome of the union organizing election?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Amazon: Mail-in Voting Encourages Fraud
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2021, 02:26:21 PM »
Yeah.  Jeff Bezos is SUCH a Republican!!   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I thought Democrats were all about maximum participation.  But you're accusing him of trying to lower participation?

Maybe he just doesn't want the same fraud-enabling process that helped Biden win to unfairly decide the outcome of the union organizing election?

Voter disenfranchisement isn't party based.  There are reasons Amazon doesn't want unions...

If you really want to you can make mail voting very secure.   Unique info etc.  Or 2fa online.

Still no proof biden won unfairly  #fakenews

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Amazon: Mail-in Voting Encourages Fraud
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2021, 02:28:26 PM »
Voter disenfranchisement isn't party based.  There are reasons Amazon doesn't want unions...

If you really want to you can make mail voting very secure.   Unique info etc.  Or 2fa online.

Still no proof biden won unfairly  #fakenews

So, you admit mail-in voting is not secure, because the things you are referring to that could make it "very secure" haven't been done.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Amazon: Mail-in Voting Encourages Fraud
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2021, 02:41:43 PM »
so dumb. Where in Amazon's internal election is Biden running?
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Amazon: Mail-in Voting Encourages Fraud
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2021, 02:54:11 PM »
so dumb. Where in Amazon's internal election is Biden running?

Biden isn't the problem.  Election tampering and fraud has been a problem in certain cities for decades.  Nobody wants to fix it, because the people in office benefitted -- or at least don't want their elections to be in question.

The Amazon thing is just another example of hypocrisy, since Dems are in collusion with Big Tech and are proponents of mail-in voting.

Amazon showed their true allegiance to the Big Tech-Democrat-Far-Left ideals by kicking Parler off their servers.  Until now, Amazon just made massive contributions to Dems and their PACs. 

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Google’s parent company Alphabet is one of the largest corporate donors during the 2020 election cycle. The company’s employees and PACs have contributed a total of $21 million to presidential and congressional candidates since 2019.

Nearly 80 percent of the funds went to Democrats, while just 7 percent went to Republicans.
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Microsoft
Total contribution: $17 million
Top recipients: Joe Biden, Democrat super PACs

Also a major donor in the 2020 election season, Microsoft’s PACs and employees shelled out a total $17 million to presidential and congressional candidates through individual and PAC donations.
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Amazon
Total contribution: $8.9 million
Top recipients: Joe Biden

The e-commerce giant contributed $8.9 million through individual and PAC donors to federal candidates.

While Democrats received the majority of the money, Amazon has one of the highest Republican funding rates among “Big Tech” donors, contributing $922,000, or 14 percent of total funds, to federal Republican candidates.
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Facebook
Total contribution: $6 million
Top recipients: Joe Biden

Employees and PACs affiliated with Facebook donated a total of $6 million during the 2020 election cycle. More than 92 percent of the funds came from individuals. Mirroring Google’s and Microsoft’s partisan splits, Facebook spent nearly 80 percent of the funds on Democrats and only 10 percent on Republicans.
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Apple
Total contribution: $5.7 million
Top recipients: Joe Biden

Apple doesn’t have its own PAC. But the company’s employees and their family members contributed a total of $5.7 million in the 2020 election cycle. Nearly 80 percent of the money went to Democrats. And a paltry 4.3 percent went to Republicans.
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Netflix
Total contribution: $5.42 million
Top recipients: Democrat super PACs

Like Apple, Netflix also doesn’t have a PAC. Yet, its employees and their family members contributed a total of $5.42 million during the 2020 election cycle.
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Twitter
Total contribution: $689,000
Top recipients: Joe Biden

Twitter employees and their family members contributed $689,000 in the 2020 election cycle, mostly to Democrat presidential candidates.

https://observer.com/2020/11/big-tech-2020-presidential-election-donation-breakdown-ranking/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Amazon: Mail-in Voting Encourages Fraud
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2021, 04:04:04 PM »
So, you admit mail-in voting is not secure, because the things you are referring to that could make it "very secure" haven't been done.

There's different levels as with everything in life.  You can make in person voting more secure too.  Nothing is perfect. 

robtmc

Re: Amazon: Mail-in Voting Encourages Fraud
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2021, 04:28:07 PM »
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Amazon: Mail-in Voting Encourages Fraud
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2021, 04:48:52 PM »
There's different levels as with everything in life.  You can make in person voting more secure too.  Nothing is perfect.

Mail-in voting will never be as secure as in-person voting.

So, how bad is "not too bad" when it comes to protecting the democratic process in the US?  Nobody is asking for perfect (this is the government, after all).  We are asking for common sense measures that prevent cheating -- period.  That should not be a partisan issue.  Ever wonder why the Democrats are the only party having an issue with voter ID, cleaning up registration roles, ensuring proper observation in all phases of ballot handling and counting, and answering the "Why?" when an anomaly is identified?  Cockroaches are afraid of the light.

We do more to protect against cheating on the SAT than we do to ensure election integrity.  All SAT tests are still being administered IN PERSON & photo ID is required -- not online, and not via mail-in answer sheets.  I guess the pandemic hasn't upended everything, huh?

BTW, you do know states like PA planned to do an all-absentee-ballot election (no justification needed) in October, 2019, long before the pandemic started, right?  COVID was just a convenient excuse.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Amazon: Mail-in Voting Encourages Fraud
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2021, 04:55:24 PM »
so let me understand this - a victim of blatant online fraud is giving us advice
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Amazon: Mail-in Voting Encourages Fraud
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2021, 04:58:16 PM »
so let me understand this - a victim of blatant online fraud is giving us advice

If it were anyone else, I might say he has the experience to backup his advice.

Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to learn from these experiences.  His advice isn't worth the electrons used to transmit them.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Amazon: Mail-in Voting Encourages Fraud
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2021, 05:24:45 PM »
It's all about the risk to reward ratio.  Even if you compare the scam. Out of over 1000 transactions online I got scammed once.  Being too worried about that and only shopping in person just isn't practical.   I have saved far more money and effort shopping online than I have lost in fraud.  Just like of fraud happens very infrequently because of Mail in voting the reward of accessibility is worth the risk.  I would prefer they don't send it to everyone.  I don't support that aspect.  Hopefully they learn from the past.  But to say the election was overturned because of fraud without evidence is like saying eBay scams me every other package.   It's just not true. 

robtmc

Re: Amazon: Mail-in Voting Encourages Fraud
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2021, 05:44:41 PM »
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Amazon: Mail-in Voting Encourages Fraud
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2021, 05:51:39 PM »
It's all about the risk to reward ratio.  Even if you compare the scam. Out of over 1000 transactions online I got scammed once.  Being too worried about that and only shopping in person just isn't practical.   I have saved far more money and effort shopping online than I have lost in fraud.  Just like of fraud happens very infrequently because of Mail in voting the reward of accessibility is worth the risk.  I would prefer they don't send it to everyone.  I don't support that aspect.  Hopefully they learn from the past.  But to say the election was overturned because of fraud without evidence is like saying eBay scams me every other package.   It's just not true.

So, now this thread is about you (as usual)?

Go figure.

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

MauiAxis

Re: Amazon: Mail-in Voting Encourages Fraud
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2021, 05:54:08 PM »
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