"that's like telling a lawyer that there's not gonna be lawyers anymore, so you go be a dentist"

so did you take LSAT? and then John Kerry did this and told you be dentist?

It's easy to tell other people to "get a job" doing something they have no skills or training in.

It's not so easy to tell people doing the hiring to give a software programming job to a pipe fitter or construction worker.

The elitists think all workers are interchangeable, as if we are all just ditch diggers.  No special training or years of experience required to get those $100K+/year professional salaries.

I really feel for the guy and all the rest like him.
I'm not going to explain to him about if you vote for
Democrats and this is what you'll get.
This Green shit is all political,  there is no
rational basis for what they are doing.

I cringe when I hear "learn to code".
I'm a dinosaur and know coding from Micro-code to Java.
It isn't that easy and in just a few years you won't
need many people to program anyway. 
It will be automated.

Historically, we all know how this ends.
Don't give up your guns.

I really feel for the guy and all the rest like him.
I'm not going to explain to him about if you vote for
Democrats and this is what you'll get.
This Green shit is all political,  there is no
rational basis for what they are doing.

I cringe when I hear "learn to code".
I'm a dinosaur and know coding from Micro-code to Java.
It isn't that easy and in just a few years you won't
need many people to program anyway. 
It will be automated.

Historically, we all know how this ends.
Don't give up your guns.

If you check out the Microsoft Visual programming tools, the process is basically automated.  You drag and drop icons for the resources and processes to apply, select the files, database links and constants you want to use, and the tool creates the program/module/code for you.  The skill comes in when you start applying and combining libraries of procedures together.  That's where system and program design is needed.  You need to know what CAN be done as well as the best practices for accomplishing the objectives.

4th gen programming removes the programmer from the code in most respects, creating an environment of "building blocks" consisting of code modules.  All you need to learn is what pieces to use and how to use them.  As I stated, there are tools to make that process graphical -- no coding required.

Systems Engineers, system designers and system level programmers get paid much more than "coders."

It's easy to tell other people to "get a job" doing something they have no skills or training in.

It's not so easy to tell people doing the hiring to give a software programming job to a pipe fitter or construction worker.

The elitists think all workers are interchangeable, as if we are all just ditch diggers.  No special training or years of experience required to get those $100K+/year professional salaries.

Telling all those truck drivers and transportation guys to get a job doing something they have no skills or training in.  When the pipeline is finished. Try be a bit less hypocritical. 

Telling all those truck drivers and transportation guys to get a job doing something they not used to.   When the pipeline is finished. Try be a bit less hypocritical.

are those sentences in English?

Telling all those truck drivers and transportation guys to get a job doing something they have no skills or training in.  When the pipeline is finished. Try be a bit less hypocritical.

#Fakenews

The only real competition for transporting crude oil is between rail, ship and pipeline. Seems like trucks being used to transport crude is VERY limited and rarely used. “This method is typically utilized only when wellhead locations are not accessible by pipeline or rail networks, or for short distances during final-mile segments of the movement.” 

https://www.breakthroughfuel.com/blog/oil-in-motion-visibility-into-crude-oil-transportation/

#Fakenews

The only real competition for transporting crude oil is between rail, ship and pipeline. Seems like trucks being used to transport crude is VERY limited and rarely used. “This method is typically utilized only when wellhead locations are not accessible by pipeline or rail networks, or for short distances during final-mile segments of the movement.” 

https://www.breakthroughfuel.com/blog/oil-in-motion-visibility-into-crude-oil-transportation/

And it was Biden and Kerry who told the pipeline workers they can learn to code, not me.

Just keeping the facts in perspective.

Maybe OG can send an email to all the pipeline workers telling them what wonderful job opportunities they have at their feet while he suckles at the teat of the taxpayers.

And it was Biden and Kerry who told the pipeline workers they can learn to code, not me.

Just keeping the facts in perspective.

Maybe OG can send an email to all the pipeline workers telling them what wonderful job opportunities they have at their feet while he suckles at the teat of the taxpayers.

And he is telling you not to be hypocritical.     

This is what he is going to continue to get if he keeps quoting me.

If you check out the Microsoft Visual programming tools, the process is basically automated.  You drag and drop icons for the resources and processes to apply, select the files, database links and constants you want to use, and the tool creates the program/module/code for you.  The skill comes in when you start applying and combining libraries of procedures together.  That's where system and program design is needed.  You need to know what CAN be done as well as the best practices for accomplishing the objectives.

4th gen programming removes the programmer from the code in most respects, creating an environment of "building blocks" consisting of code modules.  All you need to learn is what pieces to use and how to use them.  As I stated, there are tools to make that process graphical -- no coding required.

Systems Engineers, system designers and system level programmers get paid much more than "coders."

I am a Systems Engineer, System designer, and a System level Programmer.
My favorites are "real time" design and systems integration. 
I left out the necessity of software design as most people
think all you do is "code". 
In many ways being a computer science type is boring
dull work.
I'm also  an Electronics engineer so I have done the hardware side as well.
I prefer VHDL tools for modeling, development, validation, and execution.
Contract out the fabrication part.

I assume your point is you just can't take a worker and plug them in
where it takes years of formal education, topical, schooling,
and practical experience to be worthy of a decent paycheck.

But they have all the necessary info that makes them right about everything.

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I am a Systems Engineer, System designer, and a System level Programmer.
My favorites are "real time" design and systems integration. 
I left out the necessity of software design as most people
think all you do is "code". 
In many ways being a computer science type is boring
dull work.
I'm also  an Electronics engineer so I have done the hardware side as well.
I prefer VHDL tools for modeling, development, validation, and execution.
Contract out the fabrication part.

I assume your point is you just can't take a worker and plug them in
where it takes years of formal education, topical, schooling,
and practical experience to be worthy of a decent paycheck.

In a nutshell.  Starting out at the bottom rung of a career ladder won't pay the mortgage or bills for someone with decades of seniority in another field.