RNs can perform abortions in Hawaii (Read 3159 times)

ren

RNs can perform abortions in Hawaii
« on: April 12, 2021, 04:07:27 PM »
https://www.khon2.com/local-news/gov-david-ige-to-sign-bill-allowing-advanced-practice-registered-nurses-to-perform-abortions/

“It really will make life a lot better for folks on the neighbor islands who find that they need abortion services,” said Sen. Rosalyn Baker, Chair of Senate Committee on Commerce and Consumer Protection.
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groveler

Re: RNs can perform abortions in Hawaii
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2021, 04:16:32 PM »
So now Nurses are allowed to use a Vacuum cleaner.
Hawaii Democrats never cease to amaze me.

omnigun

Re: RNs can perform abortions in Hawaii
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2021, 04:30:02 PM »
Nice!!!

More access to abortions.  Great law. 

mrgaf

Re: RNs can perform abortions in Hawaii
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2021, 07:13:02 PM »
Pretty soon garbage men will be able to do dentistry.... what a fucked up place...... :grrr:
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RSN172

Re: RNs can perform abortions in Hawaii
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2021, 07:47:44 PM »
I'm waiting for the day when an arborist (like myself), can do amputations. 
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omnigun

Re: RNs can perform abortions in Hawaii
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2021, 07:48:52 PM »
Pretty soon garbage men will be able to do dentistry.... what a fucked up place...... :grrr:

Not the same, registered nurses are very similar to doctors they can even prescribe medications.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2021, 09:12:01 PM by omnigun »

omnigun

Re: RNs can perform abortions in Hawaii
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2021, 07:49:35 PM »
Too bad access wasn’t as easy when you were in the oven.....darn! :thumbsup:

It was,  though I'm a wanted and healthy pregnancy.  So it would not be used.   

macsak

Re: RNs can perform abortions in Hawaii
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2021, 08:27:03 PM »
Not the same, registered nurses are very similar to doctors they can even proscribe medications.

proscribe
[prōˈskrīb]
VERB
forbid, especially by law.
"strikes remained proscribed in the armed forces"
synonyms:
forbid · prohibit · ban · bar · disallow · rule out · embargo · veto · make illegal · interdict · outlaw · taboo
denounce or condemn.
"certain practices that the Catholic Church proscribed, such as polygyny"
synonyms:
condemn · denounce · attack · criticize · censure · denigrate · damn · reject
historical
outlaw (someone).
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omnigun

Re: RNs can perform abortions in Hawaii
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2021, 09:12:14 PM »
proscribe
[prōˈskrīb]
VERB
forbid, especially by law.
"strikes remained proscribed in the armed forces"
synonyms:
forbid · prohibit · ban · bar · disallow · rule out · embargo · veto · make illegal · interdict · outlaw · taboo
denounce or condemn.
"certain practices that the Catholic Church proscribed, such as polygyny"
synonyms:
condemn · denounce · attack · criticize · censure · denigrate · damn · reject
historical
outlaw (someone).
synonyms:
outlaw · boycott · black · blackball · exclude · ostracize · exile · expel · expatriate · evict · deport · excommunicate
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macsak

Re: RNs can perform abortions in Hawaii
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2021, 09:14:35 PM »
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fixed spelling

then you should fix your googler too
there are no US jurisdictions where registered nurses can prescribe (or proscribe) medications.,.

drck1000

Re: RNs can perform abortions in Hawaii
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2021, 09:17:08 PM »
Not the same, registered nurses are very similar to doctors they can even prescribe medications.
Uh, no. Think you meant NP...

macsak

Re: RNs can perform abortions in Hawaii
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2021, 09:19:20 PM »
Uh, no. Think you meant NP...

ah, man
don't correct his "alternative facts"

omnigun

Re: RNs can perform abortions in Hawaii
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2021, 09:51:44 PM »
then you should fix your googler too
there are no US jurisdictions where registered nurses can prescribe (or proscribe) medications.,.

Ah I made a mistake, sorry.  I mixed up them with Nurse practitioners.

ren

Re: RNs can perform abortions in Hawaii
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2021, 11:29:14 AM »
word salad. Cognitive decline?
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changemyoil66

Re: RNs can perform abortions in Hawaii
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2021, 11:29:25 AM »
So will the cost go down cause generally Rn's make less than Dr.'s right?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: RNs can perform abortions in Hawaii
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2021, 12:56:59 PM »
So will the cost go down cause generally Rn's make less than Dr.'s right?

If the quality of care is the same as the doctors', then the cost should remain the same.  Insurance pays based on a common and reasonable cost, not the salary of the person performing the service.

If, however, the doctor makes more because the quality of his/her services are better, then it's a problem that less qualified nurses are being allowed to do the procedures.

This is an example of the trade-off we would get under a single-payer, government-run healthcare system.  The managers decide how much they are willing to pay, and the providers are faced with trying to provide services at those cost points which might involve seeking out lower quality sources of care.

You can't complain about the price, then turn around and complain about the quality when your cost is lower.  Good champaign at beer prices doesn't exist.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: RNs can perform abortions in Hawaii
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2021, 02:55:27 PM »
So will the cost go down cause generally Rn's make less than Dr.'s right?

Hopefully.  Also accessibility because clinics do not need doctors on call or inhouse at all hours.