Poll

If you had the chance right now, would you take a covid vaccine shot?

yes
25.9%
no
74.1%
Total Members Voted
27

Voting closed: February 28, 2021, 10:10:49 AM

Would You Take The Vaccine? yes-no? (Read 2942 times)

QUIETShooter

Re: Would You Take The Vaccine? yes-no?
« Reply #60 on: March 31, 2021, 11:07:54 AM »
I'm retired so yeah, I would.  If I was still working I would be a bit more eager to get the shot.  Right now I'm more meh.....all I do is stay home and once a week go grocery shopping.  I no go no place.

I tell my wife to get the shot as soon as she is eligible.  She is still working so I want her to get it.

Just wanted to update my stance on the "meh" as far as taking the vaccine.  Still meh. 


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Eventually I'll get a vaccination. Just not yet. It was offered to me months ago.
Several reasons why I turned down the offer.
1. Too new
2. Newer improved vaccines are still being rolled out
3. Not very active, socially.
4. Not planning to travel anywhere.

So basically, everyone has to weigh their particular risks and needs.
I do take an annual flu shot and I just got a shingles vaccine...ie. I'm not an anti-vaxxer

Your reasons are the same as mine.  On reason #4 I do plan to travel eventually.  After I retired I plan to visit places like Japan, Okinawa, Korea, Alaska, etc.  But not a good time right now.

I was a Vegas junkie prior to this covid BS.  Used to go at least 2-3 times a year.  I have no desire right now not so much because of the reports of people not following safety protocols.  It's more because there are fewer table games and what few they have has plexi-glass all over the fuckin place and the places to eat is few and far in-between.

And not all casinos and hotels are open and some if not all are not 24/7.  I'll wait.  No biggie.

If "they" come my house to give me the vaccine I would take it in a blink.  Otherwise, ahhh....when-eva.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

changemyoil66

Re: Would You Take The Vaccine? yes-no?
« Reply #61 on: March 31, 2021, 11:27:15 AM »
Just wanted to update my stance on the "meh" as far as taking the vaccine.  Still meh. 


Your reasons are the same as mine.  On reason #4 I do plan to travel eventually.  After I retired I plan to visit places like Japan, Okinawa, Korea, Alaska, etc.  But not a good time right now.

I was a Vegas junkie prior to this covid BS.  Used to go at least 2-3 times a year.  I have no desire right now not so much because of the reports of people not following safety protocols.  It's more because there are fewer table games and what few they have has plexi-glass all over the fuckin place and the places to eat is few and far in-between.

And not all casinos and hotels are open and some if not all are not 24/7.  I'll wait.  No biggie.

If "they" come my house to give me the vaccine I would take it in a blink.  Otherwise, ahhh....when-eva.

If you have your NV CCW, they no longer do walks ins. You have to make an appt to schedule a walk in.  Right now the Metro has nothing available.

I follow YT on people gambling and I don't see any staff wiping machines in between users. Understandable not wiping chips and cards, but the machines can be done on a regular basis.  So gotta remember not to rub eyes or dig nose while playing. Gotta purell right after usage is done. Only 2 buffets on the strip are open. 1 is Wicked Spoon (Cosmo). IDK the other one.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Would You Take The Vaccine? yes-no?
« Reply #62 on: March 31, 2021, 11:34:18 AM »
I was fortunate enough to get the vaccine.  After completing both doses, i am on the mainland for a while, hunting turkeys and visiting family and friends.  The vaccine is like the golden ticket!  Yes, its possible I could still get infected .01% of vaccinated folks have) but highly highly unlikely it would be a serious case requiring hospitalization. So  I am surprised that only about a quarter of the poll respondents in this survey indicated they would get the vaccine.  Its a shame that this has been politicized and people are immune to facts, science and information.

My brother is a doctor here on the mainland. He gets death threats every day now, just for being a doctor.  Again, anybody that works with science or has an education seems to be a target of hatred, driven by politics and assumptions of some people.  Hard to understand.

You have to factor in that this poll was put up over a month ago.  Not much data was available on the side effects, risks or availability of the vaccine back then.  A lot has happened in the last 40 days.

Now that you know (and trust) that 0.01% of vaccinated people might contract the virus anyway, you're able to argue that point.  That data point didn't exist in mid-February.

Also, many people who opt out don't have a job, don't travel regularly by air, and/or don't care if they can't go to picnics and soccer games.  Not everyone lives the same lifestyle or has the same family  & friend situation.

It's easy to judge others when you assume everyone has the same situation and priorities as you.  Not everyone does.
Surely Not Everybody Was Kung Fu Fighting.

passivekinetic

Re: Would You Take The Vaccine? yes-no?
« Reply #63 on: April 09, 2021, 12:57:01 PM »
What do you guys think of this?

Nutjob? Retired and then went nuts from boredom?

Dr. Michael Yeadon, Pfizer’s former Vice President and Chief Scientist for Allergy & Respiratory who spent 32 years in the industry leading new medicines research and retired from the pharmaceutical giant with “the most senior research position” in his field, speaks-out about what he calls the coming carnage.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-government-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death

https://headlineswithavoice.com/2021/04/07/pfizers-former-vice-president-sounds-multiple-alarms/

"The sheep fear sheepdogs, because they fail to see the wolves."
- Anonymous

changemyoil66

Re: Would You Take The Vaccine? yes-no?
« Reply #64 on: April 09, 2021, 01:25:34 PM »
What do you guys think of this?

Nutjob? Retired and then went nuts from boredom?

Dr. Michael Yeadon, Pfizer’s former Vice President and Chief Scientist for Allergy & Respiratory who spent 32 years in the industry leading new medicines research and retired from the pharmaceutical giant with “the most senior research position” in his field, speaks-out about what he calls the coming carnage.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-government-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death

https://headlineswithavoice.com/2021/04/07/pfizers-former-vice-president-sounds-multiple-alarms/

That's the problem with this virus.  For every Dr. or like authority figure that says the vaxx is safe, there are another who says the opposite with the same credentials.  So in the end, it's a personal or business call why to take it or why not.

If I was 60+ I would take it.  I had a good life and got nothing to lose at that age.  But since I'm much younger than that, I'm hesitant.  There are no long term studies yet because it's so new.

omnigun

Re: Would You Take The Vaccine? yes-no?
« Reply #65 on: April 09, 2021, 02:30:02 PM »
That's the problem with this virus. For every Dr. or like authority figure that says the vaxx is safe, there are another who says the opposite with the same credentials.  So in the end, it's a personal or business call why to take it or why not.

If I was 60+ I would take it.  I had a good life and got nothing to lose at that age.  But since I'm much younger than that, I'm hesitant.  There are no long term studies yet because it's so new.

I believe this statement is misleading.  A large majority of Doctors say its safe.  A tiny minority says its not.

omnigun

Re: Would You Take The Vaccine? yes-no?
« Reply #66 on: April 09, 2021, 02:31:41 PM »
What do you guys think of this?

Nutjob? Retired and then went nuts from boredom?

Dr. Michael Yeadon, Pfizer’s former Vice President and Chief Scientist for Allergy & Respiratory who spent 32 years in the industry leading new medicines research and retired from the pharmaceutical giant with “the most senior research position” in his field, speaks-out about what he calls the coming carnage.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-government-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death

https://headlineswithavoice.com/2021/04/07/pfizers-former-vice-president-sounds-multiple-alarms/

People like him are the bad apples of doctors and give a bad name to other doctors.  Much like the bad apple police officers.

passivekinetic

Re: Would You Take The Vaccine? yes-no?
« Reply #67 on: April 11, 2021, 08:04:50 AM »
I think this part of what he says can be easily refuted, if it was false.

If not, then that he said makes sense, why are they lying?

Quote
“If I can show you that one major thing that governments around the world are telling the people is a lie, you should take my 32 years of experienced opinion that says, most of it, if not all of it, is a lie.

“The most different variant is only 0.3% different from the original sequence as emailed out of Wuhan in … January 2020. 0.3% [is] the one [variant] that is the most different on the planet so far. And now another way of saying it is, ‘all of the variants are not less than 99.7% identical to each other.’

“Now, you might be thinking, ‘hmm, .3%, is that enough [to escape immunity and become more dangerous]?’ The answer is no. Get away, ya know, get out of here …

“The human immune system is a thing of wonder. What it does is when it faces a new pathogen like this, you’ve got professional cells, they’re called professional antigen-presenting cells —they’re kind of rough tough things that tend not to succumb to viruses. And their job is to grab foreign things in the near environment and tear them limb from limb [inside the cell]. They really cut them up into hundreds of pieces. And then they present these pieces on the surfaces of their cell to other bits of your immune system, and amazingly, because of the variability that God and nature gave you, huge variability to recognize foreign things, and your body ends up using 15 to 20 different specific motifs that it spots about this virus. They’re called epitopes, basically they’re just like little photographs of the details about this virus. That’s what they do. And that is what is called your repertoire, your immune repertoire is like 20 different accurate photographs, close-ups, of different bits of this virus.

“Now, if a tiny piece of the virus changes, like the .3% I’ve just described, if you are reinfected by that variant, your professional cells tear into that virus and cut it into pieces, present them again, and lo and behold, most of the pieces that you have already seen and recognized, are still there in the variants.

“There is absolutely no chance that all of them will fail to be recognized and that is what is required for immune escape, to escape your immunity. It must present to you as a new pathogen. It must be sufficiently different that, when it is cut up by your professional checker cells, it won’t find mostly the same thing it has seen before. And that is just absurdly impossible when you have only varied .3%, so it is 99.7% (similar).

You can go and check that by looking at papers by a person called Alison Tarke. There is also Shane Crotty, and all of the other co-authors.

“And before them, coming from my theoretical understanding of multi-locus immunity, which is what I just badly tried to describe, to what actually happens … If your [immune system] is presented with something that contains even half of those similar pieces, there is no way your body will say, ‘that’s a new pathogen.’

“And, so, the idea that 0.3% could even have a chance of getting around immunity is just a lie. It’s not [even] like an opinion difference.

“I don’t think 3% would be enough. That’s 10 times more variation than has occurred in 16 months [with this virus]. I don’t even think 30% difference would be enough. So, I’m saying that 100 times more variation than has actually happened, would still leave me putting a big bet on the human immune system not being fooled that these are new pathogens.

“I’ve chatted this over with several professors of immunology and they agreed with me, it’s like, ‘why are you asking me this?’

“So, I think that what I’ve just said is that governments and their advisors in multiple countries are lying about variants. That’s a massive thing! You should check it out. Your readers should check it out. If it’s true, don’t you think it’s terrifying?! It was when I realized it.
"The sheep fear sheepdogs, because they fail to see the wolves."
- Anonymous

MauiAxis

Re: Would You Take The Vaccine? yes-no?
« Reply #68 on: April 12, 2021, 01:02:27 PM »
Humans have 99% the same dna as chimpanzees. Is that 1% difference important?  You be the judge.