It has started;

https://trendingpolitics.com/breaking-texas-lawmaker-introduces-bill-to-begin-process-of-secession/?utm_source=economics

I'd be willing to request "Countyhood" in the new Texas nation.
I want to get the hell out of Rule by Honolulu.
My county has way more in common with Texas than Oahu.
Cows, pigs, guns, and 4WD trucks.
I'm sure Local Hawaiians are very willing to bail on Democrat run
government.
I am.  Free Hawaii and long live the republic of Texas!

Never going to happen....

Never going to happen....

Texas is the only state that can legally pull it off
Big island is not all that happy with Honolulu.
We can do just fine without you.
We could be a perfect vacation spot for Texans.

Never going to happen....

It is obvious you need an education regarding how foreign territory can legally be added to the US; as both Hawaii and Texas have similar legal arguments, against the US empire.

US Constitutional law explicitly states that the annexation, of any legally recognized territory that is outside of the US, can only be made via Treaty, between both affected nation states.  Both Texas and later Hawaii were annexed via a Congressional joint-resolution, which is in clear violation, of US Constitutional law, as any legislation enacted by Congress only has jurisdiction within the borders of the US.

The fact the illegal annexation of both Texas and Hawaii was allowed to take place, only reaffirms the degenerating of the American Republic to a US empire took place farther back than people realize, as evidenced by imperialists that infiltrated the American government, resulting in the long-term illegal occupations, of both nation states today.

It is obvious you need an education regarding how foreign territory can legally be added to the US; as both Hawaii and Texas have similar legal arguments, against the US empire.

US Constitutional law explicitly states that the annexation, of any legally recognized territory that is outside of the US, can only be made via Treaty, between both affected nation states.  Both Texas and later Hawaii were annexed via a Congressional joint-resolution, which is in clear violation, of US Constitutional law, as any legislation enacted by Congress only has jurisdiction within the borders of the US.

The fact the illegal annexation of both Texas and Hawaii was allowed to take place, only reaffirms the degenerating of the American Republic to a US empire took place farther back than people realize, as evidenced by imperialists that infiltrated the American government, resulting in the long-term illegal occupations, of both nation states today.

This is January.

Summer is the time for reruns.

You really ought to creates an index of your previous posts that you can copy and paste rather than retyping everything in more than one thread.  Would save you hours writing it, and us days reading it.

 

 

This is January.

Summer is the time for reruns.

You really ought to creates an index of your previous posts that you can copy and paste rather than retyping everything in more than one thread.  Would save you hours writing it, and us days reading it.

 

 

I agree Flapp, but it is obvious that some young people might suffer from short attention spans as well as problems reading carefully.   

Texas is the only state that can legally pull it off
Big island is not all that happy with Honolulu.
We can do just fine without you.
We could be a perfect vacation spot for Texans.

The other 49 states wouldn't let it happen, nor a decent chunk of texas itself.  California tried this too I believe.

Imagine a state the size of TX owing no taxes to the US treasury.  They can continue using US dollars, but they have to buy them the way foreign countries do now.  A Texas currency would have to have some sort of financial backing, so I don't see that happening immediately.

The state has shipping opportunities on the Gulf coast, and trade with Mexico would increase.  In fact, if the rest of the US wants to trade with Mexico, any goods that transit through TX could be levied a fee to help pay for roads.

TX could become a great laboratory for immigration control, as they would have to not only fortify control measures to the south, but also US-TX borders to prevent illegal entry.  Visitors would have to go through customs just like any other international travel requires.

I think of it like Canada.  TX would be another country on the North American continent.  All the same things we and Canada do to allow travel and commerce would be similar.

It is obvious you need an education regarding how foreign territory can legally be added to the US; as both Hawaii and Texas have similar legal arguments, against the US empire.

US Constitutional law explicitly states that the annexation, of any legally recognized territory that is outside of the US, can only be made via Treaty, between both affected nation states.  Both Texas and later Hawaii were annexed via a Congressional joint-resolution, which is in clear violation, of US Constitutional law, as any legislation enacted by Congress only has jurisdiction within the borders of the US.

The fact the illegal annexation of both Texas and Hawaii was allowed to take place, only reaffirms the degenerating of the American Republic to a US empire took place farther back than people realize, as evidenced by imperialists that infiltrated the American government, resulting in the long-term illegal occupations, of both nation states today.

Not commenting on legality but practicality.  Its not practical to happen.  It won't happen.  Neither hawaii nor texas will leave America by itself.   Time to get over the annexation of Hawaii.  Its over, you guys lost.  Legal or not, that's how it is.

Imagine a state the size of TX owing no taxes to the US treasury.  They can continue using US dollars, but they have to buy them the way foreign countries do now.  A Texas currency would have to have some sort of financial backing, so I don't see that happening immediately.

The state has shipping opportunities on the Gulf coast, and trade with Mexico would increase.  In fact, if the rest of the US wants to trade with Mexico, any goods that transit through TX could be levied a fee to help pay for roads.

TX could become a great laboratory for immigration control, as they would have to not only fortify control measures to the south, but also US-TX borders to prevent illegal entry.  Visitors would have to go through customs just like any other international travel requires.

I think of it like Canada.  TX would be another country on the North American continent.  All the same things we and Canada do to allow travel and commerce would be similar.

You know there are other states bordering Mexico right?

You know there are other states bordering Mexico right?

You know taking the long way around to travel to & from Louisiana and other Southern states won't be cost-effective, right?  Especially after the cost of fuel skyrockets in the name of  "Green Energy".  Burning all that fuel to transport goods and people will be counter-productive to saving the planet.

BTW, the oil and natural gas that Biden is shutting down isn't going to affect Climate Change one single tiny bit.  We'll just be buying the oil like we used to and paying 2-3 times the current prices.

So much for Biden's Green New Deal policies.

You know taking the long way around to travel to & from Louisiana and other Southern states won't be cost-effective, right?  Especially after the cost of fuel skyrockets in the name of  "Green Energy".  Burning all that fuel to transport goods and people will be counter-productive to saving the planet.

BTW, the oil and natural gas that Biden is shutting down isn't going to affect Climate Change one single tiny bit.  We'll just be buying the oil like we used to and paying 2-3 times the current prices.

So much for Biden's Green New Deal policies.

You know if Bidens green new deal works we won't be using as much oil.  Replace all federal vehicles with electric, less gas cars in general. No coal/oil plants, replace with wind and solar.  ETC.  It will save a hell alot more of our planet than staying the course.

Also boats exist.

You know if Bidens green new deal works we won't be using as much oil.  Replace all federal vehicles with electric, less gas cars in general. No coal/oil plants, replace with wind and solar.  ETC.  It will save a hell alot more of our planet than staying the course.

Also boats exist.

You're banking the economy -- which is still energy dependent -- on IF Biden's Green New Deal works?

Name a state, or a city, that's using these Green New Deal energy ideas now and doing fine.

Why use the entire nation as a laboratory for unproven schemes?  The Green New Deal itself is an economic blueprint for Socialism, NOT fixing Climate Change.  We proved this many times in older threads.  If everything in the Paris Accord Scam and the Green New Deal were implemented, we'd still be facing the same doom and gloom Climate Change disasters being predicted.

Might as well retrain myself to become a Cat Herder ....  It sounds easier than educating Millennials.

Boats (actually ships) exist, but the cost to transport to a port, prepare for shipping, load it, ship it, unload it, and transport to the destination is going to be much more than the cost to simply load it, truck it, and unload it.  That cost gets paid by the consumers.

The other 49 states wouldn't let it happen, nor a decent chunk of texas itself.  California tried this too I believe.

As you know only Texas and Hawaii were nations at one time. Texas a republic and
Hawaii a Monarchy.  None of the other states had that status.
Of all the states joining the Union Texas and Hawaii have the best
argument for leaving.  Kind of like divorce. I came into this contract
voluntarily and I can leave that way.
I left open the possibility of The big island
breaking free from Democrat Oahu and being a Texas county.
Given the Schiff sandwich Honolulu and mainland Democrats are trying to feed us.
That is not all that crazy.
You ever counted the number of private aircraft
at the Kona airport around Christmas and New years?

Time to get over the annexation of Hawaii.  Its over, you guys lost.

Lost in the sense, we are illegally occupied, which Hawaiians like myself will never ever let anyone living in Hawaii forget.

Legal or not, that's how it is.

I am so glad you said that for all to see.   

America treats its own subjects and occupied nations exactly like an empire, plain and simple: discard of the rights of man and ultrawealthy owns everything.  This is important, by-the-way, because the faster you get an empire to unmask itself, the quicker you hasten its demise domestically and internationally.   

Enjoy these days, for the imperial party will evaporate much sooner than you think.   

SNIP

Cows, pigs, guns, and 4WD trucks.

Texas!  The home of pearl snaps and brodozers. . .

Lost in the sense, we are illegally occupied, which Hawaiians like myself will never ever let anyone living in Hawaii forget.

I am so glad you said that for all to see.   

America treats its own subjects and occupied nations exactly like an empire, plain and simple: discard of the rights of man and ultrawealthy owns everything.  This is important, by-the-way, because the faster you get an empire to unmask itself, the quicker you hasten its demise domestically and internationally.   

Enjoy these days, for the imperial party will evaporate much sooner than you think.   

Every country including Hawaiians are guilty of being an empire.  No land was gained and continued to own without someone else fighting over it.  There are losers and winners.